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Battery Hooked Up Wrong -- How to change the 120-amp fuse

I did my biggest screw up today I went to hook up a new battery and didn't notice the terminals were opposite of the old one. I hooked up one and as soon as I touched the other terminal it sparked and the horn honked. I straightened it out but now the car won't start. I checked all the fuses and found one blown. Changed it still no good. What should I check now



EDIT: To all who come to this thread needing the fuse how to, it is on page 2. It is also on a gen 6 Camry 2009 le.

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I did my biggest screw up today I went to hook up a new battery and didn't notice the terminals were opposite of the old one. I hooked up one and as soon as I touched the other terminal it sparked and the horn honked. I straightened it out but now the car won't start. I checked all the fuses and found one blown. Changed it still no good. What should I check now
Did you check the fuses under the dash, then there is the 120 amp fuse under the hood. A real PITA to remove...


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Where under the dash-- I will get out the book. This is a gen 6 by the way-- where is the 120 amp, I checked the fuse and relay box didn't see any thing that big unless it is the blue bars in this pic, How do you remove these? A tug with some pliers didn't do anything.


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Under the dash on the left side, near the kick panel
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Where under the dash-- I will get out the book. This is a gen 6 by the way-- where is the 120 amp, I checked the fuse and relay box didn't see any thing that big unless it is the blue bars in this pic, How do you remove these? A tug with some pliers didn't do anything.

Look under the dash at the coin holder, you will have to lay on your back.
The 120 amp fuse is the 82620-33030 numbered one. The car will start with this fuse open, but you will have weird symptoms on the dash and the battery will not be charge as the alternator isn't connected to the battery.


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Where under the dash-- I will get out the book. This is a gen 6 by the way-- where is the 120 amp, I checked the fuse and relay box didn't see any thing that big unless it is the blue bars in this pic, How do you remove these? A tug with some pliers didn't do anything.

Most of the time if you short out the battery (in your case reverse battery installation, in my case alternator positive lead to oil dipstick ) it will blow the 120 A alternator fuse. My car was completely dead when I did it, no lights, nothing. The big 120 A/100 A fuses are bolted into the fuse box. You will need to disassemble the fuse box to take them out and replace them.

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You can see into these big fuses and they don't appear blown. I will check under the dash. It is a bad day for cars for me. I think the wifes Malibu just had a fuel pump die.
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My father-in-law recently bought a Hyundai Genesis that has an internal switch preventing reverse polarity hookups from damaging the electronics. Hopefully more manufacturers will do this to prevent what is a very common mistake.

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You can see into these big fuses and they don't appear blown. I will check under the dash. It is a bad day for cars for me. I think the wifes Malibu just had a fuel pump die.
Sorry to hear that. Hopefully it's just the mega-fuse. Update us as to what you found.
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Upon further inspection with a flashlight at multiple angles the 33030 does have the first junction blown. I changed a 10 amp fuse It was one of the ignition fuses under the dash. It will now start with my remote start but not with the key. I have dome lights and dash lights. No headlights etc, no power seats or ac, and the car won't go into gear. The abs lights are on the tpms light is on and the outside temp says E.

All the parts stores are already closed and wally world doesn't carry the right type of fuse. I hope the parts houses do as they are a mini size but the pins are very short and not the same as the standard mini fuses such as those under the hood. I am hoping I got away with just a bunch of blown fuses but we will see tomorrow.

I also have the wife's Malibu to trouble shoot, when it rains it pours. I found a bad relay in it, it was keeping the parking lights on all the time. It still wont start though. It will turn over and occasionally cough but not go. I think it is the fuel pump, If when it finally cools off and then it starts that will be an indication to me of the fuel pump. It has a clean fuel filter.
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My father-in-law recently bought a Hyundai Genesis that has an internal switch preventing reverse polarity hookups from damaging the electronics. Hopefully more manufacturers will do this to prevent what is a very common mistake.
That is what I was hoping Toyota did on this car seems like it would be an easy thing to engineer and add at the factory.
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That is what I was hoping Toyota did on this car seems like it would be an easy thing to engineer and add at the factory.
Agreed. I'd rather have these kinds of highly practical things added by the manufacturer instead of stupid sh*t like an extra set of cupholders when a 1st or 2nd row already has one or two sets....stoopid stuff like that.... Hope you get this issue fixed soon....

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Upon further inspection with a flashlight at multiple angles the 33030 does have the first junction blown. I changed a 10 amp fuse It was one of the ignition fuses under the dash. It will now start with my remote start but not with the key. I have dome lights and dash lights. No headlights etc, no power seats or ac, and the car won't go into gear. The abs lights are on the tpms light is on and the outside temp says E.

All the parts stores are already closed and wally world doesn't carry the right type of fuse. I hope the parts houses do as they are a mini size but the pins are very short and not the same as the standard mini fuses such as those under the hood. I am hoping I got away with just a bunch of blown fuses but we will see tomorrow.

I also have the wife's Malibu to trouble shoot, when it rains it pours. I found a bad relay in it, it was keeping the parking lights on all the time. It still wont start though. It will turn over and occasionally cough but not go. I think it is the fuel pump, If when it finally cools off and then it starts that will be an indication to me of the fuel pump. It has a clean fuel filter.
This 120 amp fuse is at the top of expanding layers of fusses and relays and more fuses.

As in;
These fuses will not have any power from the battery;
ABS 1 & 2
RR DEF
HTR
RDI FAN
FAN MAIN
Door #2
FR FOG
OBD
AM1
P/SEAT
POWER
S/ROOF
A/C
STOP

High current contacts battery power is absent on these relays also;
ACC
IG1
Tail
POWER

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You have been very helpful Luna2 and I appreciate it. I have my little girl with me today so I will have to wait until later when her mom gets home to really tear into it. I am afraid those little fuses under the dash might be a dealer only fuse as a couple of the parts houses here don't have them. I have a couple more to try and I am calling the dealer right now to see about that big bar fuse.
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I am afraid those little fuses under the dash might be a dealer only fuse as a couple of the parts houses here don't have them.
If your talking about these fuses

they are dealer only. Autozone, advance auto, walmart, etc none of them carried that tiny fuse. Though my dealer didn't charge me for new ones (which is always a plus), you might get lucky.

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