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Brake Recommendations..and stuff

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#1 · (Edited by Moderator)
My brakes feel like crap and grind and squeak whenever they want to. The shop I went to months and months ago probably used cheap crapI didn’t bother to check. Anyone have a good recommendations they can vouch for? I drive pizza delivery and have bad driving habits so I need something that can hold up to hard use. Checking history some people say OEM is the way to go but that Power Stop bundle isn’t looking too bad rn…
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#7 ·
If you want something stronger than the Akebono ProAct, for your pizza delivery, then try the semi-met and ceramic "Hybrid" pads Raybestos EHT Element 3 $27.79 fronts. (I used the 1.8L in the search). PowerStop has drum shoes, $13.12.

For drums and rotors check out the black or silver (zinc) coated ones. If you need brake lube, only use a JIS K2228 approved grease like CRC Silaramic, or the caliper pins can gradually seize. This Silicone Extreme will work too:



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#8 ·
If you want something stronger than the Akebono ProAct, for your pizza delivery, then try the semi-met and ceramic "Hybrid" pads Raybestos EHT Element 3 $27.79 fronts. (I used the 1.8L in the search). PowerStop has drum shoes, $13.12.

For drums and rotors check out the black or silver (zinc) coated ones. If you need brake lube, only use a JIS K2228 approved grease like CRC Silaramic, or the caliper pins can gradually seize. This Silicone Extreme will work too:



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Honestly, I would take any advice I can get from you guys because this is something I never bothered to do more research about.
 
#9 · (Edited)
For example:

1997 TOYOTA COROLLA 1.8L L4

RAYBESTOS EHT562H Element3 Hybrid Technology Front $27.79
POWER STOP B551 Bonded Info Rear $13.12
Drum CENTRIC 12244032 Rear $27.79 EACH x2 $55.58
Drum Brake Hardware Kit CENTRIC 11844016 $6.49
Rotor CENTRIC 12044092 Semi-Coated $33.79 EACH $67.58
Caliper Slide Pin CARLSON 14144 Front $5.57 x2 $11.14
Caliper Slide Pin Boot / Bushing CARLSON 16078 $8.60
PERMATEX 24129 Silicone Ceramic Extreme Brake Parts Lubricant; 0.5 oz. tube Info $2.29
Subtotal $192.59
 
#12 ·
I had a set of power stop kit. Don’t remember the exact part number. They didn’t last more than 30k before they warped. It’s possible that I didn’t bed them properly, but still paid a lot of money for it to fall on its face.

Centric rotors is what I use for now.
 
#14 ·
i bought the car last May and since then I’ve put 30,000 miles. I think I replaced the brakes back in like May. Don’t remember the mileage though they just started squeaking and grinding two months after I had them.
I had a set of power stop kit. Don’t remember the exact part number. They didn’t last more than 30k before they warped. It’s possible that I didn’t bed them properly, but still paid a lot of money for it to fall on its face.

Centric rotors is what I use for now.
i’m guessing a good brake setup should last more than 30,000 miles? Glad I haven’t bought anything yet you guys help out a lot.
Power stop are junk with good marketing. Pass. Centric, Raybestos, Stoptech, Akebono, Bosch, Advics, Wagner even (not my favorite). OE is likely Akebono or it was when the car was made. Raybestos EHT are great pads. Hawk probably still makes the HPS for the Corolla pad shape as well, those might be worth a look. Stoptech Sport might also be worth it. If you want a mild upgrade I believe 4th or 5th gen Celica 2 piston calipers are a bolt on affair.
I found a pair of Akebonos for 63 bucks on Amazon and they’re in my cart. I think my issues now are only finding what’s good for the rear, a replacement for the rotors, and now that you brought it up, replacing the calipers.

John suggested the Centrics, and I’m guessing if they’re all kind of alike I think there’s no real harm in going through with them.
 
#13 ·
Power stop are junk with good marketing. Pass. Centric, Raybestos, Stoptech, Akebono, Bosch, Advics, Wagner even (not my favorite). OE is likely Akebono or it was when the car was made. Raybestos EHT are great pads. Hawk probably still makes the HPS for the Corolla pad shape as well, those might be worth a look. Stoptech Sport might also be worth it. If you want a mild upgrade I believe 4th or 5th gen Celica 2 piston calipers are a bolt on affair.
 
#16 · (Edited)
Sure, if you prefer Brembo. I mean, nobody can blame Brembo being like other aftermarket cheap parts that fail in a few months. ;) It's obviously a VERY reputable brand. And if they started squealing two months after you put them on, then you know it's not Brembo to blame.

I've used Brembo rotors before, they were made in Brazil. At least for me I didn't see any difference than the el-cheapo Centric C-Tek (non-coated ones) that I use. But I do suggest coated ones for better rust resistance.

1997 TOYOTA COROLLA 1.8L L4
Brake Shoe BOSCH BS597 Bonded Rear; 7.87 X 1.18" $21.89
Drum BREMBO 14581510 Rear $33.79 x2 $67.58
Drum Brake Hardware Kit CENTRIC 11844016 $6.49
Rotor BREMBO 09573611 Premium UV Coated; Sold Individually Front $46.79 x2 $93.58
Brake pads BREMBO P83034N NAO Ceramic Front $51.79
Caliper Slide Pin CARLSON 14144 Front $5.57 x2 $11.14
Caliper Slide Pin Boot / Bushing CARLSON 16078 $8.60
PERMATEX 24129 Silicone Ceramic Extreme Brake Parts Lubricant; 0.5 oz. tube Info $2.29
Subtotal $263.36

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#17 · (Edited)
Just curious, what brand of pads and rotors and drums did you put on back in May? You're right decent parts shouldn't be squeaking if you put them on in May.

If petroleum based brake grease was EVER used on the caliper pins, then those will damage the rubber boots and pin bushings. You'll HAVE TO use the K2228 grease I mentioned and might as well change out the pins and dust boots as I linked in the shopping lists, or they'll likely end up squeaking again.

Take your time and think about the brands and prices, then decide what you want to do. BTW, I see Akebono ProAct ACT562A with hardware kit on rockauto for $47.79 plus shipping.


If you don't need the hardware kit it's $39.79:

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#18 ·
If the Toyota grease is ubobtanium locally this works just as well or better and is compatible with all external rubber brake parts.
I'd also suggest this to put on the backs of pads or pop the shims off and put some under the shims if they're removable.
Using both of those and PROPERLY CLEANING THE BRACKET AND INSTALLING NEW HARDWARE has guaranteed that in my 15 or so years of doing brakes (and other work too) I've only had about 5 come backs for squeal or noise and those were before I started using the above things.

You need to remove the old hardware, file the slots down to clean bare metal, apply brake grease to them, install the new abutment clips, grease the clips where the pads ride, then install the pads. If the backing shims are removable (clipped on not riveted) I like to pop them off and put a thin film of the brake quiet under them then put the shims back on and quickly assemble then apply brakes to compress them down. That layer of rubber smooshed in between the shim and pad seems to really help abate noises, as does having a pad that's not binding on the bracket. I'd also suggest if you're in a salt prone area to every 2-3 years (or every year) pull the wheels and inspect the brakes, pull and grease the slides and make sure the pads are moving freely in the brackets.
 
#19 ·
The problem is probably not your rotors or pads but rather your calipers. Either they need to be cleaned and the slide pins cleaned and greased or you might be better off replacing the calipers with refurbished painted PowerStop calipers. Make sure that your mechanic greases the slide pins. Also, flush your brake fluid and examine if you need new brake lines (could try braided brake lines).
 
#24 ·
Two choices:



1. Stick with OEM



Or



2. AutoZone brand Ceramic brakes... why autozone?? Lifetime warranty!



When the brakes give out have ur mechanic keep em for you... turn into the store and get them replaced for free!



Their rotors are also very good.. I think those are three year warranty. But no fuss warranty experience. Only pay for the labor!
 
#25 ·
My brakes feel like crap and grind and squeak whenever they want to. The shop I went to months and months ago probably used cheap crapI didn’t bother to check. Anyone have a good recommendations they can vouch for? I drive pizza delivery and have bad driving habits so I need something that can hold up to hard use. Checking history some people say OEM is the way to go but that
My brakes feel like crap and grind and squeak whenever they want to. The shop I went to months and months ago probably used cheap crapI didn’t bother to check. Anyone have a good recommendations they can vouch for? I drive pizza delivery and have bad driving habits so I need something that can hold up to hard use. Checking history some people say OEM is the way to go but that Power Stop bundle isn’t looking too bad rn… View attachment 402168
Detroit axle from Amazon, cheap, comes with disc hardware, I am not delivering pizzas, but do find myself standing on the pedal at 80 mph, no squeaks, no shakes.
 
#30 ·
I did my front brakes about 1.5 years ago. I used Akebono brake pads and Centric Premium rotors. Still, almost no wear on the pads.I would recommend them for the front (Akebono, also recommended by Scotty Kilmer). The Centric Premiums are as good as OEM as per reviews. As for the rear drums, I would just go with a kit like Powerstop etc. as they only do about 20% of the braking.