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Coolant leak lower line

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#1 · (Edited)
Hi all,

I am having a coolant leak @ about 1/4 of reservoir tank every few month or so. Here is the history...
  • April 2023, found leak on basic inspection while swapping winter to all season tires. Had a chain store inspect and replace the two pipes (upper/lower and upper) that was worn with I think Gains pipes and screw type pipe clamps. This made sense as I did notice black bits in the coolant previous year that I assume is the coolant lines starting to break down. I did specifically ask if the radiator connector is damaged and they said it was fine.
  • Later 2023, noticed coolant level going down as before, looked around assuming its somewhere else and that original location as fixed.
  • November 2023, noticed same leak at lower line to radiator. Jacked up and see the line is halfway backed out of the radiator connection, loosened, the clamp, and pushed pipe all the way to stop, tightened clamp an extra turn (using 1/4 socket wrench estimate ~10-13 ft/lbs so finger tight). Noticed the pipe was pretty easy to push in vs tight fit. Also see a steady leak/drop of coolant on the bottom plastic cover.
  • Now, still leaking. Haven't been back underneath. Options so far: will not be taking back to this chain store even for warranty as they have struck out and tired spending good money on bad fixes. May take to another place that is doing good work so far or DIY.

Here are some pics.
  • main coolant hose before fix 1of4 backed off from notch.JPG
  • main coolant hose after fix 1of3 up to notch tightened 1 extra turn.JPG
  • main coolant hose after fix 2of3 look for leak here.JPG

Qustions:
  • Do you think it has to do with the aftermarket hose that seems really loose (I did loosen the clamp to push the pipe to the stop notch on the radiator side, very easy to push in, was expecting snug fit instead) or something else? If so, I'll just replace myself with OEM as I have some time over holidays. Or need to tighten hose clamp even tighter...?
  • Parts check: see hose part is Upper, lower, Part Number: 165720P150, Supersession(s): 16572-0P150 is that right?
  • Parts check: Radiator Hose Clamp (Upper, lower) Part Number: 9046639002 Supersession(s): 90466-39002; 90466A0038, is this right?

Your thoughts is always appreciated, Sincerely,
maonca
 

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#2 ·
That pink crust looks like the radiator is leaking from the seam of the lower plenum. Until you remove the fans you can't tell if the leak is from higher. Keep looking up higher to find it. Looking at the bottom where it drips off doesn't help.

Clean all that mess up with soap and a scrub brush if you want to find the leak, then put in some UV dye.

The clamp looks fine; the hose looks ok except for that gash where someone grabbed it with pliers.

a new radiator from RockAuto is ~$100.
 
#8 ·
That pink crust looks like the radiator is leaking from the seam of the lower plenum.
Just had to replace my radiator at 150k for this exact reason! Leaked at just above the lower radiator hose where plastic and aluminum parts meet. Note that aluminum is crimped to plastic everywhere except for this ~2" strech above the lower hose outlet. The plastic part deformed over time and this created a small gap.
 
#3 ·
^ as said above, make sure the radiator isn't the one that's leaking. Whichever shop that worked on that hose with a worm-gear clamp did a poor job.

Just go into the local dealer if one is still open today and give them the VIN number. That will get you the correct hoses and make sure you get new spring-tension clamps. I personally prefer Gates hoses, but one member's recent experience had some minor deviations from factory like an extra rub guard. O'Reilly and NAPA should carry Gates.

Yes, a new radiator may be needed. Get a new radiator cap (I used Stant/Motorad, but some prefer genuine Toyota/Denso) and thermostat (preferred Aisin or from the local dealer).
 
#4 · (Edited)
I didn't notice the crust on the bottom of the radiator plenum although obvious now. Will look at UV dye to confirm, however it certainly does look like a radiator leak. Wow, $600 OEM radiator from dealer, going Rock Auto for sure.

Youtube videos look like a doable DIY for me, will tool up/setup/parts and give it a shot over holidays.

I don't think it is critical time-wise based on the slow leak, however based on your experience, is this a do within a month(s) or so item (giving me more time to do UV analysis) or ASAP because its going to suddenly blow up?

May post additional questions for sure.

Thank you!
maonca
 
#5 ·
Slow leak is not an emergency, so you have time to investigate and get your ducks in a row (parts, tools, procedure, etc). It is a fairly easy diy as the top rail comes unbolted and allows access to everything.

Get some clamp pliers if you go back to the OEM spring clamps as they are a PIA to install without locking open. Replace the thremostat if not done recently, and the radiator cap.

PS make sure you take time to fully bleed all the air out before driving it, as trapped air causes overheating of engine=>blows head gasket.
 
#9 ·
Hi all,

Completed the job today with some thoughts...
- Thanks to Toyota for 10mm everything, didn't have to keep switching sockets.
- Needed 10mm wrench for two lower A/C cooler bolts, luckily had it since socket didn't fit the space.
- Missing a few plastic fasteners for upper and lower covers, replaced from set.
- Missing passenger lower screw for air redirect fairing, found spare.
- Forgot how long it took to bleed the coolant at ~1/2hr for it to start coming out of the bleeder.
- Difficulty and effort is on par with spark plug change on V6.

Here are some pictures of the leak as diagnosed by you all above & new Denso radiator.

Thank you all!
maonca
 

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