Re: {OT}more babes are killed in the US, by their mothers, than in Iraq and Lebanon

On 22 Aug 2006 02:08:23 GMT, "badgolferman"
<REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

>Cathy F., 8/21/2006,9:38:09 PM, wrote:
>
>> Sure, there's emotional turmoil - I have a difficult time imagining
>> that anyone would deny that. On the other side of the coin, how many
>> people's lives have been messed up due to the birth of an unwanted
>> child? How many of those kids themselves are messed up, and/or grew
>> up to be messed up adults?? There are so many scenarios that could
>> be present.... parent(s) want(s) child after all & everything pans
>> out okay, parents don't want child - period - & resent him/her, child
>> born into stable marriage, child born into one-parent home with
>> mother on welfare &/or addicted to drugs, child adopted out to good
>> home, child abused & or neglected, child on streets of inner-city...
>
>According to your logic then if there's a chance someone's life could
>be messed up by the birth of the child then it is okay to kill that
>baby, child, fetus, heavy menstruation, etc. All that matters is
>whether the mother thinks her life or the child's life won't be very
>easy.

I don't get that from what you quoted. Cathy was just making some
observations on the possible outcomes, and also noting that unwanted
children have caused problems at times (possibly very severe
problems).


>
>This is so indicative of liberals, they think they are God and can make
>judgements of how others should be living and that life should be how
>they want it to be.

No, it's actually you religious zealots that make judgements of how
others should be living.

Or did you change your mind about gay and lesbian marriage?

 

Re: {OT}more babes are killed in the US, by their mothers, than in Iraq and Lebanon

On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 23:12:29 GMT, Scott in Florida
<askifyouwant@mindspring.net> wrote:

>
>Have you ever talked to a young woman that has had an abortion? It
>REALLY messes them up. It is a child....whether you libs want to
>admit it or not.

I have known a number of women who had abortions. I don't think it was
an easy decision, but it didn't "mess them up."

>
>If it is only a piece of skin that we can just kill at will....why
>does it mess up people that have abortions?

Well, we could surmise that it's because you anti-abortion people make
it seem more important than it is. Marching around with signs saying
"baby killer" and stuff like that. Trying to tie it in with religion
and saying they'll suffer eternal damnation. Laying a guilt trip on
them. Yeah, you anti-abortionists are all just sweetness and light.

 

Re: {OT}more babes are killed in the US, by their mothers, than in Iraq and Lebanon

On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 21:57:37 GMT, " .dbu," <howard@dynoisadork.com>
wrote:

>>
>> I'm also starting to wonder how many of these right-wingers here live
>> in trailer parks.
>
>I don't. Do you? What is it about trailer parks?


I sure don't live in one. All of _my_ neighbors have teeth.

 

Re: {OT}more babes are killed in the US, by their mothers, than in Iraq and Lebanon

Cathy F., 8/21/2006,11:47:33 PM, wrote:

> From your posts, it appears that neither you nor Scott in FL
> understands what the pro-choice stance is. It is not about
> pro-abortion (I truly doubt that anyone is pro-abortion), it is about
> the right to choose to have a legal abortion

You talk out of the side of your mouth. Maybe you should be a
politician.

Being pro-choice *is* being pro-abortion! The words are different
beause it is more pallatable. There are other choices, such as
adoption, acceptance, hard work, parental help, etc. that don't seem to
be considered by the "abortion on demand" group.

What is your take on partial-birth-abortion? How do "pro-choicers"
justify that sickening procedure?

--
Politicians, like diapers, have to be changed frequently - and for the
very same reason.

 

Re: {OT}more babes are killed in the US, by their mothers, than in Iraq and Lebanon

"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:xn0eq8zlg1n3fkx00b@news.readfreenews.net...
> Scott in Florida, 8/21/2006,10:49:03 PM, wrote:
>
>> > Get this straight in your mushy little brain: no one likes
>> > abortions.
>> >
>> > Cathy
>> >
>> Oh?
>>
>> You don't like abortions?
>>
>> Well we are starting to get you educated, then.
>>
>> There is NO need to kill kids....
>>
>> Good to see you are coming around to the correct way of thinking...
>
> I'm glad to see she is understanding now.

From your posts, it appears that neither you nor Scott in FL understands
what the pro-choice stance is. It is *not* about pro-abortion (I truly
doubt that anyone is pro-abortion), it is about the right to choose to have
a legal abortion.

Cathy

I guess I can go to bed now
> and maybe make more babies...!

 

Re: {OT}more babes are killed in the US, by their mothers, than in Iraq and Lebanon

On 22 Aug 2006 03:01:43 GMT, "badgolferman"
<REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

>Scott in Florida, 8/21/2006,10:49:03 PM, wrote:
>
>> > Get this straight in your mushy little brain: no one likes
>> > abortions.
>> >
>> > Cathy
>> >
>> Oh?
>>
>> You don't like abortions?
>>
>> Well we are starting to get you educated, then.
>>
>> There is NO need to kill kids....
>>
>> Good to see you are coming around to the correct way of thinking...
>
>I'm glad to see she is understanding now. I guess I can go to bed now
>and maybe make more babies...!

Please do...

We teached her stuff tonight.

Nice to see a teacher learning....


--

Scott in Florida

'The Land of the Free Thanks to the Brave'

 

Re: {OT}more babes are killed in the US, by their mothers, than in Iraq and Lebanon

On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 23:00:58 -0400, "Cathy F." <clfr@adelphia.net>
wrote:

>> What I said was perfectly reasonable considering where your argument
>> was leading. Killing a child, baby, fetus, heavy menstruation, etc.
>> just because there's a *chance* of debilitating disease is pure
>> selfishness.
>
>No, I did not say "chance" - I posited a debilitating/fatal illness which
>was (positively) diagnosed during pregnancy. No maybes - a definite deal.
>
>Cathy

There is nothing 'positively diagnosed'.....ever....

You are really losing it here.

Maybe you should hide in the corner...


--

Scott in Florida

'The Land of the Free Thanks to the Brave'

 

Re: {OT}more babes are killed in the US, by their mothers, than in Iraq and Lebanon

On 22 Aug 2006 03:00:02 GMT, "badgolferman"
<REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

>Cathy F., 8/21/2006,10:55:20 PM, wrote:
>
>>
>> "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:xn0eq8z7d1mo8xj008@news.readfreenews.net...
>> > Cathy F., 8/21/2006,10:46:28 PM, wrote:
>> >
>> > > (And, BTW - you just killed the thread by mentioning Hitler - you
>> > > don't know that Usenet "rule"?!)
>> >
>> > Uh no, I don't. What is it?
>>
>> Godwin's Law. People tend to use "Hitler" or Nazi" only when they
>> feel backed into a corner - & so over-reach by invoking one of these
>> terms. Which short-circuits the thread. ;-)
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law
>
>
>Never heard of it before, but I'll keep it in mind.
>
>I certainly didn't feel backed into the corner. I had you on the ropes!
>
>Go back and read the responses, you'll see.

Yup....you had her in a 'rope a dope' for sure...


--

Scott in Florida

'The Land of the Free Thanks to the Brave'

 

Re: {OT}more babes are killed in the US, by their mothers, than in Iraq and Lebanon

Scott in Florida, 8/21/2006,10:49:03 PM, wrote:

> > Get this straight in your mushy little brain: no one likes
> > abortions.
> >
> > Cathy
> >
> Oh?
>
> You don't like abortions?
>
> Well we are starting to get you educated, then.
>
> There is NO need to kill kids....
>
> Good to see you are coming around to the correct way of thinking...

I'm glad to see she is understanding now. I guess I can go to bed now
and maybe make more babies...!

 

Re: {OT}more babes are killed in the US, by their mothers, than in Iraq and Lebanon

On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 22:57:32 -0400, "Cathy F." <clfr@adelphia.net>
wrote:

>
>"Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant@mindspring.net> wrote in message
>news:c7ske25m2lc85gs5023l15qnpfm6n0n51f@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 22:46:28 -0400, "Cathy F." <clfr@adelphia.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:xn0eq8yw21m7srb005@news.readfreenews.net...
>>>> Cathy F., 8/21/2006,10:30:37 PM, wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> > > Sure, there's emotional turmoil - I have a difficult time
>>>>> > > imagining that anyone would deny that. On the other side of the
>>>>> > > coin, how many people's lives have been messed up due to the
>>>>> > > birth of an unwanted child? How many of those kids themselves
>>>>> > > are messed up, and/or grew up to be messed up adults?? There are
>>>>> > > so many scenarios that could be present.... parent(s) want(s)
>>>>> > > child after all & everything pans out okay, parents don't want
>>>>> > > child - period - & resent him/her, child born into stable
>>>>> > > marriage, child born into one-parent home with mother on welfare
>>>>> > > &/or addicted to drugs, child adopted out to good home, child
>>>>> > > abused & or neglected, child on streets of inner-city...
>>>>> >
>>>>> > According to your logic then if there's a chance someone's life
>>>>> > could be messed up by the birth of the child then it is okay to
>>>>> > kill that baby, child, fetus, heavy menstruation, etc. All that
>>>>> > matters is whether the mother thinks her life or the child's life
>>>>> > won't be very easy.
>>>>>
>>>>> How about when tests during pregnancy show that a major
>>>>> defect/illness is present? That will mess up the child's life - if
>>>>> s/he lives beyond birth. Abortion an option, or not?
>>>>
>>>> I would say not. That sure sounds like what Hitler was doing in the
>>>> 30's. Only the beautiful, perfect people have a right to live.
>>>
>>>You're taking it way OTT here - hyperbole time, huh? Don't pull that kind
>>>of "reasoning" crap on me, it doesn't work. I'm not talking about a
>>>'perfect race', & you know it. I'm talking about a debilitating illness,
>>>which has a really lousy prognosis.
>>
>> You are talking about being god....
>>
>> I know god and you ain't god....
>>
>> btw have you ever heard of cures?
>
>Jeez, missed your calling as a scientist or great doctor, to cure the
>nastier afflictions which so far have no cures?

>
>Cathy


Temper Temper....sweetie.....


--

Scott in Florida

'The Land of the Free Thanks to the Brave'

 

Re: {OT}more babes are killed in the US, by their mothers, than in Iraq and Lebanon

"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:xn0eq8zcw1mw5xd009@news.readfreenews.net...
> Cathy F., 8/21/2006,10:46:28 PM, wrote:
>
>> You're taking it way OTT here - hyperbole time, huh? Don't pull that
>> kind of "reasoning" crap on me, it doesn't work. I'm not talking
>> about a 'perfect race', & you know it. I'm talking about a
>> debilitating illness, which has a really lousy prognosis.
>
> I guess it's too difficult for you to spin then.
>
> What I said was perfectly reasonable considering where your argument
> was leading. Killing a child, baby, fetus, heavy menstruation, etc.
> just because there's a *chance* of debilitating disease is pure
> selfishness.

No, I did not say "chance" - I posited a debilitating/fatal illness which
was (positively) diagnosed during pregnancy. No maybes - a definite deal.

Cathy

There are plenty of people who have been told the same
> thing, even us and it never occured. Have you considered that your
> precious science is often wrong and has to reevalute themselves
> constantly? Even they are not so pompous to declare themselves as
> foolproof. The tests that my wife and I were presented offered
> probabilities of disease, not absolutes.

 

Re: {OT}more babes are killed in the US, by their mothers, than in Iraq and Lebanon

Cathy F., 8/21/2006,10:55:20 PM, wrote:

>
> "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:xn0eq8z7d1mo8xj008@news.readfreenews.net...
> > Cathy F., 8/21/2006,10:46:28 PM, wrote:
> >
> > > (And, BTW - you just killed the thread by mentioning Hitler - you
> > > don't know that Usenet "rule"?!)
> >
> > Uh no, I don't. What is it?
>
> Godwin's Law. People tend to use "Hitler" or Nazi" only when they
> feel backed into a corner - & so over-reach by invoking one of these
> terms. Which short-circuits the thread. ;-)
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law


Never heard of it before, but I'll keep it in mind.

I certainly didn't feel backed into the corner. I had you on the ropes!

Go back and read the responses, you'll see.

 

Re: {OT}more babes are killed in the US, by their mothers, than in Iraq and Lebanon

"Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant@mindspring.net> wrote in message
news:c7ske25m2lc85gs5023l15qnpfm6n0n51f@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 22:46:28 -0400, "Cathy F." <clfr@adelphia.net>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:xn0eq8yw21m7srb005@news.readfreenews.net...
>>> Cathy F., 8/21/2006,10:30:37 PM, wrote:
>>>
>>>> > > Sure, there's emotional turmoil - I have a difficult time
>>>> > > imagining that anyone would deny that. On the other side of the
>>>> > > coin, how many people's lives have been messed up due to the
>>>> > > birth of an unwanted child? How many of those kids themselves
>>>> > > are messed up, and/or grew up to be messed up adults?? There are
>>>> > > so many scenarios that could be present.... parent(s) want(s)
>>>> > > child after all & everything pans out okay, parents don't want
>>>> > > child - period - & resent him/her, child born into stable
>>>> > > marriage, child born into one-parent home with mother on welfare
>>>> > > &/or addicted to drugs, child adopted out to good home, child
>>>> > > abused & or neglected, child on streets of inner-city...
>>>> >
>>>> > According to your logic then if there's a chance someone's life
>>>> > could be messed up by the birth of the child then it is okay to
>>>> > kill that baby, child, fetus, heavy menstruation, etc. All that
>>>> > matters is whether the mother thinks her life or the child's life
>>>> > won't be very easy.
>>>>
>>>> How about when tests during pregnancy show that a major
>>>> defect/illness is present? That will mess up the child's life - if
>>>> s/he lives beyond birth. Abortion an option, or not?
>>>
>>> I would say not. That sure sounds like what Hitler was doing in the
>>> 30's. Only the beautiful, perfect people have a right to live.
>>
>>You're taking it way OTT here - hyperbole time, huh? Don't pull that kind
>>of "reasoning" crap on me, it doesn't work. I'm not talking about a
>>'perfect race', & you know it. I'm talking about a debilitating illness,
>>which has a really lousy prognosis.
>
> You are talking about being god....
>
> I know god and you ain't god....
>
> btw have you ever heard of cures?

Jeez, missed your calling as a scientist or great doctor, to cure the
nastier afflictions which so far have no cures?

Cathy

>
> I guess not...
>
>
>>
>>(And, BTW - you just killed the thread by mentioning Hitler - you don't
>>know
>>that Usenet "rule"?!)
>>
>>Cathy
>>
>>
>> While
>>> you're at it you might as well take out the people who develop awful
>>> disabilities during their lifetime. They have nothing to look forward
>>> to the rest of their lives either.
>>
>>
>
> --
>
> Scott in Florida
>
> 'The Land of the Free Thanks to the Brave'

 

Re: {OT}more babes are killed in the US, by their mothers, than in Iraq and Lebanon

Cathy F., 8/21/2006,10:46:28 PM, wrote:

> You're taking it way OTT here - hyperbole time, huh? Don't pull that
> kind of "reasoning" crap on me, it doesn't work. I'm not talking
> about a 'perfect race', & you know it. I'm talking about a
> debilitating illness, which has a really lousy prognosis.

I guess it's too difficult for you to spin then.

What I said was perfectly reasonable considering where your argument
was leading. Killing a child, baby, fetus, heavy menstruation, etc.
just because there's a *chance* of debilitating disease is pure
selfishness. There are plenty of people who have been told the same
thing, even us and it never occured. Have you considered that your
precious science is often wrong and has to reevalute themselves
constantly? Even they are not so pompous to declare themselves as
foolproof. The tests that my wife and I were presented offered
probabilities of disease, not absolutes.

 

Re: {OT}more babes are killed in the US, by their mothers, than in Iraq and Lebanon

"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:xn0eq8z7d1mo8xj008@news.readfreenews.net...
> Cathy F., 8/21/2006,10:46:28 PM, wrote:
>
>> (And, BTW - you just killed the thread by mentioning Hitler - you
>> don't know that Usenet "rule"?!)
>
> Uh no, I don't. What is it?

Godwin's Law. People tend to use "Hitler" or Nazi" only when they feel
backed into a corner - & so over-reach by invoking one of these terms.
Which short-circuits the thread. ;-)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

Cathy

 

Re: {OT}more babes are killed in the US, by their mothers, than in Iraq and Lebanon

On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 22:46:28 -0400, "Cathy F." <clfr@adelphia.net>
wrote:

>
>"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:xn0eq8yw21m7srb005@news.readfreenews.net...
>> Cathy F., 8/21/2006,10:30:37 PM, wrote:
>>
>>> > > Sure, there's emotional turmoil - I have a difficult time
>>> > > imagining that anyone would deny that. On the other side of the
>>> > > coin, how many people's lives have been messed up due to the
>>> > > birth of an unwanted child? How many of those kids themselves
>>> > > are messed up, and/or grew up to be messed up adults?? There are
>>> > > so many scenarios that could be present.... parent(s) want(s)
>>> > > child after all & everything pans out okay, parents don't want
>>> > > child - period - & resent him/her, child born into stable
>>> > > marriage, child born into one-parent home with mother on welfare
>>> > > &/or addicted to drugs, child adopted out to good home, child
>>> > > abused & or neglected, child on streets of inner-city...
>>> >
>>> > According to your logic then if there's a chance someone's life
>>> > could be messed up by the birth of the child then it is okay to
>>> > kill that baby, child, fetus, heavy menstruation, etc. All that
>>> > matters is whether the mother thinks her life or the child's life
>>> > won't be very easy.
>>>
>>> How about when tests during pregnancy show that a major
>>> defect/illness is present? That will mess up the child's life - if
>>> s/he lives beyond birth. Abortion an option, or not?
>>
>> I would say not. That sure sounds like what Hitler was doing in the
>> 30's. Only the beautiful, perfect people have a right to live.
>
>You're taking it way OTT here - hyperbole time, huh? Don't pull that kind
>of "reasoning" crap on me, it doesn't work. I'm not talking about a
>'perfect race', & you know it. I'm talking about a debilitating illness,
>which has a really lousy prognosis.

You are talking about being god....

I know god and you ain't god....

btw have you ever heard of cures?

I guess not...


>
>(And, BTW - you just killed the thread by mentioning Hitler - you don't know
>that Usenet "rule"?!)
>
>Cathy
>
>
> While
>> you're at it you might as well take out the people who develop awful
>> disabilities during their lifetime. They have nothing to look forward
>> to the rest of their lives either.
>
>

--

Scott in Florida

'The Land of the Free Thanks to the Brave'

 

Re: {OT}more babes are killed in the US, by their mothers, than in Iraq and Lebanon

Cathy F., 8/21/2006,10:46:28 PM, wrote:

> (And, BTW - you just killed the thread by mentioning Hitler - you
> don't know that Usenet "rule"?!)

Uh no, I don't. What is it?

 

Re: {OT}more babes are killed in the US, by their mothers, than in Iraq and Lebanon

On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 22:40:18 -0400, "Cathy F." <clfr@adelphia.net>
wrote:

>
>"Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant@mindspring.net> wrote in message
>news:q9rke2li2gg63krvp9pc8sc9fplgjq80hg@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 21:38:09 -0400, "Cathy F." <clfr@adelphia.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Sure, there's emotional turmoil - I have a difficult time imagining that
>>>anyone would deny that. On the other side of the coin, how many people's
>>>lives have been messed up due to the birth of an unwanted child?
>>
>> It IS a child....
>>
>> You libs like to kill kids...
>>
>> That is one thing you are WRONG about.
>
>Get this straight in your mushy little brain: no one *likes* abortions.
>
>Cathy
>
Oh?

You don't like abortions?

Well we are starting to get you educated, then.

There is NO need to kill kids....

Good to see you are coming around to the correct way of thinking...


--

Scott in Florida

'The Land of the Free Thanks to the Brave'

 

Re: {OT}more babes are killed in the US, by their mothers, than in Iraq and Lebanon

On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 22:39:11 -0400, "Cathy F." <clfr@adelphia.net>
wrote:

>
>"Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant@mindspring.net> wrote in message
>news:j7rke2t6dg9g5rruaf80ojuj9ii769v1bb@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 21:38:09 -0400, "Cathy F." <clfr@adelphia.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>> It is a child....whether you libs want to
>>>> admit it or not.
>>>
>>>No one has yet - incl. scientists, been able to figure out exactly when an
>>>embryo or fetus becomes a child. So I have grave suspicions about you
>>>actually knowing. Your opinion is one thing, but you present your opinion
>>>as fact, which is baloney.
>>
>> It is not my opinion....it is the man upstairs opinion....
>
>And you've been getting factual info from Him, huh? O-kay...

The absolute truth.

The truth you liberals are trying your best to not follow.


>
>Cathy
>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Scott in Florida
>>
>> 'The Land of the Free Thanks to the Brave'
>

--

Scott in Florida

'The Land of the Free Thanks to the Brave'

 

Re: {OT}more babes are killed in the US, by their mothers, than in Iraq and Lebanon

"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:xn0eq8yw21m7srb005@news.readfreenews.net...
> Cathy F., 8/21/2006,10:30:37 PM, wrote:
>
>> > > Sure, there's emotional turmoil - I have a difficult time
>> > > imagining that anyone would deny that. On the other side of the
>> > > coin, how many people's lives have been messed up due to the
>> > > birth of an unwanted child? How many of those kids themselves
>> > > are messed up, and/or grew up to be messed up adults?? There are
>> > > so many scenarios that could be present.... parent(s) want(s)
>> > > child after all & everything pans out okay, parents don't want
>> > > child - period - & resent him/her, child born into stable
>> > > marriage, child born into one-parent home with mother on welfare
>> > > &/or addicted to drugs, child adopted out to good home, child
>> > > abused & or neglected, child on streets of inner-city...
>> >
>> > According to your logic then if there's a chance someone's life
>> > could be messed up by the birth of the child then it is okay to
>> > kill that baby, child, fetus, heavy menstruation, etc. All that
>> > matters is whether the mother thinks her life or the child's life
>> > won't be very easy.
>>
>> How about when tests during pregnancy show that a major
>> defect/illness is present? That will mess up the child's life - if
>> s/he lives beyond birth. Abortion an option, or not?
>
> I would say not. That sure sounds like what Hitler was doing in the
> 30's. Only the beautiful, perfect people have a right to live.

You're taking it way OTT here - hyperbole time, huh? Don't pull that kind
of "reasoning" crap on me, it doesn't work. I'm not talking about a
'perfect race', & you know it. I'm talking about a debilitating illness,
which has a really lousy prognosis.

(And, BTW - you just killed the thread by mentioning Hitler - you don't know
that Usenet "rule"?!)

Cathy


While
> you're at it you might as well take out the people who develop awful
> disabilities during their lifetime. They have nothing to look forward
> to the rest of their lives either.

 

Re: {OT}more babes are killed in the US, by their mothers, than in Iraq and Lebanon

On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 22:30:37 -0400, "Cathy F." <clfr@adelphia.net>
wrote:

>
>"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:xn0eq8y6h1l6ugf001@news.readfreenews.net...
>> Cathy F., 8/21/2006,9:38:09 PM, wrote:
>>
>>> Sure, there's emotional turmoil - I have a difficult time imagining
>>> that anyone would deny that. On the other side of the coin, how many
>>> people's lives have been messed up due to the birth of an unwanted
>>> child? How many of those kids themselves are messed up, and/or grew
>>> up to be messed up adults?? There are so many scenarios that could
>>> be present.... parent(s) want(s) child after all & everything pans
>>> out okay, parents don't want child - period - & resent him/her, child
>>> born into stable marriage, child born into one-parent home with
>>> mother on welfare &/or addicted to drugs, child adopted out to good
>>> home, child abused & or neglected, child on streets of inner-city...
>>
>> According to your logic then if there's a chance someone's life could
>> be messed up by the birth of the child then it is okay to kill that
>> baby, child, fetus, heavy menstruation, etc. All that matters is
>> whether the mother thinks her life or the child's life won't be very
>> easy.
>
>How about when tests during pregnancy show that a major defect/illness is
>present? That will mess up the child's life - if s/he lives beyond birth.
>Abortion an option, or not?
>
>Cathy
>

Kill it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Re: {OT}more babes are killed in the US, by their mothers, than in Iraq and Lebanon

"Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant@mindspring.net> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 21:38:09 -0400, "Cathy F." <clfr@adelphia.net>
> wrote:
>
>>Sure, there's emotional turmoil - I have a difficult time imagining that
>>anyone would deny that. On the other side of the coin, how many people's
>>lives have been messed up due to the birth of an unwanted child?
>
> It IS a child....
>
> You libs like to kill kids...
>
> That is one thing you are WRONG about.

Get this straight in your mushy little brain: no one *likes* abortions.

Cathy

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> Scott in Florida
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> 'The Land of the Free Thanks to the Brave'

 

Re: {OT}more babes are killed in the US, by their mothers, than in Iraq and Lebanon

"Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant@mindspring.net> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 21:38:09 -0400, "Cathy F." <clfr@adelphia.net>
> wrote:
>
>>> It is a child....whether you libs want to
>>> admit it or not.
>>
>>No one has yet - incl. scientists, been able to figure out exactly when an
>>embryo or fetus becomes a child. So I have grave suspicions about you
>>actually knowing. Your opinion is one thing, but you present your opinion
>>as fact, which is baloney.
>
> It is not my opinion....it is the man upstairs opinion....

And you've been getting factual info from Him, huh? O-kay...

Cathy

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> Scott in Florida
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> 'The Land of the Free Thanks to the Brave'

 

Re: {OT}more babes are killed in the US, by their mothers, than in Iraq and Lebanon

Cathy F., 8/21/2006,10:30:37 PM, wrote:

> > > Sure, there's emotional turmoil - I have a difficult time
> > > imagining that anyone would deny that. On the other side of the
> > > coin, how many people's lives have been messed up due to the
> > > birth of an unwanted child? How many of those kids themselves
> > > are messed up, and/or grew up to be messed up adults?? There are
> > > so many scenarios that could be present.... parent(s) want(s)
> > > child after all & everything pans out okay, parents don't want
> > > child - period - & resent him/her, child born into stable
> > > marriage, child born into one-parent home with mother on welfare
> > > &/or addicted to drugs, child adopted out to good home, child
> > > abused & or neglected, child on streets of inner-city...
> >
> > According to your logic then if there's a chance someone's life
> > could be messed up by the birth of the child then it is okay to
> > kill that baby, child, fetus, heavy menstruation, etc. All that
> > matters is whether the mother thinks her life or the child's life
> > won't be very easy.
>
> How about when tests during pregnancy show that a major
> defect/illness is present? That will mess up the child's life - if
> s/he lives beyond birth. Abortion an option, or not?

I would say not. That sure sounds like what Hitler was doing in the
30's. Only the beautiful, perfect people have a right to live. While
you're at it you might as well take out the people who develop awful
disabilities during their lifetime. They have nothing to look forward
to the rest of their lives either.

 

Re: {OT}more babes are killed in the US, by their mothers, than in Iraq and Lebanon

On 22 Aug 2006 02:08:23 GMT, "badgolferman"
<REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

>Cathy F., 8/21/2006,9:38:09 PM, wrote:
>
>> Sure, there's emotional turmoil - I have a difficult time imagining
>> that anyone would deny that. On the other side of the coin, how many
>> people's lives have been messed up due to the birth of an unwanted
>> child? How many of those kids themselves are messed up, and/or grew
>> up to be messed up adults?? There are so many scenarios that could
>> be present.... parent(s) want(s) child after all & everything pans
>> out okay, parents don't want child - period - & resent him/her, child
>> born into stable marriage, child born into one-parent home with
>> mother on welfare &/or addicted to drugs, child adopted out to good
>> home, child abused & or neglected, child on streets of inner-city...
>
>According to your logic then if there's a chance someone's life could
>be messed up by the birth of the child then it is okay to kill that
>baby, child, fetus, heavy menstruation, etc. All that matters is
>whether the mother thinks her life or the child's life won't be very
>easy.
>
>This is so indicative of liberals, they think they are God and can make
>judgements of how others should be living and that life should be how
>they want it to be.


I'm glad we flush them out and show them for what they really are.

It is quite informative.

Nice to know we are on the right side of all of this....


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Scott in Florida

'The Land of the Free Thanks to the Brave'