On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 01:58:58 GMT, The benevolent dbu
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>In article <gb2cnSHrcKYX1zreUSdV9g@ptd.net>,
> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>
>> Obviously if you had done the research you would have discovered I meant to
>> type 1998.
>>
>> mike hunt
>
>These 'boys' are unforgiving of typos Mike, especially when they are
>backed up against a corner.
A corner? Bush is breaking federal law. Your rights are being thrown
out the window. You call that having "boys backed into a corner?
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On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 19:25:36 -0500, "Mike Hunter"
<mikehunt2@mailcity.com> continued to prove how totally fucking
ignorant he is by top posting and writing:
>Get real you apparently are as ignorant
Poor khunt. You've lost this argument. You have no evidence that the
war powers act has been invoked. Nor does your god bush.
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On 20 Dec 2005 00:47:10 GMT, "badgolferman"
<REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
>Mike Hunter, 12/19/2005,7:25:36 PM, wrote:
>
>> Obviously you have not researched the War Powers Act either.
>
>Let's help them:
>http://www.thecre.com/fedlaw/legal22/warpow.htm
>
>SEC. 2. (a)
>It is the purpose of this joint resolution to fulfill the intent of the
>framers of the Constitution of the United States and insure that the
>collective judgement of both the Congress and the President will apply
>to the introduction of United States Armed Forces into hostilities, or
>into situations where imminent involvement in hostilities is clearly
>indicate by the circumstances, and to the continued use of such forces
>in hostilities or in such situations.
>
>SEC. 2. (c)
>The constitutional powers of the President as Commander-in-Chief to
>introduce United States Armed Forces into hostilities, or into
>situations where imminent involvement in hostilities is clearly
>indicated by the circumstances, are exercised only pursuant to (1) a
>declaration of war, (2) specific statutory authorization, or (3) a
>national emergency created by attack upon the United States, its
>territories or possessions, or its armed forces.
>
>SEC. 3.
>The President in every possible instance shall consult with Congress
>before introducing United States Armed Forces into hostilities or into
>situation where imminent involvement in hostilities is clearly
>indicated by the circumstances, and after every such introduction shall
>consult regularly with the Congress until United States Armed Forces
>are no longer engaged in hostilities or have been removed from such
>situations.
>
>Gosh, it sure looks like President Bush has indeed followed the law.
>He got a resolution from both houses of Congress more than once. He
>got authorization to introduce the Armed Forces into hostilities based
>upon intelligence reports from several other country's spy networks,
>our own spies, and even from the previous President's mouth. The
>actual recordings of the Clintons and liberal Senators urging America
>to take out Saddam Hussein are transmitted on talk shows constantly.
>He has consistently kept Congress informed of all the dealings going
>on. I can't see any laws broken pursuant to the War Powers Act, but of
>course I'm no legal eagle.
>
>It's amazing the venom spewed from the Bush Haters hasn't caused them
>to drown yet.
No where within that does it say ANYTHING about allowing bush to
wiretap americans IN AMERICA. THanks for playing.
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On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 02:09:55 GMT, "Art"
<begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:xn0eb6n6q3eqc6y001@news.readfreenews.net...
>> Mike Hunter, 12/19/2005,7:25:36 PM, wrote:
>>
>>> Obviously you have not researched the War Powers Act either.
>>
>> Let's help them:
>> http://www.thecre.com/fedlaw/legal22/warpow.htm
>>
>> SEC. 2. (a)
>> It is the purpose of this joint resolution to fulfill the intent of the
>> framers of the Constitution of the United States and insure that the
>> collective judgement of both the Congress and the President will apply
>> to the introduction of United States Armed Forces into hostilities, or
>> into situations where imminent involvement in hostilities is clearly
>> indicate by the circumstances, and to the continued use of such forces
>> in hostilities or in such situations.
>>
>> SEC. 2. (c)
>> The constitutional powers of the President as Commander-in-Chief to
>> introduce United States Armed Forces into hostilities, or into
>> situations where imminent involvement in hostilities is clearly
>> indicated by the circumstances, are exercised only pursuant to (1) a
>> declaration of war, (2) specific statutory authorization, or (3) a
>> national emergency created by attack upon the United States, its
>> territories or possessions, or its armed forces.
>>
>> SEC. 3.
>> The President in every possible instance shall consult with Congress
>> before introducing United States Armed Forces into hostilities or into
>> situation where imminent involvement in hostilities is clearly
>> indicated by the circumstances, and after every such introduction shall
>> consult regularly with the Congress until United States Armed Forces
>> are no longer engaged in hostilities or have been removed from such
>> situations.
>>
>> Gosh, it sure looks like President Bush has indeed followed the law.
>> He got a resolution from both houses of Congress more than once. He
>> got authorization to introduce the Armed Forces into hostilities based
>> upon intelligence reports from several other country's spy networks,
>> our own spies, and even from the previous President's mouth. The
>> actual recordings of the Clintons and liberal Senators urging America
>> to take out Saddam Hussein are transmitted on talk shows constantly.
>> He has consistently kept Congress informed of all the dealings going
>> on. I can't see any laws broken pursuant to the War Powers Act, but of
>> course I'm no legal eagle.
>>
>
>So if he has infinite power why does he want the Patriot Act renewed? And
>where in the act does he have to right to bug our international calls beyond
>14 days without a court order?
>
He's the king, remember?
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In article <do7pt0$s7c$4@blackhelicopter.databasix.com>,
Gary L. Burnore <gburnore@databasix.com> wrote:
> On 20 Dec 2005 00:47:10 GMT, "badgolferman"
> <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Mike Hunter, 12/19/2005,7:25:36 PM, wrote:
> >
> >> Obviously you have not researched the War Powers Act either.
> >
> >Let's help them:
> >http://www.thecre.com/fedlaw/legal22/warpow.htm
> >
> >SEC. 2. (a)
> >It is the purpose of this joint resolution to fulfill the intent of the
> >framers of the Constitution of the United States and insure that the
> >collective judgement of both the Congress and the President will apply
> >to the introduction of United States Armed Forces into hostilities, or
> >into situations where imminent involvement in hostilities is clearly
> >indicate by the circumstances, and to the continued use of such forces
> >in hostilities or in such situations.
> >
> >SEC. 2. (c)
> >The constitutional powers of the President as Commander-in-Chief to
> >introduce United States Armed Forces into hostilities, or into
> >situations where imminent involvement in hostilities is clearly
> >indicated by the circumstances, are exercised only pursuant to (1) a
> >declaration of war, (2) specific statutory authorization, or (3) a
> >national emergency created by attack upon the United States, its
> >territories or possessions, or its armed forces.
> >
> >SEC. 3.
> >The President in every possible instance shall consult with Congress
> >before introducing United States Armed Forces into hostilities or into
> >situation where imminent involvement in hostilities is clearly
> >indicated by the circumstances, and after every such introduction shall
> >consult regularly with the Congress until United States Armed Forces
> >are no longer engaged in hostilities or have been removed from such
> >situations.
> >
> >Gosh, it sure looks like President Bush has indeed followed the law.
> >He got a resolution from both houses of Congress more than once. He
> >got authorization to introduce the Armed Forces into hostilities based
> >upon intelligence reports from several other country's spy networks,
> >our own spies, and even from the previous President's mouth. The
> >actual recordings of the Clintons and liberal Senators urging America
> >to take out Saddam Hussein are transmitted on talk shows constantly.
> >He has consistently kept Congress informed of all the dealings going
> >on. I can't see any laws broken pursuant to the War Powers Act, but of
> >course I'm no legal eagle.
> >
> >It's amazing the venom spewed from the Bush Haters hasn't caused them
> >to drown yet.
>
> No where within that does it say ANYTHING about allowing bush to
> wiretap americans IN AMERICA. THanks for playing.
People fearful of such things are usually hiding something.....drugs
maybe?
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"FanJet" <FanJet27@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Art wrote:
>> Better watch what you say about King Bush. He is listening to your
>> calls.
>
> In case you missed it, the boob multi-mumbled his way though the logic
> that laws are for you and I, not he - as long as he can get a few senators
> *not* courts to agree. Something about a war that hasn't been declared
> except by the executive branch. He should be impeached and thrown out. If
> we have any balls equipped senators left, that's what'll happen. What an
> example for Iraq. I'm sure Hussain could always get a bro or two to agree
> that whatever law he was breaking at the time was A-OK too. Losers.
>
>
That's rich. Save the multiple murderers and dump the Prez.
I'm glad I don't have to stare through your rose-colored glasses all day.
Sheesh.
On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 02:28:18 GMT, The benevolent dbu
<relaxand@smelltheroses.com> wrote:
>> No where within that does it say ANYTHING about allowing bush to
>> wiretap americans IN AMERICA. THanks for playing.
>
>People fearful of such things are usually hiding something.....drugs
>maybe?
KNew it was only a matter of time before someone said that. Why
bother having courts? Let bush decide. Hey, if you aren't guilty of
anything, why not invite the police into your house?
You're giving up your rights. That's fine. Just don't think it's ok
to give up everyone elses' rights.
Oh, and btw, BUSH claims it's to stop the terrorists. Are you saying
he's also lied about the targets of the taps? Bet you're right on
that.
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On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 18:31:29 -0800, "Jeff Strickland"
<crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>"FanJet" <FanJet27@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:43a6fe4d$0$25241$4d3efbfe@news.sover.net...
>> Art wrote:
>>> Better watch what you say about King Bush. He is listening to your
>>> calls.
>>
>> In case you missed it, the boob multi-mumbled his way though the logic
>> that laws are for you and I, not he - as long as he can get a few senators
>> *not* courts to agree. Something about a war that hasn't been declared
>> except by the executive branch. He should be impeached and thrown out. If
>> we have any balls equipped senators left, that's what'll happen. What an
>> example for Iraq. I'm sure Hussain could always get a bro or two to agree
>> that whatever law he was breaking at the time was A-OK too. Losers.
>>
>>
>
>
>That's rich. Save the multiple murderers and dump the Prez.
Multiple murderers? You mean like the two that bush let go in IRAQ?
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"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
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> Obviously if you had done the research you would have discovered I meant
to
> type 1998.
>
> mike hunt
>
>
No, not obvious-1989 vs. 1998 has no apparent typo connected with it. On the
subject itself, left or right, when all is said and done, alot has been said
but not much done. I hope that Arlen Specter can hold up to the pressure he
is going to face and holds the hearings he has said should be held. It is
Obvious that this issue is no slam-dunk for either side of the aisle and
should be investigated and the air cleared on what is allowable and what is
not. T
Art, 12/19/2005,9:09:55 PM, wrote:
> And where in the act does he have to right to bug our international
> calls beyond 14 days without a court order?
Get a clue, Art. This branch of the conversation had to do with
whether the President has the right to take the country into combat
without an official declaration of war by Congress.
--
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~ Will Rogers
Top-posting troll Mike Hunter wrote:
>I could not care less what you Bush haters choose to believe.
So as long as Bush occupies Iraq (or any country) he can invoke "war
time powers" that violate American's rights? God, you are a pathetic
moron.
On 20 Dec 2005 02:55:04 GMT, "badgolferman"
<REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
>Art, 12/19/2005,9:09:55 PM, wrote:
>
>> And where in the act does he have to right to bug our international
>> calls beyond 14 days without a court order?
>
>Get a clue, Art. This branch of the conversation had to do with
>whether the President has the right to take the country into combat
>without an official declaration of war by Congress.
Lying fucking puke. It still has to do with the subject line. The
top posting moron is claiming the war powers act gives bush the right
to tap our phones.
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On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 17:55:00 GMT, "Art"
<begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote:
>Better watch what you say about King Bush. He is listening to your calls.
>
I have nothing to fear....
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On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 23:10:13 -0500, Scott in Florida
<JustAsk@Florida.com> wrote:
>On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 17:55:00 GMT, "Art"
><begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>>Better watch what you say about King Bush. He is listening to your calls.
>>
>
>I have nothing to fear....
Soon that won't matter.
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Mike, here is an article with some facts and explanations even you might
understand.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10536559/site/newsweek/
"Art" <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> Better watch what you say about King Bush. He is listening to your calls.
>
"Scott in Florida" <JustAsk@Florida.com> wrote in message
news:701fq1l6fnsd95escnhphr7b4rlljl46qo@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 17:55:00 GMT, "Art"
> <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>>Better watch what you say about King Bush. He is listening to your calls.
>>
>
> I have nothing to fear....
>
> --
>
I wouldn't be so sure Scott. In last night's press conference Bush indicated
he did not like people who drove old Toyota's.
Art, 12/20/2005, 8:38:22 AM,
<iPTpf.7919$Dd2.1684@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net> wrote:
> Mike, here is an article with some facts and explanations even you
> might understand.
>
>
> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10536559/site/newsweek/
"We’re seeing clearly now that Bush thought 9/11 gave him license to
act like a dictator, or in his own mind, no doubt, like Abraham Lincoln
during the Civil War."
This statement alone has already shown the angle the reporter is coming
from. Why is he throwing in his opinion rather than just reporting the
facts?
--
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~ Will Rogers
Yet another gem posted by our friend who, buy his own definition, is DIZZY!
LOL
PS; I am not GOD, merely one who is will informed on US laws. Laws, other
than the war powers act. Laws, that the government lawyers say allows for
the interception, by the vast spy satellite system in place for many years,
of foreign communications even those into the US by the NSA. Laws that have
been on the books for many years and used by several Presidents in their
capacity as Commander in Chief to protect our citizens.
PPS; Why do you sign you post with the name Moron rather than DIZZY?
mike hunt
"dizzy" <dizzy@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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> Top-posting troll Mike Hunter wrote:
>
>>I could not care less what you Bush haters choose to believe.
>
> So as long as Bush occupies Iraq (or any country) he can invoke "war
> time powers" that violate American's rights? God, you are pathetic.
> moron.
>
"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Art, 12/20/2005, 8:38:22 AM,
> <iPTpf.7919$Dd2.1684@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> Mike, here is an article with some facts and explanations even you
>> might understand.
>>
>>
>> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10536559/site/newsweek/
>
>
> "We're seeing clearly now that Bush thought 9/11 gave him license to
> act like a dictator, or in his own mind, no doubt, like Abraham Lincoln
> during the Civil War."
>
> This statement alone has already shown the angle the reporter is coming
> from. Why is he throwing in his opinion rather than just reporting the
> facts?
>
It is an editorial.
This one is not:
http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/12/20/cheney.wiretaps/index.html
You continue to show your political bias and ignorance of US law and the
subject in general on which you choose to comment in your veiled attacks on
the President. The Patriot Act was passed to allow federal law enforcement
agencies and the federal intelligence agencies to work together with state
and local authorities on national security issues much in the same way they
have in criminal cases like with RICO. The Patriot Act uses a special court
to oversee their duties under the law, rather than criminal courts. Do us
all a favor on do some research before commenting on subjects of which you
obviously have little on no knowledge.
mike hunt
"Gary L. Burnore" <gburnore@databasix.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 02:09:55 GMT, "Art"
> <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>>"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:xn0eb6n6q3eqc6y001@news.readfreenews.net...
>>> Mike Hunter, 12/19/2005,7:25:36 PM, wrote:
>>>
>>>> Obviously you have not researched the War Powers Act either.
>>>
>>> Let's help them:
>>> http://www.thecre.com/fedlaw/legal22/warpow.htm
>>>
>>> SEC. 2. (a)
>>> It is the purpose of this joint resolution to fulfill the intent of the
>>> framers of the Constitution of the United States and insure that the
>>> collective judgement of both the Congress and the President will apply
>>> to the introduction of United States Armed Forces into hostilities, or
>>> into situations where imminent involvement in hostilities is clearly
>>> indicate by the circumstances, and to the continued use of such forces
>>> in hostilities or in such situations.
>>>
>>> SEC. 2. (c)
>>> The constitutional powers of the President as Commander-in-Chief to
>>> introduce United States Armed Forces into hostilities, or into
>>> situations where imminent involvement in hostilities is clearly
>>> indicated by the circumstances, are exercised only pursuant to (1) a
>>> declaration of war, (2) specific statutory authorization, or (3) a
>>> national emergency created by attack upon the United States, its
>>> territories or possessions, or its armed forces.
>>>
>>> SEC. 3.
>>> The President in every possible instance shall consult with Congress
>>> before introducing United States Armed Forces into hostilities or into
>>> situation where imminent involvement in hostilities is clearly
>>> indicated by the circumstances, and after every such introduction shall
>>> consult regularly with the Congress until United States Armed Forces
>>> are no longer engaged in hostilities or have been removed from such
>>> situations.
>>>
>>> Gosh, it sure looks like President Bush has indeed followed the law.
>>> He got a resolution from both houses of Congress more than once. He
>>> got authorization to introduce the Armed Forces into hostilities based
>>> upon intelligence reports from several other country's spy networks,
>>> our own spies, and even from the previous President's mouth. The
>>> actual recordings of the Clintons and liberal Senators urging America
>>> to take out Saddam Hussein are transmitted on talk shows constantly.
>>> He has consistently kept Congress informed of all the dealings going
>>> on. I can't see any laws broken pursuant to the War Powers Act, but of
>>> course I'm no legal eagle.
>>>
>>
>>So if he has infinite power why does he want the Patriot Act renewed? And
>>where in the act does he have to right to bug our international calls
>>beyond
>>14 days without a court order?
>>
> He's the king, remember?
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