Just buy a 3s-gte dude, it's not worth starting with a built engine. Get an engine with some power bone stock under the hood and build it from there. Hell with the 3s you can get around 350 horsepower on the stock bottom end no problem, just replace the head gasket and get some injectors and a tune.

BTW, there is no such thing as a JDM 5s-fe. that engine was only built for the American/Australian market :

 

did you happen to read the last part? no one is gonna change my mind.

 

im not sure he really cares what you do, it is your money. hes just trying to give ya good advice and i do believe you asked for suggestions killer.

definatly go with the SS brake lines. they are a really good upgrade. id also invest at least in a V6 brake upgrade as well after that if ya find them you can go with the ericsol caliper mod as well which really helps with fading and high speed braking.

 

KYB GR-2s for a fully-built car? lame ... Whiteline when the TRD is stiffer? lame ...

what about valve work? i didnt see it mentioned (maybe i missed it) - valve job, titanium parts, etc. should be on the list

dont waste your money on drilled rotors - slotted if you want something that looks cooler than blanks, but brembo blanks are the way to go (supra rotors if you can get brackets made because they will fill the wheel space up much nicer than OEM size, but the V6 brakes at least if u cant get the ericsol brackets)

3" exhaust on an N/A build is gonna do you no good, but it will come in handy for the turbo so i guess the underbody piping might be worth it ... the header will also be useless once you get the turbo ... i wouldnt go with the Apex'i N1 unless its a stock 5S - they arent known for being the best for actually built cars

as far as the turbo stuff, you know how to find the info

 

well yes i did ask for suggestions but none to tell me not to do it.

and thanks bigbird. ill look into that.

alright venom i get it. lol thats why i asked for suggestions.
TRD RSB it is. and as for struts. what do you suggest? tokicos? the headers ill hand them down to a friend. the piping is mainly for the turbo. just gonna get it over with. and as for muffler...Greddy?

 

tokicos for sure or if you wanna really be fully built go coilovers

dont skimp for less performance orientated suspension when you are going for such a heavy build

 

for struts, i would either look into the Koni's or if you want something in familiar territory then Tokico's

for the muffler, you should probably look at what some of the higher-hp N/A MR2 and Celica guys are using ... however keep in mind that it wont sound like theirs

 

coilovers or nothing if youre really going for an all out build- struts/s springs arent going to cut it. Jaws arent going to drop at the 1" drop from eibachs, the car will look stock.

Same with the headers, dont bother if youre going to replace it with a turbo manifold later. Any plans for wheels and tires? interior modifications? If youre truly wanting to build something and call it "fully built," youre going to need extensive interior, exterior, and performance modifications.

 

holy crap. dont call it fully built then. my bad i put that up there sh*t. im not going that over the top with suspension. i got a deal on kyb and springs so i got them. im putting those on.

 

I'll give you a cookie if you actually manage to do all the engine work you've listed there.

 

chocolate chip?

 

White chocolate macademia nut. I don't fool around bitches.

 

As previously mentioned, Don't get KYB struts and Eibach springs for a full build. Go Coilovers. Not only will springs etc not look very good due to the mild drop but the suspensions really won't be THAT much better and the handling will not be on par with the power.

 

i say if ya got a good deal on the suspension and its not on yet then sell that shit and use the money to do it right. i have to say if i put all that time and work into my engine and tranny id want the best control of the car that i could possibly get.

 

damon .. sell ur rotora bbk to this guy.

darkmastyr's baller- offerin' some macadamia nutted cookies

rav - good fuckin luck.

 

shit, for thoes cookies id do the 2jz swap:lol:

 

bigbird do you have coilovers? maybe coilovers can come when the turbo is fully operational. and stfu before telling me its a waste of money. its mine so stop that. the built engine isnt gonna have no crazy power, so the springs and shocks will do fine. since the entire turbo build is gonna take a while, m not cheaping out!!! HAPPY?!?! lol this will do.

looking at the k sport, kontrol pro damper system, and found some d2 rs racing coilovers. ratings out of 10 guys? and suggestions on better coilovers, koni doesnt make.

 

bigbird do you have coilovers? maybe coilovers can come when the turbo is fully operational. and stfu before telling me its a waste of money. its mine so stop that. the built engine isnt gonna have no crazy power, so the springs and shocks will do fine. since the entire turbo build is gonna take a while, m not cheaping out!!! HAPPY?!?! lol this will do.

Stupid eibachs. i put them in my front today and im very disappointed...maybe a few days for it to settle -_-? BAH!!! stupid eibach.
Anyways are Ksport /D2's bad in any sense? why JIC over the Ksports?

so lets get this straight. you bite my head off cuz i make a suggestion which you have asked for in several posts then are dissatisfied with how it turned out even though most of us told ya, you would be. but since they are are on there and arnt bad as far as suspension components go, then they will drop a little and you could also get a higher sidewall tire to compensate for the gap.:thumbsup:

 

dont get ksports/d2's (theyre the same thing, just repainted/badged) ..... go for the JIC's (the gen 4 coils will fit the gen 3)

koni makes shock inserts that i hear are good, but im not sure how many ppl have used them on the gen 3 - i think there was someone with them on here recently

also, how much are you estimating the turbo build to cost? and what about the preparatory NA build (this thread)?

 

i cant really estimate...like i said i will get most of the stuff i need , including machining, for cheap or free. i have access to all kinds of equipment and shops. the only things ill end up paying for are the internals. (pistons, rings, rods, bearings from an online dealer) all turbo parts all that stuff ill get hooked up. it shouldnt be much.

 

Stupid eibachs. i put them in my front today and im very disappointed...maybe a few days for it to settle -_-? BAH!!! stupid eibach.
Anyways are Ksport /D2's bad in any sense? why JIC over the Ksports?

 

Bad in the sense that your ride quality is going to go to hell.

 

I see this nonsense a lot and always wonder how many of these people actually HAVE coilovers. I installed coilovers on my car and the ride got better.

The JIC coilovers are definately (much) better than the Ksports.

The Ksports have gotten a lot of mixed reviews, but some of the people giving the bad reviews also installed them improperly so...Take it with a grain of salt. If you set them up properly and get them valved properly they should be just fine for an entry level coilover.

 

What's wrong with eibach??

 

Uh yes I have coilovers. Hotbits. Thanks.

You would be the first person with coilovers on a Camry that I know of who doesn't say their ride quality has gone south. Not saying that it can't be done, but none of the CO's available for the Camry seem to be able to achieve good ride quality.

But hey if you say your particular setup is softer than stock, far be it for me to contest.

Oh and JICs are not going to fit unless you swap over some Gen4 hubs as well, from what I can gather.

 

You would be the first person with coilovers on a Camry that I know of who doesn't say their ride quality has gone south

correct

Oh and JICs are not going to fit unless you swap over some Gen4 hubs as well, from what I can gather.

incorrect - GrkBallaG has gen 4 JIC's on his Gen 3

 

He didn't have to swap to Gen4 hubs though? I was under the impression he had to do that. Swegyptian also has JIC's, but I'm pretty sure he needed to swap the hubs over. But I could be wrong.

 

i think hes dissapointed in the drop, that has been the only thing ive herd people complain about with thoes. especially since the eibachs are just about the stiffist springs you can get for the gen3. but the shocks dont help. the best as far as handeling is the eibach and tokico combo. but if ya got them for a good deal and plan on doin C/O in the future jsut ride easy on em then ull prolly get a good return on the money you spent on them.

 

especially since the eibachs are just about the stiffist springs you can get for the gen3.

i dont think this is true, since the Eibach Pro-Kit springs for most other cars are found to be softer than stock ... for those people who have actually shock dyno'd their setups, like on NASIOC and other forums

ECale3 - you are confusing handling with ride quality .... quality refers to comfort, of which K-Sports (yes, even custom valved ones) have very little .... handling is greatly improved however, the steering isnt as sloppy, the weight transfer is controlled, etc. - this is why DarkMastyr questions you, because with most coilovers the quality is sacrificed in the name of handling

to the OP: if you think the drop isnt enough, maybe you shouldve read my big Gen 3 Suspension Options thread - because i definitely noted that, and its been covered by several others too