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Replacing 2 tires instead of all 4?

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#1 ·
I have a 2010 4WD RAV4 - 4 cylinder, base model. Over 150,000 miles on it.

I recently had to have the wheel bearing replaced, I asked the guy about my tires, and he mentioned that my two front tires were pretty low tread-wise. Oddly, my back tires were hardly worn at all, despite being replaced at the same time as the fronts before.

I guess when I had Monro do their oil change and tire rotation special, they just swapped driver and passenger, and never bothered with front to back.

The guy said that with some 4WD/AWD cars, you can get away with replacing just two tires. Would that be the case with my RAV4? Can I just replace two?

Thanks!
 
#2 ·
You said the back tires look pretty good. You should be able to replace only 2. I always buy the same tire if I only replace 2. I have had no trouble, but your owners manual says replace all 4. If you rotated your tires they should wear about the same.
 
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Thanks - they were supposed to be rotated when I brought it in for my regular oil changes. However, as I said above, it looks like they only swapped left to right, and never front to rear. Either that, or Monro never rotated them at all. I can't think of another reason why the rear tires would be hardly worn compared to the fronts.
 
#4 ·
The rear tires dont wear like the fronts because they dont do the turning and accelerating. The turns are what wear tires down. Hence why people with alot of highway driving get more life out of them.

Your wifes dry turning (google) doesnt help either.


I would just rotate the front and back and get more use out of them before buying a new set.


Lesson here is to inspect after shops say they rotated them. Clearly they did not. swapping pass and driver side is not a rotation.
And car platform doesnt matter. 4x2 or 4x4 they should be rotated every 5-6k miles
 
#6 ·
Well, in the grooves of the tire you will see a small bump every 12" or so.


Those are wear bars. They tell you when the service life is up. This is a good indication of how much tread you have left.,

You always want the best tread in the front (even though tire companies are telling people different to sell tires) as the fronts are hitting puddles, evacuating water, braking, and taking the all the punishment.


Now braking is best on dry roads with worn tires down to the wear bars. Wet braking is best with more tread.

Handling is better with worn tires in dry conditions, better with more tread in wet..

any questions?
 
#10 · (Edited)
I think you could rotate front to back and be good to go.

A Toyota shop once lied to me, as I did have a mark on my tires and they did not rotate as they claimed. That, plus a few other instances of shoddy work, cost them my business. Shops don't really make money out of these 'oil change specials' unless they cut corners or rope you into an unnecessary item.

As for replacing 2 tires, I agree with what has been said. Per the Toyota Service Manual, it is preferable to do all 4, as this provides the most consistent acceleration and braking. But it is acceptable to replace 2 at a time "to maintain nearly equivalent tread on both tires of an axle."

Also, f you wanna keep an eye on tread, here's a free tool:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=51

While 2/32 is legal, a few sources say for snow driving, best to get new at 4/32 or a little sooner...
 
#11 ·
I think you could rotate front to back and be good to go.

A Toyota shop once lied to me, as I did have a mark on my tires and they did not rotate as they claimed. That, plus a few other instances of shoddy work, cost them my business. Shops don't really make money out of these 'oil change specials' unless they cut corners or rope you into an unnecessary item.

As for replacing 2 tires, I agree with what has been said. Per the Toyota Service Manual, it is preferable to do all 4, as this provides the most consistent acceleration and braking. But it is acceptable to replace 2 at a time "to maintain nearly equivalent tread on both tires of an axle."
I went to a local shop to get the wheel bearing replaced, so I was actually happy the guy suggested the possibility of replacing only 2 tires. He could have said that since I have 4WD, I needed to replace all 4 tires at once and made more money.