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Safe to use a 2000W inverter in Venza for off-grid camping?

6.3K views 25 replies 17 participants last post by  GrandpaTR  
#1 ·
Hey guys. I searched in this forum but didn't find similar question posted before so I'll create my own.

I plan to go off-grid camping during December. Planned to visit several national parks. I read some articles about converting a Prius Prime into a power generator with 1200W inverter, just wonder if I can push it a little further. Here's a pure sine 2000W inverter I found on Amazon. It'll be useful not only for camping but also during power outage.

The devices that I will use:
1. Heating blanket, 45W steady, 125W when starting.
2. Microwave, 900W
3. Induction stove, 1000W
4. TV, 50W
5. Heater: 500W
6. Charge laptops/phones/flashlights/drones, etc., 100W

Chances are low that I'll ever need to run them at the same time. I can't go with 1500W inverter because the start power consumption of a 900W microwave can go up to 2500W, so better to be on the safe side.

2000W/12V = 166A, and I'm going to use 2 AWG wire between the 12V battery and the inverter, with an inline 150A fuse.

To help me with the calculation, I wonder what's the max amperage that the traction battery can charge the 12V battery?
 
#7 ·
That's right. According to my research and experiment, it also charges the 12V battery when the car is in READY mode, outputting ~14V.

Moderator deleted my reply, I suppose.
2nd try.
The inverter size has nothing to do with a Venza.
Best to search Google regarding the use of a 12v inverter and sizing out the battery AH based on load.
Thanks. Think of it as a swimming pool. The 12V battery is the pool. The inlet(traction battery or main hybaid battery) can fill the pool at (let's say) 100A. So if I draw more than 1200W from the inverter, the battery level in the 12V will inevitable drop. That's why I need to know the max charging amperage from the traction battery.
 
#8 ·
A shot in the dark, but have you considered a dual battery set up? Lots of off roaders and campers set up dual batteries. You could run some heavy cable to the trunk and use Anderson plugs to connect your second battery in parallel while the car is running to charge. When you need to use your inverter, unplug your second battery and hook it up to the inverter where needed so it doesn't drain your main battery. Just a thought!

Make sure your inverter can handle the temporary overload due to in-rush.
 
#17 ·
its prob cheaper and much easier and safer to just get a 2000w generator $600 bucks you can get one of these, and you wouldn't have to leave your trunk open all the time so the bugs get in.
 
#20 ·
It seems as if you, first, need to get your data from the vehicle's manufacturer as to the capabilities of the vehicle's electrical system to support 'accessories.' And what might void your warranty.
Then you need to get on a camping conversion blog where you will find all manner of conversions (temporary and otherwise) designed specifically for the purpose you (OP) describe.
If that leads you to a solution that is not clearly in line with the recommendations and parameters from the manufacturer, you might need to get on an Electronics list to ask specific questions about ratings, wire gauge, and such that an EE would be able to answer by simply 'doing the Math.'
It would be a real PITA if you microwaved your coffee one cold December morning and it blew the power on your Venza - 'cause getting a tow out of a National Park in a snowstorm to keep from being found a week later frozen in your back seat could prove problematic.
 
#24 ·
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Plus you have the draw of the electric fan and electric pumps for the engine coolant and inverter coolant. And a battery is not a reservoir nor does it possess a cooling system. Electricity is not water and cannot passively flow from traction battery to lead acid battery to inverter. Constant chemical reactions from charge and discharge cycling at that level of will turn that tiny un-cooled lead acid battery into a furnace generating heat from sustained heavy cycle chemical reactions. My guess is that using an external inverter with a draw of that size in excess of design specs for normal vehcile use is looking for trouble. May not adversely affect the cooled Li traction battery but will likely push the enclosed uncooled tiny battery well beyond its ability to safely dissipate heat.