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Stoopid Question about removing the oil filter.

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#1 ·
I have been changing my oil by myself (Using Mobile-1 if your want to know) I love the location of the filter and I hate it as I get oil alll over the hoses and what not that are below the filter. Does anyone know how to remove the filter without so much oil leakiing out of the filter once you unscrew it? I know this oil isn't good for the belts and hoses. what do you Toyota mechanics do to prevent this?

BTW Any tips or tricks on cleaning the engine?

Peace
 
#2 ·
Well why are u getting that much comming out. I drain my oil then do the filter. Maybe thats why if u take the filter off first. Plus did you loose the little rubber cap that drains the oil out of the catch. I usually hold a cup under it and pull the rubber cap off. i dont get any oil anywhere.
I clean my motors with tire cleaner or wheel cleaner. then just hose it off and take it around the block real fast to drain out any puddles of water sitting insde the bay. then i let the truck run for 5mins to dry it..kinda steam cleaning..lol
 
#3 ·
There shouldn't be so much oil coming out of the filter that the catch "basin" can't contain it.
It has a plug on it on the the bottom.
Let it drain into the basin, then when you can get it upright, drain it into a container.

Or, what I do, is attach some clear tubing (Home Depot) to the drain nipple that drops down to the oil drain catch pan so that as it leaks into the "catch basin", it just drains down the tubing into the catch pan.

I let my oil drain for 45 minutes, come back outside and pull the filter. But I'm a little strange.

Are you draining the oil from the pan before removing the filter?
 
#4 ·
Tacodawg said:
I have been changing my oil by myself (Using Mobile-1 if your want to know) I love the location of the filter and I hate it as I get oil alll over the hoses and what not that are below the filter. Does anyone know how to remove the filter without so much oil leakiing out of the filter once you unscrew it? I know this oil isn't good for the belts and hoses. what do you Toyota mechanics do to prevent this?

BTW Any tips or tricks on cleaning the engine?

Peace
Some people say use a screw driver to poke a hole in the filter and let it sit for a while as the truck drains.

I just stick a small water bottle under the little spout, losen the filter, let some oil drain in the catch pan then change the filter and remove the water bottle.

I never have a mess when removing the filter.

This is assuming you have the V6, not sure how the I4 is set up if thats what your using.
 
#8 ·
55reasons said:
There shouldn't be so much oil coming out of the filter that the catch "basin" can't contain it.
It has a plug on it on the the bottom.
Let it drain into the basin, then when you can get it upright, drain it into a container.

Or, what I do, is attach some clear tubing (Home Depot) to the drain nipple that drops down to the oil drain catch pan so that as it leaks into the "catch basin", it just drains down the tubing into the catch pan.

I let my oil drain for 45 minutes, come back outside and pull the filter. But I'm a little strange.

Are you draining the oil from the pan before removing the filter?

I use the clear tubing as well and it works great. 45 mins? You are strange, but I am sure it is not dripping when you put the oil plug back on.
 
#9 ·
dorkman said:
I just stick a small water bottle under the little spout, losen the filter, let some oil drain in the catch pan then change the filter and remove the water bottle.

I never have a mess when removing the filter.
Yep, same way i do it. I got a 16oz. plastic bottle thats shaped wierd so it lines up perfect with the drain and fits in there snug so i dont have to hold it. I just put it on the garage shelf when im done and use it next time. It'll prolly be good for like 10+ uses. :thumbup:
 
#10 ·
I only change my oil on Sundays.

I pull the drain plug, then eat lunch.

By the time I'm done eating, there isn't a single drop of oil left in the pan.

And I use one of those cheap (Blitz) oil drain containers from Autozone with the yellow screw on lid. I coil up the clear tubing and store it between the lid and the screen so it doesn't get lost. I use a different container for every car, and they all have at least one thing under the lid specific to each car. It saves time in the long run.

I don't know about anyone else, but I installed a "Sure drain" on my 04 DC and hated it. IT took forever to drain the oil, and I don't think it was free flowing enough to let the sediment at the bottom of the pan to pass through the valve without waiting a painfully long time.

Long story short, I thought it sucked. Plus I hated having that orange tube laying around with oil slowly seeping from it all the time. It required more work that just pulling the plug IMHO.
 
#11 ·
1. Remove Engine oil refill cap

2. put drain pan under oil pan.

3. Remove oil pan bolt let oil drain

4. Poke hole in top of oil filter with a sharp punch. Whatever you do, don't be stupid and drill a hole causing metal shavings to fall down in the oil.

5. Remove rubber cap below the oil filter catch tray.

6. Place an empty cup or something like that to catch the oil from the oil filter under the drain hole.

7. Remove old oil filter.

8. Do something until the oil stops dripping

9. Replace oil pan bolt

10. Replace oil filter drain plug

11. Install new oil filter.

12. Fill engine with 5.5 quarts of new oil.

13. Replace engine oil cap.

14. Check oil level
 
#14 ·
:confused: The Toyota mechanics I went to did do nothing to prevent the oil from spilling all over.

I am thinking of attaching a tube permanently to the filter drain. I could use plastic ties to keep the tube from flapping around and route it to just below the engine shield. If possible snake it next to were the oil drain plug is. That way I would never have to fuss with it and it would drain directly into the waste oil container along with the rest of the oil. Might need a plug for the end of long drain line though as it would probably drip for hours.

Why did Toyota chose to mount the oil filter hole down. Seems that if the oil filter backflow preventers had a slight leak the possibility of draining the filter oil would exist. If they mounted the filters hole up it would be easer to prefill the filters and be cleaner when taking the older ones off. Sometimes when I tap on the filter It sounds pretty empty.

Any one notice that the gasket on the their factory oil filter differs from the gaskets on the Toyota replacement filters?
 
#15 ·
Count said:
Anybody ever run a half-quart of new oil through the engine and allow it to drain out, after driaining the old oil? I've never tried this, but it always seemed to me like a good way to flush out that last little bit of old stuff that maybe wouldn't come out on its own.
Well since you always have a 1/2 quart laying around anyway I don't see how it could hurt.:lol:

I don't know that it would pick anything up, but I guess it's worth a shot.
 
#17 ·
JTOY98 said:
:confused: The Toyota mechanics I went to did do nothing to prevent the oil from spilling all over.

I am thinking of attaching a tube permanently to the filter drain. I could use plastic ties to keep the tube from flapping around and route it to just below the engine shield. If possible snake it next to were the oil drain plug is. That way I would never have to fuss with it and it would drain directly into the waste oil container along with the rest of the oil. Might need a plug for the end of long drain line though as it would probably drip for hours.
Might want to use some stainless steel braided rubber line for long term appearance / durability..

Compared to what you had to go through with the 01-04 4WD model, this one is a dream.

As far as "why it's upside down" I would say that it's probably a mounting issue. In order to get it right side up it would hasve to extend outward to hang below the mount which probably caused some clearance issues.
 
#18 ·
55reasons said:
Might want to use some stainless steel braided rubber line for long term appearance / durability..

Compared to what you had to go through with the 01-04 4WD model, this one is a dream.

As far as "why it's upside down" I would say that it's probably a mounting issue. In order to get it right side up it would hasve to extend outward to hang below the mount which probably caused some clearance issues.
easiest oil change I ever dealt with short of paying for a properly done oil change. I even found a use for the clutch cancel switch. After completing the oil/filter change I start the engine and check for leaks. By using the clutch cancel switch I don't have to get into the truck after being under it. Everything stays a little cleaner that way;) Just make sure shes in nuetral though:)

How about a copper line? with a little valve at the end:)
 
#19 ·
Quick question related to this. I'm about to do my first OC on my V6 '05 and was wondering about the "special service tool" wrench. Is this necessary, or can I use my old "lasso style"
filter wrench without torquing too much on the filter manifold.

It seems stupid that one would need a SST to do an oil change, but thought I'd make double-sure.

Thanks,

JD


P.S. Uhhh huh huh.....he said 'tool'.
 
#20 ·
There's a special oil filter tool? You must be joking. In 40 years of changing oil, I use only my hands. Since this is your first oil change on this truck, you will likely find the filter very tight. I'm guessing your "lasso style" is a strap -- that's what I had to use & it worked great. Then just wipe the mounting surface clean, apply a light (clean) oil film to the new filter o-ring, and snug it down firmly but not too tight -- it will get tighter with use, and should be removable by hand at your next oil change.
 
#21 ·
I figured as much. I've been doing my own oil on my last three vehicles (1 swede, 1 german, 1 japanese-a Subaru) and they've all been easy. I only ask this because the box for the OEM filter for the Tacoma specifies an SST. This truck looks about the easiest because the filter's on top and I won't have to use my little ramp thingies.

Thanx,

JD
 
#22 ·
Aha! You made me look -- I bought a case of Toyota filters, never bothered to read the printing, but there it is -- use the tool. Fat chance! :lol:

And yes, it's an easy oil change, though not as easy as my old K20 Chevy -- you could almost throw a party ander that truck. ;)
 
#23 ·
Tacodawg said:
I have been changing my oil by myself (Using Mobile-1 if your want to know) I love the location of the filter and I hate it as I get oil alll over the hoses and what not that are below the filter. Does anyone know how to remove the filter without so much oil leakiing out of the filter once you unscrew it? I know this oil isn't good for the belts and hoses. what do you Toyota mechanics do to prevent this?

BTW Any tips or tricks on cleaning the engine?

Peace


hey do what i did. get 3 feet of 3/8 hose and a hose clamp. clamp it to the little nippple at the bottom of the filter resevoir (whatever) then run it straight down to the frame and zip tie it up, so them when u change ur filter it will drain down the hose and into ur pan. yeah its easy
 
#25 ·
bayef9sir said:
hey do what i did. get 3 feet of 3/8 hose and a hose clamp. clamp it to the little nippple at the bottom of the filter resevoir (whatever) then run it straight down to the frame and zip tie it up, so them when u change ur filter it will drain down the hose and into ur pan. yeah its easy
Good tip, I have already done this. :thumbup:
 
#26 ·
First oil change. Okay i don't want to be an idiot here but i want to make sure i'm draining the right fluid as i have read before where people drained the tranny fluid by mistake. The oil drain plug is the one closest to the front of the vehicle right? The one that is guarded by the skid plates?

Also this is my first toyota and for the life of me i couldn't find the location of the oil filter then i looked under the hood and it's right there! I assume that's it right? The only problem (and reason i doubted myself that was the oil filter) is that i can already tell by looking that the filter on there now is larger than the one i bought, and i know i bought the right size Mobil M1-102 because i compared the mobil 1, fram, pureone, etc and they were all the same size. It's the right diameter but the one on there from the factory seems much taller. :confused: I have a 2006 and the reference books at Pep Boys don't have past 2005 but i assumed they were the same. Did i get the right filter?

Thanks for the help!!