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#1 ·
I am thinking of buying a supercharger for my car……have a few questions relating to it.
1. What brand should I go for?
2. What additional changes would I need to make in the stock engine and any additional gadgets to add?
3. What’s the approx price of it?
Thanks!
 
#2 ·
Try and find a GM or TRD kit. They are discontinued but are a direct bolt on for 03/04 corolla's. If you have an 05-08, you will need an adapter and a computer management program such as eManage. Should toss a boost gauge and air/fuel gauge in your car.

Expect to pay $2800 and up for a newer unit

Ryan
 
#3 ·
Thanks…….but mine is a 07, 1.8L, VVT-i………what’s an adapter & eMange…..is it a replacement of the stock ECU…..boost gauge & air fuel gauge are similar to UNICHIP?

Plus $2,500/ for a TRD one…..any other additions like manifolds, Cold air intake, special spark plugs…..is their ample space under the hood of it…..can one install it by an tech or only TRD?

What’s the approx weight of the unit & size?

Thanks’ again.
 
#4 ·
Your Drive By Wire Throttle Body(05-08) does not fit on the TRD Supercharger so you must hunt down an adapter plate to fit.

The TRD kit comes with a Piggy Back ECU upgrade to manage fuel delivery ect. eManage overrides your current ECU settings to allow your engine to make more power safely. You must know how to tune a boosted engine.

Boost Gauge is like a fuel gauge. It will tell you how much boost you are achieving. Air/Fuel Ratio Gauge will tell you how lean or rich you currently are running your engine. At higher boost levels it is wise to have a little more fuel. Since you must use eManage I would recommend the gauges.

The kit being a kit is designed to fit the corolla and not any other car. It better fit under the hood.

TRD Supercharger is your new intake manifold. You can still use the stock Airbox. Can't remember if plugs are required. You should get new injectors such as the 2ZZ injectors or better. And of course 91 Octane must be used.

Ryan
 
#5 · (Edited by Moderator)
It's a drive by cable throttle body........there is an accelerator/ cable wrapped around the throttle body.......not like the one in the 10th gen?

I have replaced the stock air intake by a CAI.

TRD kit includes Boost gauge & EManage?

Where is the link to this TRD kit?

Why new injectors any tech reason.......what specs are the stock injectors?

Can I install UNICIP & Flux later?

I shall post the pic of the engine.

Thanks,

Yezinki.

Thanks for your in-depth reply. What I gather from that is:

1. I don’t have a Drive by wire throttle body rather it has an accelerator cable wrapped around.
2. By Piggy bag you mean the stock black plastic connector plate attached on top of the aluminum pipe of CAI?
3. So in other words Piggy bag shall replace it….yea?
4. ECU is in the car cabin behind the glove compartment?
5. eManage shall override the stock ECU?
6. UNICHIP & Flux are all together different thing?
7. Boost gauge, eManage & UNCHIP don’t conflict or have similar functions?
8. TRD Supercharger shall replace the stock manifold?
9. What specs are the stock injectors & importance of 91 octane & 2ZZ injectors?
10. What’s the average life of the TRD super charger kit & its link?

Regards,
Yezinki.

Engine Control Unit (ECU)

The TRD ECU, which is supplied with every kit, is programmed for its specific vehicle. Numerous people have tried using it on the Celica GT, and have had problems with pinging and knocking at different RPM ranges. Other people on the other hand have tried it, and have no problems whatsoever.

***NOTE: I advise noone to use the supplied TRD ECU. Using it can cause damage to both the engine and the supercharger. Noone wants to see their hard work go to waste.

There are many different options available to Celica GT owners with the TRD Supercharger. Piggyback Units like the E-Manage Blue, E-Manage Ultimate, Unichip, PFC, etc. are all great units to use with the TRD Supercharger. You also have the option of going with a Standalone unit such as HydraEMS. This involves ALOT more tuning than the piggyback systems.

In order for these units, both Piggyback and Standalone, to work, you must create 'Maps'. Unless you have lots of experience with this, the car should be taken to a tuner to be tuned properly. Maps are often shared with other people, but you must be careful. Everyones car is different, and not everyone has the same modifications done to their car. The best thing to do is have it taken to a tuner for proper set-up.


The list above is what you will need to modify in order to run the TRD Supercharger properly in your system. I've accumulated this information myself from doing countless a amount of searches and tests. If I come across any new information that would be beneficial, I will add it to this post accordingly.
 
#6 · (Edited)
1. I don’t have a Drive by wire throttle body rather it has an accelerator cable wrapped around.
2. By Piggy bag you mean the stock black plastic connector plate attached on top of the aluminum pipe of CAI?
3. So in other words Piggy bag shall replace it….yea?
4. ECU is in the car cabin behind the glove compartment?
5. eManage shall override the stock ECU?
6. UNICHIP & Flux are all together different thing?
7. Boost gauge, eManage & UNCHIP don’t conflict or have similar functions?
8. TRD Supercharger shall replace the stock manifold?
9. What specs are the stock injectors & importance of 91 octane & 2ZZ injectors?
10. What’s the average life of the TRD super charger kit & its link?

Regards,
Yezinki.
1. You DO have a drive by wire throttle. Drive by cable throttle is on 04-03 Corollas and the 05-06 Corolla XRS.

2. Piggy back ECU: Meaning the the ECU is controled to deliver more fuel to the injectors (engine) without replacing the intire ECU unit. Greddy e-Manage, Apexi Power FC. No he's not talking about the MAF sensor.

3. !?

4. Personally don't know the exact location... someone will.

5. Refer to 2. in my post.

6. Looks to me that the Unichip makes the Flux and is just another piggy back ECU management device like the e-Manage. refer to 2.

7. Boost gauge will tell you the pressure of the air entering the engine when the engine is a forced induction engine (super or turbo) and usually in BAR or less common PSI units. Refer to 6. in my post for e-Manage/Flux.

8. Correct. on the 03-04 I believe it will bolt right on where the intake manifold is... not sure on the 07.

9. I don't know how big the stock injectors are... <380cc? You will need to run a higher octane (premium fuel) to avoid pre-detonation in the engine. You will need larger injectors so the the engine will get enough fuel to remain at an acceptable fuel air mixture level. If you run regular fuel with a boosted 1ZZ engine it will probably result in engine damage (grenade). The engine will run lean with the stock injectors and will possibly damage the fuel pump with the extra stress. 2ZZ engines require premium from the get-go. I advise to invest in a higher pressure fuel pump and a billet fuel rail if you run larger injectors...

10. http://www.trdusa.com/warranty.cfm A year or 12,000miles is the warrenty. After that who the heck knows... depends on how you drive the car.

Not to sound like an ***. But I think you should research Forced Induction, Aftermarket Parts, and the 1ZZ-FE Engine very very throughly if you're considering modding/tuning your Corolla to this extreme. It will cost you lots to do, and even more if you screw up.
 
#7 · (Edited by Moderator)
Thanks Exage for your indepth reply.

Firstly is this the Drive by WIRE throttle or cable?

Regards!

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1. Till now, I have replaced the stock air filter with custom designed WR Secret weapon air filter, Ram kit & crank case breather.

2. Use Denso Iridium SK16R11 spark plugs.

3. Valvoline fully synthetic engine oil 5W-30.

Regards,

Yezinki.

Exage TRD has stopped manufacturing superchargers for my vehicle.....probably now I shall have to install a turbo .......the idea of which I am not really comfy with.

My car has just done 13K mile.

Regards,

Yezinki.
 
#9 · (Edited by Moderator)
Yes right hand drive.


I shall post more pics of the engine.....& any thing you would ask for like specs.


Thanks again Exage,

1. What’s the conclusion……is it wire or cable.........I had a feeling despite bein a med doc lol that it's drive by cable, although manufactured in 06.......does that make it simpler or more complex to install a supercharger?

2. I apologize………that is MAF sensor on the CAI pipe…….Piggy back, Greddy eManage, Apexi Power FC & SFC , & UNICHIP perform the same functions?

3. What are your personal views about SLR Ultimate performance chip…….to me looks like more of a scam…….SLR supposedly has similar functions to UNICHIP but the price is approx $70/ vs. $ 600/ for basic UNICHIP…..http://slrmotorsports.com/?

4. Flux with PDA is for personal engine testing…….where from can I buy it?

5. Higher pressure fuel pump & billet fuel rail makes sense.

6. In short what are ALL the components needed to install a Supercharger?

7. UNICHIP is strange, probably coz of its maps…….different for ones with & without turbo/superchargers……….again differ if both custom intake & exhaust are installed vs. stock………I think the gadget remains the same the difference is in the info stored in the chip, according to the stock vs. custom installs?

8. Where should I look for a super charger…….Are there any other reputable brands besides TRD or check eBay for a used one?

9. Why does UNICHIP only recommend K&N or Injen intakes…..cause their chip settings are according to them?

Yezinki.

Exage is it simpler to install & maintain a turbo or supercharger?


What are the main pros & cons of each?


What have you installed in your ride?

Yezinki.

This site shows that superchargers are still available.....which should I go with?

http://www.ineedtoyotaparts.com/index3.htm

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#12 · (Edited)
Yes right hand drive.


I shall post more pics of the engine.....& any thing you would ask for like specs.


Thanks again Exage,

1. What’s the conclusion……is it wire or cable.........I had a feeling despite bein a med doc lol that it's drive by cable, although manufactured in 06.......does that make it simpler or more complex to install a supercharger?

2. I apologize………that is MAF sensor on the CAI pipe…….Piggy back, Greddy eManage, Apexi Power FC & SFC , & UNICHIP perform the same functions?

3. What are your personal views about SLR Ultimate performance chip…….to me looks like more of a scam…….SLR supposedly has similar functions to UNICHIP but the price is approx $70/ vs. $ 600/ for basic UNICHIP…..http://slrmotorsports.com/?

4. Flux with PDA is for personal engine testing…….where from can I buy it?

5. Higher pressure fuel pump & billet fuel rail makes sense.

6. In short what are ALL the components needed to install a Supercharger?

7. UNICHIP is strange, probably coz of its maps…….different for ones with & without turbo/superchargers……….again differ if both custom intake & exhaust are installed vs. stock………I think the gadget remains the same the difference is in the info stored in the chip, according to the stock vs. custom installs?

8. Where should I look for a super charger…….Are there any other reputable brands besides TRD or check eBay for a used one?

9. Why does UNICHIP only recommend K&N or Injen intakes…..cause their chip settings are according to them?

Yezinki.

Exage is it simpler to install & maintain a turbo or supercharger?


What are the main pros & cons of each?


What have you installed in your ride?

Yezinki.

This site shows that superchargers are still available.....which should I go with?

http://www.ineedtoyotaparts.com/index3.htm
1. Right hand drive explains why your car is drive by cable. It's not a North American spec Corolla... It is 100% drive by cable.

2. Yes that's correct. They perform the same function, what you listed are piggy back ECU programable units.

3. Never heard of it... If I ever decide to get a piggy back ECU I'm going with either a Apexi Power FC or Greddy e-Manage. Those are guarantied to work on the Corolla.

4. I assume online.

5. Yep!

6. Well it depends on how extreme. Supercharger, pulley, serpintine belt, fuel pump, fuel rail, larger injectors, piggy back ECU. These are the major components, there will be smaller ones that I missed. You'll need some time on the Dyno for tuning.

7. The chip is map tunable for different set ups. The maps will be all different for the different induction types.

8. I know that the Celica guys were using Greddy superchargers on the 1ZZ-FED. I don't see that supercharger on the Greddy site anymore. You could check e-Bay.

9. Doesn't matter which brand, any good CAI intake will do... like your Weapon R.

The supercharger will be easier. Both on install and engine maintence.

Well as posted above the supercharger is a easier install and cost less, and you'll get a noticable power increase with it.

The turbo will cost way more, however power out put isn't as limited with a turbo. Custom setups are very sick when they work out.

I haven't done anything performance wise to my ride except for the TRD brake pads.

On the wish list are: limited slip differential, 225/40-R18 wheel/tire set-up, black Injen CAI, Fidanza lightweight flywheel, performance clutch, Apexi Power FC, coilovers. Some of the goodies I want... most won't happen.
 
#11 ·
Yezinki, please refrain from posting multiple times in succession. I had to merge your posts again because of your quintuple and sextuple posts in row.

This is your second warning.


I am extremely sorry Mr. PhatRoyale.........not doing it on purpose just simply don't know how to post more than 1 pic in a reply?

Yezinki.
 
#13 ·
Good Morning Exage,

Thanks for answering all.

1. As for Piggy back which one would you go……..Apexi Power FC & hand controller or Greddy’s eManage Ultimate or UNICHIP………Apexi & eManage Ultimate doesn’t show Corolla……….I want to install one Piggy back the most suitable, best/versatile for 1 ZZFE?

2. Apexi Power FC replaces the stock ECU while UNICHIP & Greddy’s Ultimate don’t?

3. Any complementing gadgets to Greddy’s Ultimate………..I like UNICHIP cause they explain simply how it works , very suitable for 1 ZZ-FE 9th gen Corolla plus the FLUX with a PDA one can do I Dyno test in one’s own garage/house?

4. Did you check the SLR site to me looks more like a scam one I got into by buying a performance chip by Intricate performance racing worth $300/ plus 12 months back?

5. No company manufactures a super chargers for a 1ZZ-FE, 1.8L, M/T, cable driven throttle body…..waiting for a response from ………http://www.ineedtoyotaparts.com/index3.htm.

6. I would want you to have a look at my custom made CAI…..shall post pics ones I know how to insert a few in one reply lol……..gotta 2nd warning from PhatRoyale to CainsoRoyale which is me lmao.


Yezinki.
 
#15 ·
Thanks for the info Mr. PhatRoyale.

Yezinki.