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Tailgate Gator-Saver

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NOTE: GATER SAVERS ARE NO LONGER AVAILABLE. THANKS FOR YOUR INTEREST.


First and foremost, thank you to all of you for the inspiration and criticism in the new Tacoma Gator-Saver. For those that haven't followed the development, please read:
http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/showthread.php?t=170979


To answer some questions:
1. The panel will cost $225 plus shipping for all Toyota Nation members. If I market the panel further, the pricing will most likely be higher. If you would like it Line-X'd, the cost is $315.


2. At this point all of the panels will be powdercoated 30% gloss black or available raw ($12 savings). If you plan to bedline the panel yourself, I recommend getting it powdercoated for the protection of the inside surfaces against rust and abrasion. The powdercoat finish is much like plastic. Bedlining will take up too much space behind the panel to allow for proper fitment. The bedliner will stick to the powder without issue. I will include all Stainless Steel fasteners, complete color instructions and a steel cage nut to replace the factory hardware.


3. The stock cap and panel can be modified to fit on top of the panel. More information on this can be found:
http://xhadi.net/taco

And

http://toyotanation.com/forum/showpo...0&postcount=54


4. I will be selling the panel through the company I contract with, RoverTym Engineering (www.rovertym.com). The advantage to you is multifold. First, it allows me to offer you the protection of using a credit card. Second, RoverTym ships a great deal of product every month and our shipping rates and packaging costs are much lower than just running to a UPS store. This will insure a lower total cost for you (expect shipping to cost $30, give or take a little). Lastly, RoverTym is a well established company with much greater resources than my own. With their backing, I am able to manufacture these panels less expensively and with great efficiency and higher quality.

5. If you would like to order the panel, please contact me at RoverTym at 1.866.ROVERTM (768-3786).

Email is difficult for me to manage, as I'm not in front of a computer much during the day. All orders will be processed ASAP, however I will not charge a credit card until the day that I'm able to ship your panel.


If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to give me a ring or shoot me an email.


Thanks.
Seth Markowitz
Off Road Marketing

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#8 ·
msibille said:
Have you looked into how much weight the tailgate w/ Tailgator can hold?
Yeah!

Hey Seth, where are those pics of your 1,000lb polaris on this thing? :D
 
#9 ·
The panel, with 2 90* bends in .104" thick steel is EXTREMELY rigid.

As PT mentioned, I put my 250# neighbor on his 800+# Polaris 800 EFI and had him ride it up the back of the truck. As the pictures show, the panel held dead straight, but the cables stretched and the tailgate rolled on the hinges.
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I have run engineering numbers in a form that isn't useful in the real world (factors out the tailgate entirely and only give deflection number for the panel). In the real world, the panel appears to be stronger than the hardware that Toyota attachs the tailgate to the truck with.

I gotta mention though, that its just a tailgate. If you want to park a Pinto on it, bad things are gonna happen.
 
#11 ·
Someone should send this thread to Toyota headquarters. Toyota should spring for the cost of the TailGators for all of us.

Since when do trucks call for tailgates made of aluminum foil???
 
#12 ·
this will definatly be mod I will be purchasing. Just give me a couple weeks and I'm getting it.
 
#15 ·
theflavor said:
Not to doubt the strength of the new tailgate, but weren't almost all of the bent tailgates from something bouncing on the tailgate, rather than sustained weight?
i'm sure some where, but i'm sure some where from sustained weight. ie, motorcycles, etc. but i don't recall the exact stories of bent tailgates.
 
#16 ·
Sethmark said:
The panel, with 2 90* bends in .104" thick steel is EXTREMELY rigid.

As PT mentioned, I put my 250# neighbor on his 800+# Polaris 800 EFI and had him ride it up the back of the truck. As the pictures show, the panel held dead straight, but the cables stretched and the tailgate rolled on the hinges.

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I have run engineering numbers in a form that isn't useful in the real world (factors out the tailgate entirely and only give deflection number for the panel). In the real world, the panel appears to be stronger than the hardware that Toyota attachs the tailgate to the truck with.

I gotta mention though, that its just a tailgate. If you want to park a Pinto on it, bad things are gonna happen.
:thumbup: FREAKIN' AWESOME :clap:


Nice work -and "the proof is in the puddin'."
(Although, you never know when you may have to tow some
poor Dodge Hemi(roid) with the wheels off the ground.
Guess we can't use the tailgator for that.:D )
 
#17 ·
theflavor said:
Not to doubt the strength of the new tailgate, but weren't almost all of the bent tailgates from something bouncing on the tailgate, rather than sustained weight?

As I understood it from the posts on here it was when people were loading bikes or ATVs. Have yet to hear about someone's gate breaking while bouncing down the highway and sending the ATV off into traffic behind them.


Either way, is a 500lb bike bouncing a few inches really going to put more than 1000lbs of pressure on the gate? Ideally, it shouldn't be bouncing at all. It should be strapped down and moving with the truck over the bumps. It shouldn't be jumping up 6" as you cross a speed bump then slam into the tailgate. Of course if someone actually DOES that they're asking to break a tailgate! :lol:
 
#19 ·
I just drove-up to Seth's shop today to pick up my Gator-Saver. It took him about fifteen minutes total to remove the old panel and install the new one. I was really impressed with how well it fit and look, not to mention how solid it feels.

To anyone who ordered one: you won't be disappointed. :D Defintely worth the money.
 
#20 ·
Tom B said:
800#'s right smack in the middle is what's bending them. 500#'s on either end is not gonna bend them.
true, but for this to bend in the middle it'll have to crack the bend over the top of the tailgate, the bend Seth put in about 2" below the top, and maybe even the bend over the bottom edge. That's going to require a lot of force.


I also think it says something when Seth can support nearly the entire bed capacity on the tailgate. (total bed capacity is what? 1100lbs? 1300?)
 
#21 ·
If i had a harley, I'd load it. I have a Yamaha 250, but it ain't heavy enough for you guys! I have an Iron Horse, but its WAY to low to go into the back of a truck and also isn't heavy enough.

I guess I just don't have heavy enough toys! :D

Thanks to boydestruction for letting me use him as a test mule. I'm pleased to report that everything fit great with no surprises.
 
#24 ·
Sethmark said:
Richmond (Midlothian to be exact).... Give me a ring next week, if you're interested in coming by. I'm already through the first run of panels and are in the 2nd production run... so its gonna be another week before I can ship the 2nd batch.
So the second batch is going to ship around the 22? I might be able to scrap up some funds for one by next week.