Not gonna happen next year, maybe 2 or 3

General Motors (GM) Reports Total November Sales Up 6%, Retail Sales up 11%
12-01-2006 02:10:08 PM

General Motors (NYSE: GM) dealers in the United States sold 297,556 new cars and trucks in November, a 6%increase compared with last year.

Beginning with the 2007 model year in September, retail sales are up 13% and while retail sales for November were up 11% compared to a year ago.

Retail truck sales were up 17%, led by a 29% increase in large pickup retail sales such as Chevy Silverado and GMC Sierra and a 36% increase in luxury utility retail sales, including triple-digit retail increases for the entire Cadillac Escalade lineup.

At a time when fullsize vehicle sales are slow... that sure is a big increase considering GM already sells about 75,000 fullsize trucks a month on average....

 

^^ An analyst on CNBC agrees with you. They predicted QI 2009 when toyota would overtake GM. I don't know how exactly they came up Q1 '09, but in included price of crude (they expected it to fall in 07), recent performance by GM, truck sales (increasing in the 07 year), no major supply problems (gulf-hurricans). I think too many people have lost faith in GM, but GM will pounce back with good numbers in the coming years (not as good as toyota, but something that will delay the inevitable).

 

...................... but GM will pounce back with good numbers in the coming years (not as good as toyota, but something that will delay the inevitable).

Ofcourse they will.. What happened to GM/Chrysler in the 1970s/80s?

No big auto manufacturer is going anywhere.

 

It is funny how the size of those car makers is measured by the amount of cars produced. To put it to the extremes. Suppose DCX was the largest car maker in the world selling 10mil. Smarts, would Volkswagen then be smaller if it sold 9.9mil. Bugatti Veyrons?

I wonder which brand is the largest in the world. Is it Toyota or are there more Fords? I doubt it's Chevy because GM simply uses too many other brands instead in many places.

All I hope for is for us all to just let it pass by if Toyota sells most cars. It would be in the spirit of Toyota, but might be very hard to swallow for those who like that GM sells most.

 

I wonder which brand is the largest in the world. Is it Toyota or are there more Fords? I doubt it's Chevy because GM simply uses too many other brands instead in many places.

The Toyota pickup is the most ubiquitous vehicle in the world. You can find them, lots of them, in every single country worldwide. It cracked me up a few years ago seeing Ford wanting to develop a "world car". The "world" doesn't need cars. It needs trucks, and you won't find a Silverado or F150 too many places outside North America.

C

 

The Toyota pickup is the most ubiquitous vehicle in the world. You can find them, lots of them, in every single country worldwide. It cracked me up a few years ago seeing Ford wanting to develop a "world car". The "world" doesn't need cars. It needs trucks, and you won't find a Silverado or F150 too many places outside North America.

C

ABSOLUTELY !!!

I have lived in most parts of the world since my childhood cuz my dad worked for the United Nations and we moved from country to country..... i.e.. Yemen, Lebonan, Somalia, Kenya, Dijbouti, Malaysia, Thailand, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, all U.A.E states ..... and the list goes on..... and all I have ever seen is the Toyota pickup trucks... Some Nissan/Datsun and some Mazda's exists but very few.

Fuel Efficient + Durable

You should check out the harsh terrain these trucks have to face in many of these countries. Many of these trucks don't see paved roads for a long time. The place I loved was the Jabl-e-Sabr in Ta'iz, Yemen which is like the highest mountain there and the road SUCKED and it was so much fun driving up there. All rocks. Sometimes dad had a pickup and sometimes the 1977 Land Cruiser. Us kids were bouncing all over the place cuz it was so rocky and our speed was always like ZERO mph... I mean that country has no grass or tress for miles and all rocky mountains.

After coming back to USA, I am still searching for the rocks... where are the rocks? Where are those 1970s/80s Toyota pickups? :lol: Why is eveything paved? :lol:
May be when I retire, I will move to Arizona and the middle of nowhere or something. LOL !

Close to DEATH VALLEY somewhere...


Sorry.. Off topic... Corona67 just touched a button of mine....... :lol:

 

The "world" doesn't need cars. It needs trucks, and you won't find a Silverado or F150 too many places outside North America.C

This is mostly because the full-size truck is a very "American" product. You won't find many Tundras or Titans outside North America either.

 

^^ Correct. The purpose of trucks outside america is to haul stuff, not for individual comforts or to be used as a commuter vehicle. Most of the toyota trucks sold outside america are not lifted, have dual cabs (for rear passangers) and smaller beds. Anything bigger goes on the Hino platform.
Coming to the topic someone asked as to the most notable brand - i'd say toyota. I see them everywhere i go in the world.

 

That is also what I think (that Toyota sells most as a single brand), but all we hear about is how all those brands below GM together sell the most which is backed up by the numbers. Isn't there any figures that show how much the individual brands sell around the World?

It would also be interesting to see the figures for Chinese car makers.

 

This is mostly because the full-size truck is a very "American" product. You won't find many Tundras or Titans outside North America either.

But you will find the Tacoma/ Hi-Lux!

 

ABSOLUTELY !!!

I have lived in most parts of the world since my childhood cuz my dad worked for the United Nations and we moved from country to country..... i.e.. Yemen, Lebonan, Somalia, Kenya, Dijbouti, Malaysia, Thailand, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, all U.A.E states ..... and the list goes on..... and all I have ever seen is the Toyota pickup trucks... Some Nissan/Datsun and some Mazda's exists but very few.

Fuel Efficient + Durable

You should check out the harsh terrain these trucks have to face in many of these countries. Many of these trucks don't see paved roads for a long time. The place I loved was the Jabl-e-Sabr in Ta'iz, Yemen which is like the highest mountain there and the road SUCKED and it was so much fun driving up there. All rocks. Sometimes dad had a pickup and sometimes the 1977 Land Cruiser. Us kids were bouncing all over the place cuz it was so rocky and our speed was always like ZERO mph... I mean that country has no grass or tress for miles and all rocky mountains.

After coming back to USA, I am still searching for the rocks... where are the rocks? Where are those 1970s/80s Toyota pickups? :lol: Why is eveything paved? :lol:
May be when I retire, I will move to Arizona and the middle of nowhere or something. LOL !

Close to DEATH VALLEY somewhere...


Sorry.. Off topic... Corona67 just touched a button of mine....... :lol:

Wow! What an amazing way to grow up!

You got it right; if you want to bounce your rig off big rocks again you do need to head out west. Need to find some Bureau of Land Management backroads trails. Arizona and Utah are great, and we've got at least one trail here in Oregon that's pretty cool (from what I hear).

A few years ago I saw a PBS show on a fellow who was literally retracing the conquests of Alexander the Great. He went all over central Asia, often commenting on how difficult the travel was in those days; camels, horses, wagons etc. Yet when this fellow hitchhiked anywhere, in any country, it was in the back of a Toyota pickup. It cracked me up that he never mentioned this...

C

 

But you will find the Tacoma/ Hi-Lux!

Don't forget 4Runner/FJCruiser/Prado!

C

(Or Land Cruiser, of course!)

 

Don't forget 4Runner/FJCruiser/Prado!

C

(Or Land Cruiser, of course!)

The Prado 3 door is the world's FJ Cruiser basically. The Toyota Harrier (RX330) and the Landcruiser Cygnus (LX470).

http://www.batfa.com/photo-newcar-landcruisercygnus-front.htm
http://www.batfa.com/photo-newcar-landcruisercygnus-rear.htm
http://www.batfa.com/photo-newcar-landcruisercygnus-cockpit.htm

Best part,... "Most" COME in STICK SHIFTS.....

 

Uh, this is a good thing. Right?

 

Their was an article in yesterday's Post of a Toyota/Chrysler dealer and that they sell allot more Toyota's then Chrysler's

Here is an article from Det News about Toyota projecting to pass GM in 2007
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061222/UPDATE/612220439/1148/rss25

 

Their was an article in yesterday's Post of a Toyota/Chrysler dealer and that they sell allot more Toyota's then Chrysler's

Here is an article from Det News about Toyota projecting to pass GM in 2007
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061222/UPDATE/612220439/1148/rss25

Toyota, which passed up Ford Motor Co. as the world's No. 2 automaker in 2003, also painted a bright picture of sales in 2007.

^^ I don't know how many times I have seen people DENY that Toyota hasn't overtaken Ford yet... :lol: