another option is the A pillar, get two sided tape, and play them in various locations, I liked then in the kick location, but others prefer the A pillar off axis.

 

the a pillar pretty much requires fiberglassing correct? but how does it stick to the plastic, do you have to make a whiole new pillar. Do you ever have to deal with debris getting to your tweet down there?
I was also thinking about putting the rear tweets in the c pillars, it might sound like shit for the rear passengers, but it would be the ideal place as far as the front passangers. any thoughts?

 

he is talking about the tape just to see where YOU like them the best. Its going to depend on the compostion of your tweeter for ideal placement, if its a metallic dome tweeter, i suggest staying away from the a-pillar off axis, the refractions can get pretty ear-piercing. As for rear tweets, you want them as off axis as possible. Tweeters play the most DIRECTIONAL of all sound waves, if their placement is in sight of your ear, it will kill your sound staging all together. Tweeters btw are the most efficient speakers due to there small size and lack of total movement. You can 99.9% of the time get away with no tweeters in the rear at all? Any other suggestions eddie?

 

you would pull the plastic trim along the A pillar off, cut a hole and mount the tweeter flush, so I dont think you would need to fiberglass anything.

 

I'm going to rip the dash apart when I get home to do more deadening so I'll peep the insides of the a pillars for space. Thanks for the help.
Have you heard of putting the tweeters any where else? I was thinking about maybe on the center console, low, down by the accelerator. any thoughts on that?

 

Direction is very crucial, so I would not recommend it, do you have silk or metal?

 

silk, it wa just a fleeting thought, I want sq first and foremost, but I also like asthetics and originallity, I'll try the kicks first and then experiment if needed

 

actually with a soft dome tweeter like that the A piller may become the optimum spot for placement

 

for best results...

Tweeter should be mounted as high as possible for best results. The reason is because the sound is very directional and they sound the best on axis. Another option beside a pillars would be to mount them on the dashboard by the front windshield. That way the sound would reflect off the windshield and would yield good results.

 

When I installed my tweeters on my new components, I did a surface mount instal over the plate that covers the screws holding the sideview mirrors. They actually sound pretty good there.

If you want install pics, here's the forum with my install how-to for a '98 Camry.
http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/t52158.html

 

I had a correspondence with an IASCA winner who ran tweets in his A-pillar and 6.5's in his kicks. He ran his set-up with the tweets crossed over in the 5khz range and his 6.5's from up there yonder all the way down to 50 hz. That requires a Midbass/Midrange speaker that can handle 6-7 octaves! I think Scot Buwalda ran his 280 like that too. They were using Focal and MB Quart drivers, respectively.

 

so is the consensus (sp) for A pillars on or off axis?

 

Yeah well scott runs his irridiums down to 31 Hz! this is a 6.5" speaker. Well whenever I decide to run my 3 ways, im going 6.5" 63-400Hz, midrange 500-4K and tweet 5K and up fully active.

 

Every A pillar tweet I've seen is off axis, actually pointing towards each other, running along the windshield. I would imagine an on axis tweeter being too bright.

eddiem67, where are you going to stick your speakers?

 

My '97 had factory tweets in the sail panel. I changed everything out for a Fusion set in the factory locations. The stage was not very high or in front. I couldn't play too much with angles as the panel openings/grilles faced into the centre of the interior and didn't have much room to adjust. If they could have faced each other more it may have been better.

My next install I put cdt tweets in the kicks and a second set on the a-pilars thru a L-pad. I did run just the kick tweets for a couple weeks and the stage lift right up and spread accross the dash much better than the sail panel mount. The a-pilar tweets just made it better again.
I have pics if you want.

 

yeah, please post pics, it would be very helpful. when you had the tweets in the kicks,were there also tweets in the a pillars, or did you move them? one or two sets of tweets?

 

Two sets of tweets. First set in the kicks for a couple weeks then added a second set on the a-pilars.

The a-pilar tweets are pretty much facing each other. The kic tweets are aimed more or less toword the centre of the cabin ceiling. They all swivel in their base to play with.

 

nice, thanks for the pics, I like the kicks a lot. I unfortunaltely have to g oa pillar, behind my kick panel are a lot of fuses and relays and I don't line to mess with electrical stuff. I wish I had deeper kicks, but my momo tweets also swivel, so I'll find a spot wit hthe double sided tape and then fine tune with the surface mount bracket, should be good when my wires finally arrive

 

Do you have an Avalon, or is it just in your name. The tweets really do not take much room in kick. I didn't have to move any of the stock wires and boxes that are behind there. And this is a Camry, so the Avalon wouldn't be any smaller I think.

Now my a-pilars were another story. I couldn't flush them in without a nice fg job that I don't have the skills for yet. So I surface mounted them. Maybe in the future.

 

the avalon is wierd, it has reallt narrow kicks to allow for my legroom, it's nice in the room respect, but really limits car audio upgardes, what ere they thinking

 

eddiem67, where are you going to stick your speakers?

6.5 in doors, mids in kicks and tweets in kicks, possible to a pillar, but I will tune first then see if I need to move tweets up.