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Two kinds of Destination A/T's at same size 265/75/16 differences?

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#1 ·
I recently call the firestone dealer they said they had two kind of A/T's in size 265/75/16. One which i s LT which they recommend goes for 159.99$ The other is a just Pmetric for 120.99$. I heard the 159.99$ is for offroading. He couldn't really give me a quick description cause they didn't have them in stock. Can any tell if they look the same and what's the primary difference?
 
#2 ·
I bet its the load range. One is a "D" I bet and one is a "C" Just a guess. D is 10 ply c is 6 ply.
 
#4 · (Edited)
Just to give a little more detail...

The P's aren't even C-rated. They're Passenger tires - not meant to take any kind of abuse beyond carrying the unladen (or passenger-only-laden) vehicle around town on well-established roads. Pmetric tires have thin sidewalls that (1) puncture easily and (2) can't support much weight. If you take your truck offroad at all, even on logging/fire roads, I'd suggest the LT tires. LTs are less likely to be punctured in the sidewall by rocks, roots, and sticks. Likewise, if you regularly put more than, say, 400lbs in the bed of your truck, go with the LTs. Pmetric tires aren't designed to support any kind of payload, again due to the thin sidewalls.

In summary, the Pmetric tires probably look identical to the LT tires, but they don't perform identically. If you don't need your tires to do what the LT offers over the P, get the Ps.
 
#5 ·
Shit lol, this is one of those.. 4x4 or 4x2 type of decision. I just want to use my truck like a regular truck is meant to. Regular driving & sometimes when the time comes... some load/hauling / towing. Maybe a tad a bit off roading. I'm still a student tho. You guys think I should go with the LT's?

Once again I'm a student I tried my best not to fork out too much unless if it's necessary.
 
#11 ·
Soul;I work for B-F at the plant in South Carolina and build these tires everyday.My advice;go with the Bridgestone Dueler Revos w/the load rating you need.You will love these tires,but first go to tire rack.com and read reviews on these and comparables tires to help in your decision.The Revos are one of the best all around AT's available,you won't be disappointed.
 
#16 ·
I'm glad to hear this, especially when it come's from a guy who builds them. I've had my Revo2's for a liitle over 3K miles now, including 3 blizzards in 4 weeks time. These tires have exceeded my every expectation. I should not, that my expectations are rather high, considering my last 5 sets of tires have been the BFG AT KO's.

Two days ago, I was trying to get into my neighborhood after the last blizzard. Took the same path in as coming out, but didn't realize the road had drifted over with about 30-40 inches of hard packed snow. I had a pretty good head of steam, expecting to bust through what I though was fluffy snow. Wrong! I buried my truck into snow that was so deep, I had a hard time opening my door. I initially tried to back out, and just sunk deeper. A neighbor with a jeep tried to back down my path, to hook a strap, and never even made it within 75 feet of me.

After a few minutes, I decided to just pop it in 4Lo and see if I couldn't get myself out. I did activate my A-Trac, never bothered locking the rear. My Revo2's dug right in, andf I'll be damned if I didn't start crawling out. In a matter of seconds, I was back on solid ground. Couldn't believe the tires had pulled me out, considering I was buried past my axles.

Anyways, I had looked at the Destiations prior to getting my Revo2's. Glad I spent the extra money, and went with the LT rated Revo2. One thing to consider as well, LT rated tires have a slightly greater tread depth over a comaparable Pmetric. Look at the difference in specs at Tire Rack. 3/32nd's might not seem like a big difference on paper, but it makes a difference when looking at them side by side. JM2CW.
 
#12 ·
It is my understanding that you should be perfectly setup with a P metric tire. The load rating is 2271lbs on the specific tire that you are looking at which means that the max load with four tires is 8268lbs with a 9% decrease due to differences between car and truck ratings. The GVWR of the tacoma is 5350lbs and the GCWR (Combined when towing) is 8100lbs or 11100lbs(tow package while towing max load of 6500lbs). So by the looks of it unless you are towing the max load of your Tacoma on a regular basis you will not be anywhere close to the max load rating of those tires or any P metric tire. Toyota produced the truck with a P metric tire due to the fact that the Tacoma is a midsize truck that does not require a LT tire due to weight constraints of the truck and its payload. Unless you are going to be doing some serious offroading where a sidewall puncture is a possibility I wouldnt spend the extra $160 +/-. Just my opinion and understanding of tires. Please correct me if I am wrong.
 
#13 ·
I have the Destination AT's in a 265/70/17. I opted for P over LT because of the weight/mileage differences. I use my truck for work, which means always having a couple hundred pounds of tools-- including a fiberglass tonneau-- in the bed and putting in a lot of miles on the highway (upwards of 1k a week). There's also the occasional offroading when sites are out in fields or even on top of hills/mountains, where rocks are so big, you have to crawl and if you're not patient, you wind up needing an alignment like I did. :facepalm:

The tires have held up fine, noticeably outperforming the stock joints I replaced them with. I expect to get the full life out of them, if not more. I'll probably get another set-- especially if I can get them for 99/each-- unless something else jumps out at me (those Falken High Country's are looking pretty nice). The stats between these and the Revo 2s aren't so far apart that it may be worth the additional cost, being that you're a student and all.
 
#14 ·
I've got 12K on my P-metrics and they have performed well including hauling bed fulls of dirt and light trailer duty. My only complaint is a lack of wet traction when bed's empty.
 
#15 ·
Torque, you are most likely going to have so-so traction with any tire on wet pavement. All the weight of the tacoma is in the front so it throws off the weight distribution alot. The tacoma must be 65%F and 35%R in the weight distribution category. Thats why I keep 200# of sand in the bed during the winter because the roads up here are always wet.