26199(OTD) silva SE with Entune Navi, alarm system & carpet Mat

 

Camry SE i4 nav/entune, mats, net, dim mirror, sun roof.. sticker price 27,120... We paid sticker price, got 0% financing, and decent money for trade in 2006 Tacoma.

 

$21285 LE I-4.
Power seat, floor mats, vehicle shield.
more than I expected for my trade and 3.2% APR for 60 month.

 

You ended up buying one after all that? :facepalm:



We are giving them away already. $1000 under at least.

 

My 2012 Camry SE V6 came with every option and had an MSRP of $31,040. That included destination and carpeted floormats. I ended up getting it for $28,600, before taxes, title, etc.

 

i got the SE v6 base option (no JBL sound.etc) $30,000 Canadian dollar, before tax. total of $35,000 after tax and every administration fees

(including some free door side protectors, anti theft system, spare floor mats, and some they called "diamondcoat" thingy they sprayed on the car, but i think these free stuff are a negligible cost for dealers)

So it is cheaper to buy one in your place eh? did you buy yours in the United States? Just curious.:dunno:


-dian

 

You ended up buying one after all that? :facepalm:

Yep. Too poor to buy what I like.

We are giving them away already. $1000 under at least.

:lol:
good for you. but to me it smells like BS.
plus sale price never important, I'm worried about trade difference.

p.s. Were in MA you at?
My buddy was in Attleboro and Warwick couple days ago, they got no more than 10-12 new Camry’s on the lots, $500 off and both dealers tried to f... him on his trade.

 

Yep. Too poor to buy what I like.



:lol:
good for you. but to me it smells like BS.
plus sale price never important, I'm worried about trade difference.

p.s. Were in MA you at?
My buddy was in Attleboro and Warwick couple days ago, they got no more than 10-12 new Camry’s on the lots, $500 off and both dealers tried to f... him on his trade.

I'm on the north shore. Your friend went to boch and couldn't get it below invoice?? What's his trade?

I'm not bs at all.

 

I'm on the north shore. Your friend went to boch and couldn't get it below invoice?? What's his trade?

I'm not bs at all.

$500 all they can take off the sticker, atleast manager told him so.
he got 07 LE base 90+K miles. he got offered $8000.

 

You think 8k for that car is bad?? What are we going to do with that rat?

If we got lucky, that car would retail for 10 grand. It's got 90 thousand freaking miles :lol:

I sell 07 LE's with half the miles for 12-13k.

I'd probably be able to do the 8k, but $500 off window is a joke. He's not from my PMA, so I'd probably go $500 under invoice for him on an in stock car.

 

You think 8k for that car is bad?? What are we going to do with that rat?

If we got lucky, that car would retail for 10 grand. It's got 90 thousand freaking miles :lol:

I sell 07 LE's with half the miles for 12-13k.

I'd probably be able to do the 8k, but $500 off window is a joke. He's not from my PMA, so I'd probably go $500 under invoice for him on an in stock car.

so how much LE with power seat, vehicle shield and mats would run him?
p.s. I got $9500 for mine 2007 with 85K and some paint work.
his car is spotless.

 

$21,600 plus tax, tag, title and $325 doc. What's vehicle shield? I bet i've got something like that under a different name.

Edmunds "clean" on that car is $7966. If you got $9500, that's insane high, at least for this region.

 

Yeah, they'll likely lose money on that one.

 

$21,600 plus tax, tag, title and $325 doc. What's vehicle shield? I bet i've got something like that under a different name.

Edmunds "clean" on that car is $7966. If you got $9500, that's insane high, at least for this region

is it for LE with mats?
you said you can do 1K less than I paid...
21600 is $315 more...and I got "insane high" for my trade.

Edmunds don't sell or buy cars. KBB, Edmunds etc.-nobody. NADA is more or less straight, but rest of them-BS.
I looked auction lists, 07 camry with 90K doing more than 8 grand in TX and MA.
more like 9-10.5.
difference between TX and MA $300-400 at the most.

vehicle shield- paint and interior protection. list price $ 379 or so.

 

is it for LE with mats?
you said you can do 1K less than I paid...
21600 is $315 more...

Edmunds don't sell or buy cars. KBB, Edmunds etc.-nobody. NADA is more or less straight, but rest of them-BS.
I looked auction lists, 07 camry with 90K doing more than 8 grand.
difference between TX and MA probably $300-400 at the most.

vehicle shield- 5 years paint and interior protection. list price $ 379 or so.

Please go back and re-read my post. When and where did I say I'd do 1k less than you paid? I said I'd go as far as 1k under. "Under" means invoice, sorry if that was confusing. He is not from my PMA, so $500 under is where I'd like to be. "Vehicle Shield" would be extra.

I like how, when the edmunds/kbb is higher for the trade than I can offer....all hell breaks loose and I have to say "kbb/edmunds don't buy cars"....but when they actually do get it right....I get the same speech in return :lol:

Usually when people try to pull the auction numbers on me I simply offer to auction the car, and pay back the net difference if it's higher. Of course, if it's lower you must refund me. Keep in mind auction fees. Do you think he would accept this?

 

Yeah, they'll likely lose money on that one.

I've been told they still made some $ on me.
I"ll send some business to the sales guy, so me, "the boss" and sales person-all are very happy people!

 

I've been told they still made some $ on me.
I"ll send some business to the sales guy, so me, "the boss" and sales person-all are very happy people!

I didn't say they'd lose money on the deal, I said they'd likely lose money on the trade-in. Many times a dealer will put too much money into a trade either in hopes of making money on the back end or if they know they can make money on the back end.

 

Please go back and re-read my post. When and where did I say I'd do 1k less than you paid? I said I'd go as far as 1k under. "Under" means invoice, sorry if that was confusing. He is not from my PMA, so $500 under is where I'd like to be.

I was thinking you talking about 1K under my price.

Usually when people try to pull the auction numbers on me I simply offer to auction the car, and pay back the net difference if it's higher. Of course, if it's lower you must refund me. Keep in mind auction fees. Do you think he would accept this?

but you do sell cars at auction. so you'll make your $500-700 or more anyway.
if you'll sell on the lot-couple grand, maybe bit less.

people like honest deal: fair money for my wheels and best offer for new car.
I woreked for dealer, you still do, we both know dealer nevr will loose $ on brand new model, especially toyota, especially camry.

"Vehicle Shield" would be extra

I knew that. all depend how much extra?

 

I was thinking you talking about 1K under my price.


but you do sell cars at auction. so you'll make your $500-700 or more anyway.
if you'll sell on the lot-couple grand, maybe bit less.

people like honest deal: fair money for my wheels and best offer for new car.
I woreked for dealer, you still do, we both know dealer nevr will loose $ on brand new model, especially toyota, especially camry.


I knew that. all depend how much extra?

We are not going to make $5-7 hundred auctioning a car like that. We would likely try to retail it, probably end up buried in it as I'm sure it needs a ton of work.

We lost $4000 on a trade last week, so never say never. We have numbers we need to meet, so as long as we can keep averages above cost we do take losses on new cars.

"Simonize" as my F&I manager calls it, is $595 for a 7 year plan.

 

I didn't say they'd lose money on the deal, I said they'd likely lose money on the trade-in. Many times a dealer will put too much money into a trade either in hopes of making money on the back end or if they know they can make money on the back end.

I would say no.
used cars prices are up these days.
clean camry even with some paint job and 100K - pretty popular car.

but like I said, all people involved in my deal are happy.
I didn't waist their time (in and out in 30 min + finance dept time), they moved onother unit, they already got my car on the lot (wondering how much they asking? ), they are the best toyota dealer around for good reason.

"Simonize" as my F&I manager calls it, is $595 for a 7 year plan.

I would pass on it.

 

I would pass on it.

:cursin:

 

No, KBB values are inflated these days. Camrys are a dime a dozen and there are tens of thousands of LE's to compare to.

But I am glad you are happy with your purchase!

 

Camrys are a dime a dozen and there are tens of thousands of LE's to compare to.

I agree. but camry still on of the most popular used cars.
and nice, clean, camry with no mechanical problems still good buy and they never cheap.

But I am glad you are happy with your purchase!

thanks. but unfortunately it is not what I wanted to buy.

don't get me wrong, new camry is very nice car and way better than most competitors, but it is not what I was hoping to get.

like I said somewhere above, certain circumstances, good $ for my trade, great discount,
good resale value and MPG took over.
I bought gen.6 camry because I liked it, I bougt this one because of other reasons.
and I say something else: after driving it for a week, I like it even more.
so far only couple real "issues" with new camry: you can't manually open trunk with key, parking brake should've been positioned higher and more to the left-like on V40 and headlights are weak.

 

Open your back drivers door, tell me if you hear a weird clicking sound from the handle. Thats the only issue Ive noticed on them.

Send your friend to me, I'll mail you a $100 gift card good at my dealership. It's only a 29 hour drive.

 

Open your back drivers door, tell me if you hear a weird clicking sound from the handle. Thats the only issue Ive noticed on them.

nothing weird. at least so far.

Send your friend to me, I'll mail you a $100 gift card good at my dealership.

you miles away from his numbers. it doesn't look like a deal.
but I'll let him know anyway.

 

Alrighty. Why doesn't he just put his Camry on craigslist if he wants that much more for it?

 

Alrighty. Why doesn't he just put his Camry on craigslist if he wants that much more for it?

he wants to trade it, not to sell it.
if you ever tried to sell a car on your own, I'm sure you know the difference.

 

He doesn't want to put the time, effort, and aggravation of selling his 100k mile Camry for 10 grand....so he wants us to do it for free? :facepalm:

8k is a fair number on trade, remember he gets the sales tax credit too another $500 or so. He's buying our car at wholesale price, why does he expect retail for his? (Insert another over used car sales cliche here to close deal).

Fair enough?

 

Yeah, you always get more by selling it private party and you usually don't have to wait that long. Longest I've waited when selling a car on craigslist (and I've sold 5 of my own cars there) was a week. You don't have to be that patient to wait a week.

 

He doesn't want to put the time, effort, and aggravation of selling his 100k mile Camry for 10 grand....so he wants us to do it for free? :facepalm:

. that exactly what I've been told at VW dealership week ago, after 1.5 hrs. negotiation they offered me $8250.
guess what, I didn't buy passat.

He's buying our car at wholesale price, why does he expect retail for his?

I bet you your dealer got poster "huge savings on 2012 Camry +top $ for your trade" and balloons flying around.

some dealer prefer to sell more cars but make less per unit.
more you sell, more and cheaper you buy cars.
in the end, some dealers make more, some less.

Fair enough?

absolutely.
I'll let you know how much he paid and how much he get for his trade.

if not, there is always an option:
he bought his 2009 Venza here in Dallas. of course he drove back 1400 miles, but he saved few $ to keep him happy on that long trip.
if difference will be big enough he might make this trip again on his new Camry.

 

Sure, let me know. Just be sure to find out how much aftersell he bought to make up the loss difference.

We actually don't have balloons, and have no such advertising. I'm at a top 10 dealer in the region, we wouldn't be there if we were trying to hold gross on everyone.

 

Bought a Camry SE fully loaded in Puerto Rico was $34,975 minus my 07 Camry XLE trade in when down to $26,975. My trade in was $11,000 and I owed my bank $3,000 so its was $8 g down on my new SE. Will be paying 20 dollars less a month than my prior one.
The color is pretty tight too. It's light grey metallic
Mine got 6.1 screen with 3D GPS and Entune
8 Way power driver's seat
Moonroof
Auto-Diming Rear View Mirror with Compass
Home link Buttons
Carpet Mats
Shield Package
Leather and Cloth Seats
Paddle Shifters on Steering Wheels
18" Wheels
HD Radio

 

Got back from the dealer tonight:

2012 SE 4cyl
Nav + Entune
8-way power driver's seat
Moonroof
auto-dimming rear view mirror with compass
premium carpet mats
Vehicle shield package

MSRP $27,102
- $2352 (Toyota rebates plus dealer discount)
- $1000 College student discount

Price paid: $23,750. The dealer included window tint to match OEM at no cost, which would have added $275 to the MSRP had it been listed as an option, so taking that into account, I paid $23,475 for the car compared with Camry's that already have the tint

 

Dude, MAToyotaSales is right. He will def hook it up, I know some people are paying $28,000 for a SE V6 that has an MSRP of $31,040.

great price.
but price is absolutely unimportant, but trade difference is.
MAToyotaSales can not touch trade difference my friend looking for.
He might be wrong, might be right, but it sure wont be a deal.

 

Christ Himself couldn't make the ACV of a 100k mile 07 Base Camry more than 8 grand. Anyone who offers more than that is simply taking gross out of the new car. I can however use 4 $250 closing coupons to bring it up to 9k, but we save those for PMA customers.

 

Definitely pays to shop around

+100

or know new cars manager or his assistant...
(saves time vs shopping around )