Short answer: yes, you may wanna think regearing, you may rub on sharp turns and/or hard compression.

 

you think it would be better if i went with 35s instead?

 

35's or 36's doesn't matter much, you'll still need to regear the diffs.
And if you really wheel it, pick up a spare front CV shaft or two.

 

is it a must that i regear the diffs if i would only take the truck out on the weekends? and also you think the 36s would fit under my truck and not rub

 

Oh yeah, they will probably rub some.
It doesn't matter if you drive it only on weekends or everyday, it's still going to be a strain to turn that tall a tire with stock gearing.

 

so you think i should go with the 35s?

 

I have 4 susp 3 body on 36's, you absolutely want to regear from the 4.10s for anything over 33's

 

do you rub on the road or when your turning or anything?

 

Its never rubbed on the street, even with a full payload in the bed.

I did rub one time on the trail, but the steering was at full lock and the truck was pretty twisted up on a rock and the tire caught the edge of the inner fender.

If I had a sas I'd probably have to go down a size.

 

ok so if you were in my position would you go with the 35s or the 36s..i think i would be fine with the 36s cause my rims are 15s and i see that yours are 16.5 and youve said that you have never rubbed

 

well you got two topics going with different intent, in this thread I'd say 35's would be perfect, 36's are a little to big depending on the tread design.

BUT in your other thread I said stay on 33's for the cost.

 

Hope you save up for front end parts when everything decides to not work anymore..

 

why do you say that

 

That post was so insightful please elaborate.

 

Well if you actually wheel hard, or at all you'll learn pretty quickly that pretty much every component of your steering starts falling apart and failing miserably.. Think about it you're going from a factory 29 to 31" tire, to a 36" tire.. a 9 something inch wide to 12 to 14" wide tire.. You don't think that shit puts stress on things? I'm running 33's which aren't all that much bigger over stock and I'm going through shit..

Think about things in the long term - if you want to wheel hard you'll want a front locker.. Which puts more stress on axles especially when turning.. Now put 36" tires ontop of that .. Get ready for rear axles to break as well..

That is, if either of you guys actually wheel ...

 

All very true.
To be clear my truck is not a DD, and I am slowly graduating from puddle jumping to trail riding.

But as with anything you have to pay to play, after you fix one thing the next thing in line will break.

 

tis true. even just driving on road will wear out the idler arm if you dont brace it or replace it with a beefier one. axleike on yotatech had to pretty much redo his whole steering set up to take wheeling ifs with 35's. as a rule seems like most people say to stay 33 or under on stock ifs. i have 33-9.5's and i wear parts out much faster then when i had stock size tires. and you def want to save up to regear. thats no question. 33's are the absolute limit imo for stock gears in a 4.10 equipped truck. My low range is not even close to low enough anymore and my truck is a joke on pavement.

 

the way I see it is you need to have an end goal with your truck .. My end goal is some day have a long travel suspension equipped rig, possibly a tacoma rear axle for the extra width, e-locker and LSD up front, and 33's or maybe slightly bigger but nothing extreme.. That all lets me stick with stock axles (T100's and Tacomas) which are easy to find, compared to chromo stuff.. I don't need to replace everything every 30 seconds as I'm not going to be racing or taking 10 foot jumps or anything like that .. I just want more travel and a comfortable ride..

Now, if you want a monster truck the best and strongest way to go about it is a solid axle, and possibly 3 and 4 links.. If you want a fully locked, 36" tire, huge lift trail truck a SAS'd truck with 5.29's or 5.71's would be your best bet and you'll still break shit - often - but whenever you do it's easy to fix with aftermarket stuff and you should start reducing breakages when you get everything changed with beefier parts..

Now if you just want to look super big you'll break shit with IFS and if you haven't yet you will and if you doubt that try and really bag your truck and see what happens ... It's harder to break stuff with open diffs btw .. but it's harder to go far with open diffs.

To me with regearing I noticed a massive increase from 4.10's to 4.56's - I didn't have the option to go 4.88's as I don't want to pay for gears, I just bought the diffs from under a V6.. When i find 4.88 diffs kicking around I'll scoop them up but for the time being the 4.56's are just fine with my 22re and 33x12.5's.. A quick, easy, and cheap upgrade from 4.10's is 4.56's from a V6, or if you get lucky, 4.88's from an auto 4runner with the 31" tire package from like 91 and above.. My truck isn't fast by any means but it isn't struggling to go everywhere either.. 4.88's would make it perfect to me but that hasn't been an option yet..

 

Another top notch post, and I think this thread is adding far more value than just a "yes they will fit" which isnt the complete answer. So thanks for that Exist.

I started out on 33's ATs and loved the ride, but hated not having a locking diff... I waited for a deal on 4.88s to pop up but lucked out and found a used set up with 5.29's and lockers so I was kind of forced to go with 35/36's to match the gears.

Like you said, if the right gears pop up I would consider going back down.

The current plan right now is to build a beach/mud truck that will do moderate trail riding while still keeping the truck in great shape because I want it to be turn key ready to drive and I plan on owning it for a long time. When these tires are done, or if I find a deal I will probably go with 35 BFG AT's

My long term goal will eventually be an aluminum chevy V6 swap, rock bumpers/side guards, winch, and SAS with LT.

 

sorry if im butting heads but i ran 38's on my toyota with stock gears for a year.... never broke anything and it was my daily driver. before that i was running 36 iroks and they were on for a little over a year. i ran the truck to the ground and the only things that were breaking were my brake lines... due to rust. now understand you are not going to go on the highway, or do anytype of line take offs in the truck, but as far as it ruining your truck? dont let gears and ifs scare you man, run the truck and have fun with it. just remember it aint a tank and you will be fine.

 

I dont think you are butting heads, two things stand out.

1. you ran 38's with stock gears, other than not getting out of its own way and having to down shift on every hill, you probably didnt have enough torque to break anything.
2. All pavement driving is a lot different than rock climbing, or even puddle jumping.

I agree that gears shouldn't be scary, but there is some money involved to get it set up right.

 

haha sorry boss but ive beat on my truck more than you would think. ask any veteran on this site and they all know ive beat the shit out of my truck. with the ifs lift and 36's ive out ran any jeep i have ever come in contact with. and as far as going fast, gotta remember this aint no mr2. its a truck if you want to go fast buy a civic.

 

I think you missed the point I was trying to make, I have no idea what you have or have not done but a truck that has only seen pavement or has stock gears would be a lot less prone to breaking.

And for the record I would definitely not buy a civic to go fast, that's what motorcycles are for.

 

my point is if its his weekend driver and hes trying to have fun. let him just lift the shit out of it. as long as you know how to drive it he will be fine. just have fun with the thing!

 

Agreed. :thumbsup:

 

93 : I'd like to know what you've done to your truck actually, might help everyone to know what youve broken / made stronger etc.. If you have open diffs front/rear it's harder to break stuff than if you're fully locked etc..

 

I have ran 35's & 36's for the last 8 years. It is my daily driver, only play on the weekends. I have 529 gaers with a rear grizzly locker. I havent broke anything,, yet.. Like the others said, its not a tank, just have some common since and have fun. Its a TOYOTA, they are tough.:thumbsup: