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01' Avalon idling problem

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#1 ·
Sup ya'll happy Avalons lovers? I have a question. I have an 01' Avalon that idles under 500RPM at start up. Sometimes it just dies at startup if I don't give it a little gas. Everything is fine after I drive it for awhile. But after I turn off the engine and then turn it on after 30 minutes or so, it idles that low again. This symptoms just started a couple of days ago. The air filter is clean, hoses are O.k. The car has over 157 thousand miles already. Thanks in advance for any replies.

tony
 
#7 ·
Yeah the IAC comes right to mind for me. If you're not mechanically inclined, ask the man to clean your Idle Air Control Motor. It's about a $20 job, and well worth the effort.
There is a part that moves back and forth quickly to adjust your idle at a pre determined level. The idle should be rock steady because the the little part moves so the idle doesn't. Dirt from air and fuel over 150k and it may need cleaning/ replacement.
 
#9 ·
No, the build up is an oil/grime type. The valve has a little electric motor to move the valve. The IAC would need to be removed, then cleaned. The Toyota service manual has the info to remove the valve. Don’t use any solvents that can damage plastic such as brake cleaner. A Google search will turn up numerous hits with photos of cleaning an IAC valve.
 
#32 · (Edited)
For a complete step by step how to, see this discussion in the Lexus forums:
http://us.lexusownersclub.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=30723&hl=iacv

Different vehicle but same engine. The layout might be a bit different in the Avalon but this will at least point you to the major parts. I suspect everything is the same.
- Thanks for posting this link. I have a 2001 Avalon, 132k mi.

Symptoms: rough idle, CEL, off-idle stumble. minor stumble on highway when entering power enrichment.

It was time for plugs and fuel filter anyway, so I did that - - no change. Did the IAC Valve cleanout procedure as recommended in the link, and the car runs like new again.

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EDIT:
Problem resumed within 20 miles of driving. Took the IAC valve apart again and found some binding on the rotating shaft. I figured this was due to cleaning solvents removing lubricant from the shaft bearing. Lubed the bearing until shaft rotated freely and reinstalled. Good to go again. For about 10 miles, then the rough idle and part-throttle stumble returned. Jumper test on Diagnostic port showed primary IAC to be bad.Installed new Toyota valve and actuator. No change. Wasted $200 on this new part.

All plugs have less than 500 mi. Going to pull them next and look for excessive carbon or fuel (bad coil), or lack of combustion evidence (bad injector).

Will report back.
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EDIT:
Passenger side rear plug showed sooty buildup. Other plugs clean. I re-checked the plugs I replaced (I always put them in the new plug boxes and mark location) and the plug that was in that cylinder prior to replacement was more sooty than others also. Looked like a weak coil (failed coil would leave moist residue). Replaced the coil (Autozone Duramax box contained a Denso Toyota part identical to the OEM on the vehicle) and car runs like new again. Will report back only if situation changes.

Could this have been the only issue all along? Not sure, since jumping the Data Connector showed the IAC to be faulty. This car, like my other Toyotas, has been superbly reliable. $300 in parts every few years is not a bother.
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FINAL UPDATE
Damn! I chased this one for a while. After all above changes, STILL had the same symptoms return, including one I didn't mention earlier - engine vacuum could not keep up with repeated brake applications and power assist would diminish. Decided to make one final troubleshooting pass before sending it off to the stealer.

I started with the Oil Control Valves that feed the VVT mechanism. My Haynes says that resistance across the valve terminals should measure between 6.9 and 7.9 ohms, and that even if it passes, put battery voltage to the terminals and check for mechanical operation. When I first started this journey, both tests checked out fine.

For my final effort, the car happened to be at operating temp, and the resistance for both of the Oil Control Valves measured 8.9 ohms. Could heat be the factor? I waited 20 mins and measured again. Both showed 8.5 ohms, then later, 8.1 ohms. Obviously, heat was exposing a problem with these parts.

I purchased two new OCV's from the dealer for $79 each (ouch). They measured 7.5 ohms out of the box.

Installed them, cleared codes, car runs like new.

Hope this helps somebody out there.
 
#13 · (Edited)
O.k. guys, I'm confused after looking at the service manual. Is the IAC valve located on the bottom of the throttle body. Or is the IAC valve the one on page 1165 which is what I disassembled today and cleaned with MAF sensor cleaner. When I turned on the engine after the cleaning, the RPM didn't move for like 2 seconds and then it freaking jumped up to like 2,000rpm and it slowly lowers itself down to around 750rpm. There is No.1 and No.2 Intake Air Control Valve. So I'm pretty confused. I couldn't get into the Lexus forum after signing up for it.
 
#14 ·
Can't help you with the Lexus forum, but it sounds like you cleaned the right part.
You disconnected the electric connection,cleaned, and reconnected. Correct?
The starting results are the same now, I am to assume?
Start the engine, idle spikes, slowly retreats to a steady 750rpm?
After driving, the idle is steady and holds at 750? That's what we're looking to hear.
 
#15 ·
I cleaned the No.2 Intake Air Control Valve, the one that is located on the passenger side. The one with the Actuator and DLC1 connected to it. I unscrewed the 4 screws and unplugged the ground strap & ground cable. I took the whole thing out and cleaned it. It wasn't all that bad. So I don't know if I cleaned the right thing or not I was just following the Toyota Avalon service manual. It pointed out that that is the Intake Air Control Valve.:confused: And like I stated, I turned on the engine, the RPM and the gas needle didn't move until 2 seconds later it spiked up to like around 3,500RPM and just slowly decreases to around 750RPM. I was like "Oooooh s**t" when the needle didn't move.
 
#17 ·
it's normal now hopefully for a long time. What's weird is that the guys on the Clublexus forum cleaned the IAC valve that is underneath the throttlebody. I couldn't take out the bolts that was on the right throttlebody so that I can take out what they cleaned soooo i took the MAF sensor cleaner and sprayed it into the small fly hole, some black stuffs came out of the air assist hose(I think it is, it's the 1/2" hose that is connected to it) that I disconnect it. So I plugged everything back in. Started the engine, the same thing happened as prior to the other cleaning. This morning, I turned on the engine and smoke came out for like 4 minutes and no more. So I hope I did it right. Thanks for all the responses and I'll keep up an update.
 
#19 ·
BTW - one of the previous posters mentioned the sludge/ oil gel issue that our engines have. Have you noticed anything? Perhaps you may have looked under the oil cap or under a valve cover while you were working on it. Just a thought.
 
#25 ·
clean the throttle body, toyota won't clean it for you, they make you buy a new one.. it only costs bout 5 bucks for brake cleaner + labor. stealership charges you bout $300+


i've had the same problem before, they cant duplicate it because sometimes the throttle body intake fins will just get stuck due to carbon build-up..