Bring it in and ask for a different technician. Obviously it's a warm engine starting problem. What's the condition of the car, aside from brand new?

 

Took it to a different dealership to get a second opinion. They said if they can't find anything wrong, we are not going to find anything either, and tries to brush me off. So I told him, can you please check it out, so he said give me 2 hrs. (1 hr for it to cool down) 20 min later, my car was moved from street parking to service dept parking lot. another 15 min later, he calls me on my cell and said my car is ready for pick up. (WHAT KIND OF TOYOTA SERVICE IS THIS???? THEY DIDN'T EVEN TRY TO WORK ON MY CAR)

What condition??? It runs fine and it drives fine. Just hard to start sometimes(warm engine)

 

By condition I meant have you noticed anything peculiar before this, was this a sudden occurence, is there any odd feeling to the car, are any lights on at the dashboard? Those things.

Well I can't advise you further as I do not own such a car. But a search led me to the following points to check on:

Engine/battery connections
Fuel pump/fuse
Fuel pressure/regulator
Engine management system/connections/wiring
Mass air flow sensor
Exhaust system/catalytic converter
Engine speed sensor

If in case you want to try yet another dealer/shop I suggest you don't tell them that the other shop didn't find anything. That way you let them hunt down the problem. This will work to your advantage whether or not they do find something (obviously something is wrong).

Goodluck! And Happy New Year!

 

All the lights are working fine. But I did notice one time when I fill up the tank, the fuel needle didn't go past the full line. It was just a litle under the FULL line and slowly went up from there. I traded my 01 corolla to a 05 corolla, the 01 starts fine everytime(cold/warm or hot engine) and the 01 fuel needle moves up slowly. The 05 fuel needle moves very fast up as soon as it is in the on position.

I didn't notice the starting problem at first because I don't go out much. Just to and from work and pick up my wife on the way home. I wait for my wife 5 to 10 min at her work that's why I didn't notice. One time she didn't come out half an hour later and that's when I noticed the starting problem. It wil do that only once in a while, not all the time. Like this week and a half, it didn't do it at all.???:clap:

Thanks for your help karugs and Happy New Year to everyone.

Thanks Phil

 

Hi Phil I have the same exact promblem on my 05 Corolla S. I here several people are have the same problem with there 05 Corollas. The dealer think it is my fuel pump. I am waiting for the part to come in. I dont think it is the fuel pump but they can change whatever they want. I just hope this fixes the problem but I doubt it. I will let you know what happens.

 

Hi Phil I have the same exact promblem on my 05 Corolla S. I here several people are have the same problem with there 05 Corollas. The dealer think it is my fuel pump. I am waiting for the part to come in. I dont think it is the fuel pump but they can change whatever they want. I just hope this fixes the problem but I doubt it. I will let you know what happens.

Thanks ems, Please let me know. I don't think is the fuel pump either.
Is your check engine light on?
Any error codes?

Thanks Phil

 

Hi Phil my check engine light is not on either. The car runs perfect once I get it started. I'm just glad the car did the problem while it was at the dealer and the mechanic agreed that this was bad. Personallly I think it has to do with the switch over that they did to electronic throtal. There really isn't much difference from the 2003 to the 2005 except for the electronic throtal and the engine immobilizer. Phil do you have the engine immoblizer? Some people have told me that I have to be very careful with my key because it has the computer chip in it and that that could be causing my problem. I have kept my key seperate from all my other keys but the problem still persists. Funny thing is that some weeks the car is totally fine but, like you said the same thing happens to you.

 

Hi Phil my check engine light is not on either. The car runs perfect once I get it started. I'm just glad the car did the problem while it was at the dealer and the mechanic agreed that this was bad. Personallly I think it has to do with the switch over that they did to electronic throtal. There really isn't much difference from the 2003 to the 2005 except for the electronic throtal and the engine immobilizer. Phil do you have the engine immoblizer? Some people have told me that I have to be very careful with my key because it has the computer chip in it and that that could be causing my problem. I have kept my key seperate from all my other keys but the problem still persists. Funny thing is that some weeks the car is totally fine but, like you said the same thing happens to you.

Yes, I have the package B with the engine immoblizer. I thought it was my key too at first.
But after trying out different keys, it was still doing it. I am going to talk to my salesman next week because he's still on holidays. I want to ask him what else I can do and if there is a recall on it.
My car started normal when they were checking it, so they think nothing is wrong. :headbang: :headbang: :headbang:

 

Hi Phil I have the same exact promblem on my 05 Corolla S. I here several people are have the same problem with there 05 Corollas. The dealer think it is my fuel pump. I am waiting for the part to come in. I dont think it is the fuel pump but they can change whatever they want. I just hope this fixes the problem but I doubt it. I will let you know what happens.

same problem with my 01 corolla.. except it takes like 3-5 seconds to ignite.. usually less than a second..

 

same problem with my 01 corolla.. except it takes like 3-5 seconds to ignite.. usually less than a second..

So is it still doing it or you had it all fixed? What's the solution?

Mine usually starts under 2 seconds, but sometimes 5 to 7 seconds.

 

So is it still doing it or you had it all fixed? What's the solution?

Mine usually starts under 2 seconds, but sometimes 5 to 7 seconds.

it's still there.. not really too sure if there is a fix for it or not.. maybe mine is an isolated problem.. cause there might be slight differences with our engines (we both have 1zz's) .. cept I think our ecu's are different and other minor things.. I dunno really.. if you are really too concerned about it bring it to the dealer...

 

Please read this. I asked if the IAC could be a culprit and Toysrme mentioned it could be.

http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/t61279.html

I hope this helps

 

Just an up date, after doing a lot of research on this starting problem.
I found from another website that upgrading to a better ground cable and
a better battery with a higher cold cranking amps(cca) will help.

 

I am not too sure if this may help to a new car like 05.

It happened to my 88 corolla before. The fuel filter became blocked just few weeks after the replacement. It probably caused by poor quality fuel. Did your dealer have the fuel filler checked?

 

Just joined forum. I have exact same problem with '05 Corrola Le. Starts fine except for when the engine has been warm, I turn it off for about an hour and when I go to restart it has a long cranking time before it starts. Am very interested to find out if you or anyone else has gotten any feedback from Toyota on this.

 

I found some info from, 2003corolls.org
2003 corolla battery has a 330cca can anyone confirm that.?
My 05 corolla battery is 550cca, maybe I'll upgrade it to 750cca or 850cca
cca=cold cranking amps

 

If the engine is cranking I don't think your battery is the problem for your warm starts. I don't know about canada, but here in Illinois we have lemon laws. This problem sounds like you could get a new car out of it if you have lemon laws where you live.

 

I bought my daughter an 05 Corolla S. It has the problem starting...not just when warm, also when cold. The Service Manager actually told me that it is "normal" for the car to take up to 10 (full) seconds to start! If totally screwed up is "normal", then yeah, the car's normal. I have tried to begin the process of using the Lemon Law. The owner's manual says to begin with the "Customer Relations Manager". I have asked 5 separate times for this person's name. Do you have it...because I sure don't. A "specialist" from Toyota is scheduled to review the situation on 2/3.

 

I went to Toyota.com and sent them an e-mail under their Contacts section describing the problem thinking their might be others reporting this situation to them. I listed the dealer and the "Customer Relations Manager" from the dealer contacted me within a day or two. I was also told that it was "normal" to have long cranking times even up to a minute.

 

I found some info from, 2003corolls.org
2003 corolla battery has a 330cca can anyone confirm that.?
My 05 corolla battery is 550cca, maybe I'll upgrade it to 750cca or 850cca
cca=cold cranking amps

my 01 Corolla had 310 CCA

my dads 04 Vibe has 310 CCA

I'm assuming that they are using the same battery so the battery is 310 CCA for the 05's

I upgraded mine and mine has 685 CCA

really works better with better battery IMO

 

I went to Toyota.com and sent them an e-mail under their Contacts section describing the problem thinking their might be others reporting this situation to them. I listed the dealer and the "Customer Relations Manager" from the dealer contacted me within a day or two. I was also told that it was "normal" to have long cranking times even up to a minute.

How infuriating. Yeah, they developed a brand new car that "should" take up to a minute to start. That'll be a big seller. Sounds like they have created a new strain of lemon. Did you accept that explanation, or did you pursue it until you were satisfied? One of my daughter's co-workers told her that if they had given him that explanation he would have driven the car right thru the front window of the dealership!

 

My 05 corolla s is going in for service on Monday. They have told me that the car needs a new fuel pump and that many corolla and matrixes are experiencing this same starting problem. I have been waiting for over a month for a replacement part but they keep on telling me that the are waiting for the part to arrive from Japan. I finally told them that I was afraid to drive the car and that it was not going to fix itself. They told me that even though they dont have the part they wanted me to bring in the car and they would give me a loaner until the part comes in. I have also been looking into the Lemon Law. But, New York state law is that they have 4 chances to fix the car or have my car for a month. I will be counting the month starting on Monday. This is quite infuriating considering this is a brand new car. Toyota is screwing up big time with this car. I will let everybody know what happens.:headbang: :nutkick:

 

If you have a car loan from Toyota, tell then that you'll stop paying until the
problem is fix. I was going to buy a matrix for my wife but learned that the Matrix
is having the same warm engine starting problem. Check this out matrixowners.com
click forum and click Issues quality & problems & click Starting problem (intermitten)

 

My problem is not only when the engine is warm. It started out with just a warm engine problem but, has progressed.:thumbsdow Now it does it at any time. The latest thing is that it starts and then turns off. Today it shut off twice and then finally stayed running on the third try. Sometime it starts and runs as if it is only running on 3 cylinders until it finally calms down. Once the car is running fine it is usually o.k. But this car seems to be built with poor quality. Many of the little buttons and bumpers that hold things in are falling off. The little rubber dr bumpers on the inside are always falling off and one dissapeared. My digital clock is cracking and I never touch the stupid thing. My brake pedal is loose and it make a clacking noise if I move the pedal slightly to the left. The mast for my antenna was loose. The list is endless. I'm not a Toyota hater. I really like toyotas and I have owned many. I have owned a: Supra, Celica convertible, Mr2, Corolla sr5,Celica and I currently own a Rav4 and this 2005 Corolla S. I have never had so many problems with Toyotas until owning this car. What is wrong with Toyota.:nono:

 

Ems, your problem progressed from warm hot start problem to suddenly shutting down, right? I would suspect the fuel pump like others have mentioned. Can't comment on the other stuff though.