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1999 Toyota Camry spark plug decision. Help me decide!

51K views 20 replies 16 participants last post by  stmoloud  
#1 ·
Hey everyone,

I am looking to replace the spark plugs in my 1999 Camry CE 4cyl. I have narrowed it down to either the
NGK (3764) BKR6EIX-11 Iridium IX

or the

Denso (5304) IK20 Iridium

I am pretty sure either would work just fine. But which do you think I should use and why? Or do you suggest using a completely different one?


Thanks!


Also, any suggestions on what wires I should use?
 
#4 ·
You can toss a coin and either way should be fine. That said I do prefer NGK Iridium-IX spark plugs because NGKs seem better built and hold up better. Their platinum electrodes don't wear as much too. Also get their low resistance wire set to match.

Just torque them down using a (3/8"-drive) torque wrench. Harbor Freight has them on sale often enough. (Just got a coupon in AAA magazine for the 1/2"-drive, $9.99!).
 
#6 · (Edited)
I found the following dyno test to be interesting:

http://www.sparkplugs.com/sparkplug411.asp?kw=NGK+Dyno+Results&mfid=0

In summary of the NGK line-up, the Laser Double Plats and the IX Iridium demonstrated significant increases in hp and torque with the Iridiums scoring highest and most consistent.

Update: I found a dyno test between Denso and NGK and according to this test Denso produced 2% more power and 3% more torque than the NGK:

http://www.elitedubs.com/index.php?topic=2491.0;topicseen
 
#8 ·
Here's something that I never noticed. Open your hood, and look to the right of the center latch, about a foot, right near the front underside of the hood. I've got a small blue and white sticker, maybe 2"x2" and believe it or not, it has the Toyota recommended spark plugs printed right on it. I wonder if that sticker is on all cars Toyota makes.

Check yours and chime in......

.
 
#11 ·
For the OP's question... I use NGK iridium plugs in all my cars (95 Camry sedan 4 cyl, 93 Camry wagon 4 cyl, and an 89 240SX with an S14 engine in it) and I've never experienced anything other than improvements. A factory mechanic will always tell you the stock plug is the absolute best plug for the car. They will also tell you if a car could be made better in any way then the engineers would have done it from the factory.
My recommendation is to use the NGK iridium plugs with an NGK wire set or a Toyota factory wire set.
 
#12 · (Edited)
1) The Denso IK20s have the smallest center iridium electrode (0.4mm), and thus require less voltage than the NGKs or long-life Denso iridiums (0.7mm) or any OE plug reducing the chance of misfire

With that said:
2) The OE twin-ground plugs project the electrode tip farther into the combustion chamber and are side discharge (the ground straps run parallel to the valves) allowing the air-fuel mix to propogate in the combustion chamber without blockage

Here's the difference:
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NGK Iridium IXs vs ultra-cheap Denso K16TR11s (non-platinum)

The NGK plug will face perpendicular to either the intake or exhaust valves.
 
#14 · (Edited)
I had my car smogged with both when I was getting my V6 swap legalized in CA.

(15 mph / 25 mph)
NGK Iridiums - HCs 102ppm / 37ppm
Denso K20TR11 - HCs 108ppm / 37ppm
Denso K16TR11 - HCs 54ppm / 32 ppm (1 step hotter)

Max allowable : 54ppm / 37ppm

The high HCs (unburnt fuel) were caused by a small vacuum leak, but also from my cat losing temperature since it's rear mounted (after the y-merge). The difference between them is negligible, however. I have to keep the end of my exhaust system wrapped because of that.

Also, in a wasted spark 2000 5SFE, the IK20s lasted 120k miles, versus their given life of 60k. The ground electrode was eroded quite badly, but the center iridium electrode looked brand new. At 100k miles, I had to regap the iridiums by moving the ground inward and not touching the center electrode. The spark is so strong it wears the grounds down by a considerable amount. I found that fascinating.
 
#15 ·
Hello,
SInce this is a related discussion, I neen to replace the spark plug wires in my 1999 Camry LE V6. Three spark plug wires are visible on top of the engine easy to change. The others 3 spark plugs are hidden below the manifold, but I was told this kind of engine has those spark plugs directly connected to the coil packs.

If that is the case, then I only need to replace the 3 wires on top. Can anyone confirm if that is the case? Also, I am looking for recommendation of the brand name of spark plug wires. Any suggestion?

Thanks....
 
#16 · (Edited)
Yeah, the 1MZ has 3 coils and 3 wires. The coils directly fire the spark plug, which is why they're called coil-on-plugs (COPs), while the wires deliver that same spark to a cylinder in the exhaust stroke (opposing pairs). This is the premise of wasted spark.

The OEM wires are probably your best bet as you're not likely to misconnect them. COP wire on cylinder 2 does not go to cylinder 1, for example.

Here are the opposing pairs:
Cylinders 1 and 4
Cylinders 2 and 5
Cylinders 3 and 6

When cylinder 1 is in the compression stroke, cylinder 4 is in the exhaust stroke, and vice-versa.

The 5SFE also uses this system, but uses coils with integrated igniters and high tension cords for all cylinders.
Opposing pairs are:
1-4
2-3
 
#18 ·
For something like spark plugs, supply/demand determine price; for iridiums, it's material cost as iridium is not a natural Earth metal; 100% of the iridium on Earth was delivered by asteroid impacts long ago (asteroids are high in iridium content). Denso is Toyota's #1 supplier and Toyota also has a 20% stake in the company. Most Toyota components from the ECU to alternator are Denso.
 
#21 ·
A budget buy is NGK BKR6EGP. They work fine in mine. Though I don't thrash the engine or do large mileages. I would prefer to use twin tip iridiums but they are crazy expensive here in NZ. And to be honest I haven't noticed a difference.