the '15's will DEFINITELY improve its looks with a 1" drop but the headache isn't worth it for me and I'll never track the car so it'll be a waste of money. Alignment issues, tire wear issues, rock hard ride, more rattling than every before, scraping the underside of the body everywhere, etc....

 

I personally have never understood why ppl lower cars apart from the "supposed" improved looks. The cons waaaaaaay out way the pros IMO. Decreased value @ trade-in (as the dealer would want to keep it in OEM form prior to sale), rougher ride, abnormal tire wear, increased probability of underbody scuffing, reduces the load capacity of the vehicle, plus the extra cost of buying new springs & labor (if u don't do it ur self) :dunno:

 

Yeah, i would enjoy the looks but the cons are just too much. MAYBE I'd consider it if all the roads we drove on were perfectly maintained and glass smooth at all times, which would never happen in reality.

 

@SiennaRide

The pic in your signature, you bought TWO Camrys?!?!

 

I am still doing some research on lowered camrys. Looking at the pros and cons, will make a final decision after finding all the information. was curious if anyone has lowered a 15 yet. I measured fender gap today on one of the 15s i have and its was 3 inches.

@SiennaRide

The pic in your signature, you bought TWO Camrys?!?!

Yes, I got one for my soon to be wife as a gift. I had planed to get myself one after our wedding on May 1. Went to the dealer to pick up the title paper for hers and to test drive a 3.5 with all the extra gadgets the i4 doesn't get. I decided that the 4k wasn't worth it for the 3.5 motor, LED headlights, Park Assist, Lane Departure, Active Cruise control. The salesman i purchase hers from, i have worked with a 6 times in the past. He offered me a deal i couldnt pass up so i ended up buying a second one 2 weeks later. Got great deals on both cars, plus it lowered my monthly payment on both cars. Long Story but yes i have two 15 Camry XSEs.

Hers:


Mine:

 

http://www.v6performance.net/forums...s-suspension-discussion/196655-reasons-why-you-may-not-want-lower-your-car.html

Enough said...

 

Reason 1 - Doesn't apply here. You'll be able to use stock alignment specs.
Reason 2 - Reliability - doesn't apply here. You're only changing your springs. He had set of overpriced coilovers, that's why he blew them.
Reason 3 - As I said before and user above me even measured - you won't scrape or hit anything with your undercarriage. If you're still worried about that get engine spacers/skid plate.
Reason 4 - Wear and tear part. CV boot will wear prematurely if car is laying frame and axles are at an increased angle, and again you're only lowering your car 1 inch not slamming it.

 

Back when I was around 16-17 years young. I had a car where I cut the springs to get about a 3" drop. It rode pretty smooth.... NOT.

Then I had a z-24 cavalier that I lowered the proper way and it rode almost as good as the SE Camrys. I never had any issues with weird tire wear.

 

I have a set of Eibach springs and some 19" Avant Garde M580's here, ready to be installed. Just waiting on time to do it... I'll have some pictures posted as soon as I get it all installed.

 

These are all good pros and cons but my plan isn't to drag the frame or lowered so much i cant get out of my driveway without hitting frame. I know for fact the alignment wont be a problem at all since the plan is only to lower 1.5 inches tops.

 

Some people say you need an alignment some say you don't. IMO I'd rather spend few more bucks for an alignment just to be safe since alignment is cheaper than tires. Also drive for few days to let springs settle (usually about 1/4 inch or less) then get an alignment. It's not required but gives me a piece of mind:laugh:

 

I strongly dislike that huge black basking shark mouth. Toyota is getting carried away with that crazy idea.

 

Lowered my xse v6 on h&r. Rides exactly the same for me and makes the car look really slick now!

 

I told myself when my Camry hits 5K miles I'll drop it, but seeing all these Camry's dropped makes me want to do it now. lol

 

After a few more days and it settling in, the ride is a little bumpier, not as in stuff bumpy, but a little loose. I double checked that my springs were made for a V6, so oh well. Was hoping to be a little more sportier, but it is made more for comfort imho.

 

Lowering your car adversely can cause what is known as negative camber. Negative camber is when your wheels are tilted inward toward the inside of your wheel well. This will cause a smaller contact patch of your tires to the ground, thus the worn out pattern of the tire on the inside rather than outside.

 

I had my 08 xB lowered on Tanabe Springs for 8 years on OEM and never had a blown shock or strut. Than i hear story's of people lowering there cars and all things go to shit, i think it also has to do with how you drive . I have a 2016 SE now and think the H&R springs are the way im gonna go mild drop and should not add to much extra stress.

 

I find this whole thread entertaining..

I love all the myths mentioned about lowering. quite comical.
Especially the one who said " I dont plan on tracking my car, so I dont need springs" or something similar to that. Hilarious!

If this keeps up I might have to subscribe

 

yes, i have. I'm on bc coilovers

 

Well i def wanna lower my Camry i'm thinking just springs for now will do. I had springs on my xB and loved it, Question is outta the H&R and Eibach what do you guy like better? I be leave the eibach are a little lower than the H&R if i'm correct ( will double check ) ?

 

I went with Eibach (and paid a little more) because they brought the front down lower. 1.5fr 1.2rr I used a few washers to make mime 1" rear to get the wheel gap even.

The H&R brings it down somewhat equally. Well, I hate the front up in the air. The eibachs IMO are a touch softer then the OEM "sport" springs for daily. But the progressive coils give it a nice predictable characteristic..


I would look into a rear sway bar if your taking some corners. The seats let you slide off if you get a little too aggressive..SO youll know the limits.

 

Thank you fro the input, My xb i had the TRD front strut bar and rear sway bar and Tanabe lowering springs and it drove really well. I do take some corners but an improved sway bar is always a good thing. Will have to research and see whats out there, I like both springs and wheels wise i wanna stay with a 18x8.5 and a35 offset. I keep hearing TRD will be making parts soon but i'm not gonna hold my breath on that.....

 

Look ITT

http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/3...ion-2012/1188265-information-regarding-aftermarket-parts-gen-7-xv50-camrys.html

 

Any of you heard of Vogtland springs? I placed an order for a set of 4 at my local car shop a week and a half ago and they came in yesterday. I dropped my car off earlier this morning only to receive a call early afternoon stating the springs do not fit in the front as the 2015/2016 Camry springs changed from the prior 2012-2014 model. The shop is having a set of Eibach's overnighted so the job can be completed tomorrow. I'm hoping these lowering springs aren't going to be the start of problems when driving my Camry, going forward. I just could not live with the wheel well gap on the Camry. With the stock 18's it was huge, now with my aftermarket 19's its somewhat better but I still want a somewhat lower stance. I'm hoping I made the right decision by deciding to lower the suspension.

 

I just could not live with the wheel well gap on the Camry. With the stock 18's it was huge, now with my aftermarket 19's its somewhat better but I still want a somewhat lower stance. I'm hoping I made the right decision by deciding to lower the suspension.

Concur with wheel gap ... dropping it makes it look like a different vehicle ... with the stock setup the car looks short and dumpy, and with the big mouth not where it's supposed to be (low) it is actually kinda ugly.

That said, the stock suspension on the XSE was phenomenal but lowered on HR's took some of that away mostly up front. Kinda choppy ride on rough roads, but nothing scary or uncontrollable. Still smooth as silk on the highway.

I lowered mine about 3 months after I got her and now with 50k on her no defects noted as far as blown shocks or rattles. 2015 XSE V6

 

Get an alignment and you should be good to go.


Mines been on a year and still no problems. I wish the spring rates were higher, eibachs are a little too soft for a sport suspension.

 

How do the Eibachs ride? I have a 2013 SE v6 and want a subtle drop and good ride.

 

Thats a relative question..


I like mine stiffer than the Eibachs provide, then again, Im used to stiff suspensions.


Its the same ride as the SE springs in my opinion.

 

Hi Folks,

Caster and camber have to change at least a little. Quite possibly not enough to fall outside OE spec limits, however. Toe-in may change a touch if the stock design has any residual bumpsteer. Curiously, there is some crosstalk between toe/bumpsteer and caster, so this is more than a theoretical possibility. Once again, however, it's not likely to become a serious issue with only 1" drop.

Best,
Mark

 

So after coming home with my lowered Camry on Friday evening, it has only been out on the road once since. The car sits ridiculously low, much lower than I thought it would and I now fear taking it out on the road. I scraped the right front underside turning in to my driveway on the way home and I knew from that point that this was probably not going to work. Dropping the car down 1.5" in the front and 1" in the rear is much more drastic than I anticipated. I can't see through other cars at intersections because the car sits so much lower. Every railroad crossing and speed bump now scares me to death and has me thinking of alternate ways to get home to avoid them. Any type of road debris is now critical in deciding to go over it or around it provided the road is clear of other vehicles. So many things have just changed. I called the shop and will be reversing the work done last Friday. The OEM springs will be put back on this week. I've included pics of the car to see what it currently looks like as of now.

 

Your car looks awesome, you probably crossed the line with 19's though if comfort was a priority.

 

Before you go having oem springs put back on.. You have to 1st realize your in a lowered car. therefore you have to take in account steep driveways, entrances, etc. You have to enter them at a 45* angle if they are steep. Same with exiting. This means not rolling up to the parking block. This means not blasting over speed bumps like they arent there.


As far as having fear from RR tracks and speed bumps. You just have to slow down for them and roll over them. ridiculously low? Cmon dude, its an inch and a half. your car is raised 4" from factory. Look at any BMW or Mercedes and youll see you have the same fender gap Now as they do in stock trim.

How you cant see other cars at intersections is beyond me. So many things have changed?? Nothings changed except whatever this fear is.


Personally the car looks great. the usual uneven fender gap in the front vs rear is typical eibach. I have the exact same springs and I dont see what the big deal is that has you scared. I see other cars just fine. I dont scrape in and out of steep driveways, I stay to the outside of RR crossings to the area that doesnt get ridden over 15K times a day and usually its alot smoother. All these things that your listing points to in-experience driving with a lowered car.

 

After trying the lowered setup, it's just not for me. A 1.5 inch drop is quite a bit more than I had anticipated on the the Camry. That drop amount doesn't sound like much, but it changes the dynamic of just about everything with the car. I'd rather deal with the 4x4 high clearance as opposed to having to worry about more things while driving a lowered vehicle. Sure, if I would have made the decision to keep the springs, I would have gotten accustomed to them, eventually. However, I just don't want to have think about compensating for the lack of ground clearance with every thing I do behind the wheel. My car has a little over 5000 miles on it and after thinking further, I don't want to run into any possible issues when it comes time to servicing the car at my local Toyota dealership. For piece of mind, I switched back. The last modification I'll be making to it this week will be rear LED tail lights and then she's done.

 

When I bring my car in for service, I have techs and service writers tell me how good mine looks. No issues what so ever.

But hey, maybe in your city roads are fuct up, its your ride.. Do what u like.



Just sad to see it back up to stock 4x4 ride height when it looks proper as it sits.



EDIT: After looking at the pics closely, I see you have some ground effects.. So yea, that'll lower your ground clearance for sure. Mine doesnt have any aded factory ground effects. I was wondering why yours looked lower than than usual. Then I noticed the front spoiler.