I don't have enough miles to provide a solid MPG average since I've only filled up once since picking up my new '19 XSE Hybrid. I'm pretty happy so far considering tank #2 has yielded over 500 miles with over 100 miles to go until empty. I expect I'll average at least 45mpg over the long haul.

 

My mileage started out around 45-46, but had declined a bit. I am holding steady at 43.5 for the first 4,000 miles. I drive in normal mode mostly. On long trips I switch to eco and usually average close to 50mpg.

 

Question for all: Where is the best place to see your specific mileage on a trip and overall? StillLine's screen is a bit of a guess for each trip but does show overall mileage.

 

After tracking my mileage for 4 fillups and obviously altering my driving style for each tank, there's no doubt you can get whatever fuel economy you desire based on the weight your right foot.

 

I'm almost to 3k miles on mine and it appears to vary from 43.2 to 48.6 MPG per tank - I drive like a snail and am not in a hurry to leave my cocoon of comfort..... I'm thrilled beyond belief with my Avalon to date... only thing I wish it had:

• Auto/Manual power folding side mirrors
• Avalon puddle lamps
• Panoramic size sunroof
• Power open/close rear trunk
• Auto rain sensing wipers
• Stronger lane keep assist and lane centering like the 2019 Rav 4's I've rented
• The next step up in interior leather quality
• Higher/multiple heat settings for the steering wheel with full heating coverage of the steering wheel
• Partial real wood steering wheel matching the Yamaha wood already in the vehicle
• A bit more noise diminishing materials
• An OEM stainless rear bumper garnish/protector like my wife's Highlander instead of the cheezy and flimsy decal.
• More powerful cooled seats, by at least 1 step up and 1 step up heat setting on all 4 seats
• Wireless Apple Carplay so I could get rid of the cords and put my phone on the wireless charger and use AppleCarplay

All that said, what a bargain this car is for what it has. I wasn't even tempted to go with it's Lexus twin as the fold down and heated rear seats was a must, and the out the door price of under $37k with all possible OEM accessories included/installed was well below where I could get Lexus to go.

 

All that said, what a bargain this car is for what it has.

The more I'm reading and learning on this forum, the more I'm coming to the same conclusion (and I'm not even an owner...yet...thinking I probably will be): this car offers so much for the price tag, with some great features (and excellent reviews as well). I've been looking at lots of different brands and models over the past year, and it just seems you could pay 50% more and not get any more than what the Avalon offers.

 

Was reading a Forbes article on the longest lasting cars and the Avalon was rated #1.... lasts a long time, and every mechanic I’ve talked to says they are bulletproof and they’ve seen 350k miles plus on many of these same transmissions, battery packs, engines.... oil, tires, fluid changes, filters, and brake shoes around 150k to 200k miles.... I’ll be doing transmission fluid every 30k miles, coolant and brake fluid every 3 years.... Id like my next car to be a hearse ?

 

This is a good thing since, obviously, we tend to keep cars a LONG time!!! LOL about the hearse...AND...if the ride is a bit stiff or bumpy, you really won't mind it... :0)

 

I have owned my avalon limited hybrid for over 7 months now. I am finding that in the winter (pennsylvania), the mileage dropped again down to 41.5 mpg. Anyone else see a drop in the winter?

This makes sense, given the engine starts immediately to warm up.

 

I am finding that in the winter (pennsylvania), the mileage dropped again down to 41.5 mpg. Anyone else see a drop in the winter?

I got my vehicle last month, in NY winter averaging 42 with gentle driving.

Oooh...this is a major disadvantage for where we live. Most disappointing. May have to look at other cars then. We live on top of a reasonably "steep hill". The local township does not always do the best job at clearing the roads either (or cutting the weeds along the bank during the summer for that matter

Avalon AWD coming, I'm assuming it'll be available in hybrid. The best value though will be the upcoming RAV4 Prime if you qualify for the Federal tax credit.

 

For those who own these cars, how do you find the traction in winter driving? We are rural with lots of backroads that get snow / ice. If conditions are bad, we generally use our Jeep, but often wind up having to use both vehicles. The Buick is front-wheel drive and does quite well - assuming the Avalon is also pretty good?

 

The winter traction is terrible. The energy efficient tires are by their nature hard, which makes them bad in the snow. Even in eco mode, the traction control was unable to get me up a steep hill. I am considering snow tires. Any one else put on snow tires? How are they working? Did you go down a size in wheels? I was thinking of going with 17s

 

I have no doubt, but, I'm not changing tires around on ANY car. That's too much like going back to the days of having studs put in. May have to look at AWD instead - probably better anyway for where we live.

 

So might be worth it to wait till the AWD comes along...wonder how long it'll be though. Then again, if I wait long enough, there might be a better number of charging stations and then I can go EV. Then again, if I wait even longer and just keep driving the Buick till I'm no longer driving at all.....;0]

 

Do you really need awd - I mean, did you get stuck often with the Riviera? Fwd with traction control is usually good enough for most in the rust belt...

 

You got a point....as I think I mentioned in one of the posts - the Buick has actually done quite well over the years with, as you say, the traction control which often engages (with a rather annoying warning sound . What got me going here a bit is avalonlimitedpa's post indicating that the traction is "terrible" due to the "energy efficient tires" being too hard and also his saying about not being "able to get up a steep hill" even with traction control. We live at the top of one of those fairly steep hills.

 

If your Riviera can do it, I'd be very surprised if the Avalon can't, even with energy tires.

 

Well yeah, I would think the same, which is why I was a bit taken aback by the post about the traction being so poor.

 

Have to say that, today after test driving a BMW 330i and 530i, my garage man (who introduced me to a few of the people whom he works with at BMW...long story but suffice to say that the guy is a HUGE fan of BMW - the best car out there in his opinion) so told me that if I now test drive the Avalon Hybrid there will be 'no comparison' (meaning that it won't measure up to BMW). I will find this out for myself. While the BMW was quite nice, I found the seats to be a bit uncomfortable (rather stiff) and also the ride in the 330 was a bit firm as well - much better in the 530. I'm a bit turned off by having to use premium gas plus the fact that the overall mpg is not much more than around 30. I want to do much better than that. I mean, my '95 is rated for close to that.

 

BMWs are designed for the Autobahn, so it's true, few cars can handle and feel like a BMW. That being said, the running costs will be significantly higher than any Toyota (except the BMW-made Supra), so you'll have to decide whether it is worth it. Even if you don't run into issues, as you've mentioned, premium gasoline and lower mileage, even supposedly simple things such as changing the 12 volt battery, is not so simple or cheap (most shops will not touch a BMW 12 volt battery, dealer charges $500 to replace it). Tranny fluid itself is $200 not including any labor to change it, and so on and so on. The very low resale value of German vehicles in general reflect these high maintenance costs.

Toyota's were born from a country with very strict biannual vehicle inspections, and from this arose the need for high reliability and easier serviceability. The industry best resale value of Toyota/Lexus reflect this. They are two very different brands with very different values, the only thing they have in common is that they represent the top or near top of the country they came from.

 

I enjoyed test-driving the 330 and 530, but really don't plan on buying a BMW. Hoping for something with better mpg. PHEV is interesting as well (as an alternative to EV).

 

Loving the MPG!! - Running 600-700 miles p/wk.
I understand there are a great many factors that effect MPG. I understand slower is better, just trying to quantify what the MPH limits are for "good" MPG.
Has anyone has done MPG tracking vs average MPH on longer drives to the point that allows the determination of the point of diminishing returns. As in, "whenever I go more than 73 MPH MPG drops by -## MPG"?
I drive 98%+ on a 70 MPH speed limit expressway and am interested if there is a optimum MPH (other than as slow as possible).
Found out today that drafting a double semi trailer with the radar cruse control on the minimum setting added 3 MPG to a 98 mile trip...Cool!!

 

I understand slower is better, just trying to quantify what the MPH limits are for "good" MPG.
Has anyone has done MPG tracking vs average MPH on longer drives to the point that allows the determination of the point of diminishing returns. As in, "whenever I go more than 73 MPH MPG drops by -## MPG"?
I drive 98%+ on a 70 MPH speed limit expressway and am interested if there is a optimum MPH (other than as slow as possible).
Found out today that drafting a double semi trailer with the radar cruse control on the minimum setting added 3 MPG to a 98 mile trip...Cool!!

There have been many studies on optimal speed for fuel efficiency, while I'm sure it is slightly different for each vehicle, the general number is 50-55 mph (one source: How to Get the Best Fuel Economy Now) before drag takes an increasing toll at higher speeds. In regards to drafting a semi, I don't recommend it. If you listen carefully while driving behind a semi, it spits out small sand and debris particles on your car that causes at the minimum pitting or chipping or worse to the paint and windshield.

 

Woodman911.
I appreciate your input. Thank you.
With track record of "bending" there own statistical measurement guidelines over the years, I am not confident in the much of what CR has published.

Driving at 50-55 MPH on a modern expressway with a 70 MPH speed limit would endanger myself and my fellow drivers.

As expressed in my initial post, I am most interested in understanding the experience of drivers of the latest generation of Avalon and their experience with this specific vehicle when operated at a specific MPH .
"I drive 98%+ on a 70 MPH speed limit expressway and am interested if there is a optimum MPH (other than as slow as possible)."

 

Woodman911.
With track record of "bending" there own statistical measurement guidelines over the years, I am not confident in the much of what CR has published.

As expressed in my initial post, I am most interested in understanding the experience of drivers of the latest generation of Avalon and their experience with this specific vehicle when operated at a specific MPH .
"I drive 98%+ on a 70 MPH speed limit expressway and am interested if there is a optimum MPH (other than as slow as possible)."

I thought when you said "optimum MPH (other than as slow as possible)" you were looking for a specific number, or speed (the CR reference to 50-55 mph is just one out of many: fueleconomy.gov, wikipedia, etc, they are all in agreement). If 70 mph is the minimal speed you're willing to go, that will be the most efficient versus a higher speed because of drag (aka air resistance). There is no way 75 mph will be more efficient than 70, just as 80 mph will not be as efficient as 75. Sorry I don't know what you're looking for.

 

Thanks Woodman911. My consistent commute with little traffic will be a great test to compare the effects of driving styles, speeds etc. Really enjoying the car so far.

 

I'm wondering what people's highest mpgs have been?

 

Google is your best friend

Toyota Avalon MPG - Actual MPG from 213 Toyota Avalon owners

The most accurate Toyota Avalon MPG estimates based on real world results of 8.5 million miles driven in 213 Toyota Avalons

www.fuelly.com

 

Now that we are back in warmer weather consistently getting ~51mpg. Last fill-up was 54mpg. Winter driving averaged ~47mpg. I know that I've been driving conservatively to enhance mileage, but nice to have that extra kick when placing car in Sport mode when I really want to accelerate. 16k effortless miles thus far!

 

That is amazing mileage. I feel good if I can get 43 however most of my driving is highway at 70-75 mph.

Did your mileage change much over the first 10,000 miles? What is your typical driving involve? City vs Highway miles? Normal highway cruising speed?

 

I was actually interested in anecdotes rather than averages. That way people could tell me about their driving habits. Thanks for the link anyway.

 

How to drive more efficiently

I see this section of the forum is almost dead, but reading about what members get for mileage on the newer cars, I thought it might be a good idea to discuss the strategy of driving for great mileage. You don't have to ride down the road with your engine shut off to get very good fuel mileage...

www.toyotanation.com

 

I think the biggest factor by far is speed (or wind) If you want the highest mileage slowing down helps. I am still getting used to the adaptive cruise control but letting the car settle into a 3 second following distance behind another vehicle does help a little. It is probably controversial for some but I have driven the last 20 year with my tire pressure around 6 psi over the pillar number. The gain in mpg is readily apparent. I prefer the ride and there is absolutely no center wear on the tire as there was in the early nylon belted tires of the 60s or 70s. I have also learned that wider lower profile tires are not helpful to best mileage. Always buy low rolling resistance tires if you want best mileage.

 

The biggest factor is WEIGHT.

 

No doubt that weight impacts mileage but I was coming from the perspective of things easily in our control. Short of trading in our Avalon cars for a Prius it is not something I feel I can alter.

I found this link that provides some other tips that may help.
Fueleconomy.gov

 

Yeah, if you want real life mpg from real life people, go to fuelly.

Fuelly - Track and Compare your MPG

Fuelly allows you to tracks your gas mileage over time, helping you calculate fuel expenses as you drive.

www.fuelly.com

 

Yeah, if you want real life mpg from real life people, go to fuelly.

Fuelly - Track and Compare your MPG

Fuelly allows you to tracks your gas mileage over time, helping you calculate fuel expenses as you drive.

www.fuelly.com

I guess I'll need to rephrase my question so as not to get forwarded to fuelly.

 

What's wrong with Fuelly? It's good site. Certainly, you do not need to go there if you do not wish to. Some freedom is still available.