the 2020 corolla hatchback brochure lists apple car play and andriod auto. Sedan brochure does not. Even 2020 yaris sedan list andriod auto.

AA is gradually implemented in various models production line beginning fall 2019. Sedan's turn will come, at least for 2021, and maybe before. Will there then be an update (and will it be free) is entirely up to Toyota. (By the way, the Yaris sedan is actually a Mazda2 which already came with AA as such).

 

And that's the rub. The way Toyota has been handling this whole AA roll out is the worst I've ever seen out of any manufacturer. No communication to their customer base on what their plans are. Just useless canned legalese that says nothing. There's no reason why Toyota can't update the existing Entune 3.0 head units that have Carplay already to have AA. Heck Toyota of Australia has announced updates being available for existing models to get AA.

 

Well actually my 2017 Toyota yaris IA did not come with AA or ACP. I just turned it in from lease and got this corolla. However, it seems the 2020 Toyota Yaris sedan does. So idk

 

actually my 2017 Toyota yaris IA did not come with AA or ACP

Indeed. The Mazda line got those from MY 2018.

 

On a side note without posting a whole-nother
Thread, has anyone solved the unlit map light and sunroof switches. I can't believe they skimped on this.

 

Right! Drives me nuts!
I had a 2016 GTI that the entire overhead console was backlit. Sometime after 2017, VW deleted the backlighting. It drove so many people nuts they began buying the 2015/2016 consoles from VW and swapping them in. At least for that car you could get an OEM solution.
Maybe some Corolla in another country has this feature?

I just bought some new dash switches that are Toyota OEM looking for our 2020, maybe the same vendor could whip up some backlit buttons for the Corolla?

 

Ha. Yea

 

The roll out for (1st off the line 2020 Corolla's) retrofit I was informed by TOYOTA is most definetly happening and is in final testing stages (upgrade / retrofit)
obviously running a tad behind schedule.

I grabbed an early 2020 Corolla and it promised to me on my purchase slip for when.

Unfortunately the ENTUNE 3.0 systems are NOT the same hardware as the 2019. Software identical just not the hardware,
Its a whole different programming upgrade.

Technically this new TOYOTA hardware is only just getting into the hands of developers.
Its only a matter of time before we see a full on optional aftermarket modification assualt.
It will come.

 

So you're saying the 2019 Corolla HB and 2020 Corolla sedans built in 2019 are not eligible for a retrofit?

 

When I bought my wife's 2020 Corolla, I actually took a USB cable and my Android phone to the Corolla and made darn sure AA worked. Toyota is very unclear about what, when, where and why in regards to AA. I couldn't trust it unless I saw it.

 

Im in Australia and my 2019 sedan hybrid has AA. I know its different to US cars.. but a usb firmware update was also available when i picked the car up

 

Well that sucks. Can't even switch out infotainment systems with a 2020 HB/2021 Sedan to get it working?

 

This article talks about why some models have it and some don't, Money section is the interesting one:

4 reasons Apple’s CarPlay and Google’s Android Auto still aren’t ubiquitous

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This was written before any of the Toyota/Lexus models got the tech, though of course, the ones that don't have them have systems that are old and don't support them. I don't think any manufacturer besides Tesla doesn't have them in their cars. For Tesla, that huge display has controls a lot of things, and has a map already that's comparable to CP/AA.

 

BTW, Toyota of Australia seems to have figured out this "licensing" issue.

Toyota offers Apple CarPlay, Android Auto retrofit

Smartphone mirroring now available to more Toyota owners as rollout continues

www.goauto.com.au

"Eligibility for the retrofit is limited to the latest-generation Corolla (from August 15, 2018), RAV4 (from May 8, 2019), Camry (from November 21, 2017), HiAce (from May 28, 2019) and Prius (from March 12, 2019), meaning owners of their previous-generation models miss out. "

So what's the next excuse to come out of Toyota Canada and US?

 

You win some, you lose some I suppose

 

Don't buy a car that doesn't have something hoping it'll magically appear later.
Currently, only Tesla has meaningful, ongoing product enhancements and updates to existing vehicles.
When you buy any new car that isn't a Tesla, expect that car to remain pretty much the same as the day you bought it.

We had to delay our purchase of a new Toyota specifically due to Android Auto. Hyundai and VW had it years ago, but we had to be patient. It did occur to me a few times whilst waiting that I could "hope" Toyota would release an update and we could buy a 2019 and "hope" what we wanted would materialize later. I don't trust Toyota or anyone for that matter to give you any more than what you see. That's why I had to test AA on my wife's 2020 HB before buying, I didn't even trust that AA might work despite saying it on the window sticker, as Toyota has been obtuse about AA on all of it's USA vehicles.

I do agree that Toyota could be more honest. I believe AA may be added later to non-AA Toyotas, but Toyota will drag you through the murkiness until it happens.

 

For what it's worth, I didn't buy my C-HR in hopes of getting AA. I had other bigger requirements. But what's annoying as I've mentioned many times is how Toyota is handling this. If they're not going to upgrade cars without AA, then fine. Say so and I'll move on. What doesn't help is all the mixed messages from both the dealers and Toyota corporate itself. All Toyota needs to do is put out a public press release to tell us no.

It also doesn't help when another arm of Toyota (Australia) has announced they are in fact upgrading certain models to get AA. Plus the fact, Toyota North America did put out a Car Play update to cars that didn't have it.

AA is a small thing in the grand scheme of things but Toyota has made this into a monster on their own through poor communication and poor management.

 

I wonder if Toyota USA corporate has some deranged thought that telling it's customers older cars could be upgraded might cut into some small amount of sales from customers who'd just go buy a NEW Toyota with AA

 

It's more Toyota North America has some serious issues with their brain trust. Just look at the various models and options which are available overseas that are not available here. And it seems the various overseas arms of Toyota seem to give a d**n about their customers to not subject them to the stupidity we're witnessing here with AA.

 

Seems nearly every car car line selling in USA does the same thing, only a few exceptions.

 

I guess it's time to go aftermarket ?‍♂
It's going to be faster than entune anyways

 

Yes , same here ! I was PROMISED and MARKED on my sales invoice for 2020 Corolla that I will have it placed in car upon availability
The car was sold to me with that feature 'Soon To Be," as OEM.

Its nearly about to launch (AA) not much longer to wait.

 

Regarding the swap out of radios, unfortunately the hardware build on the ENTUNE radios (2020 models) is completely different from the hardware build (2019 models)
Though identical in every other way physically , the radios was manufactured by two different companies and the AA software upgrades had to be built by two seprate companies. (forgot i think pioneer and someone else i cant rceall)

My dealer already tried this swap out a system with a 2019 Corolla Entune to accomodate the inclusion of SIRIUSXM on my 2020 Corolla ( as it was announced days prior all 2020's come with SIRIUSXM - mine didnt) and they were a few conflicting connectors in the back of the unit that just was a no no.
I actually did see it real time when the radios were pulled out. (have a few photos somewhere) Eventually job done for SIRIUSXM though, it was trial and error for the 2020's off the first production line.

From what I was told, Toyota is coming to the table with quite a few AA retrofit accomodations but as of now, they are looking to keep much focus to executing a 'no noise,' calm and collective software upgrade rollout. They know there are going to be software bugs along the first few months that would need to be worked out.
The last thing they want is a mass pile up of customer headaches resulting in an overload of pissed off customers and avalanche of consumer complaints (that is to a system upgrade that is arriving about 5 years past due, and technically arriving to much outdated software)

It kind of all makes sense if you look at the bigger picture.

??? I think I remember in conversation passings with my dealer that the 2019 Corolla's were on the initial target list regarding AA retrofits?.

--- better late than never ? maybe ?

 

From what I was told, Toyota is coming to the table with quite a few AA retrofit accomodations but as of now, they are looking to keep much focus to executing a 'no noise,' calm and collective software upgrade rollout. They know there are going to be software bugs along the first few months that would need to be worked out.
The last thing they want is a mass pile up of customer headaches resulting in an overload of pissed off customers and avalanche of consumer complaints (that is to a system upgrade that is arriving about 5 years past due, and technically arriving to much outdated software)

It kind of all makes sense if you look at the bigger picture.

??? I think I remember in conversation passings with my dealer that the 2019 Corolla's were on the initial target list regarding AA retrofits?.

--- better late than never ? maybe ?

As if there are not an overload of pissed off customers and avalanche of consumer complaints now. If they are working on something then just say so. The stupidity of how Toyota is handling this is causing more issues than what they think it's solving by not putting out an official statement on things. All the disjointed messaging that is coming out of the dealerships and even Toyota North America itself is just idiotic. And then you have Toyota Australia that was able to put out an AA update for some previous models. How come they were able to figure it out and the idiots at Toyota North America can't?

 

Like most companies, they don't need to do anything as far as upgrades are concerned. I suspect, they pay royalties to Apple and their contract may have something to do with unlocking AA here in the US.

The divisions are split throughout the world. Not all deal with the red tape that they deal with here in NA. Wouldn't hold your breath too long as it's likely going to be some time before it's all sorted. By that time, the aftermarket would have passed the OEM solution.

 

Google + Apple have already noted a few times ....subscription pricing platforms
are coming most likely upon the launch of the new full "Wireless - AA & ACP,"
mid 2024/2025.(where it is also expected to be a standard included feature in most new vehicles purchases / leases, etc)
worldwide that is.

 

Yeah, just like eu wants apple to conform with USB c standards.

Just wait for aftermarket.