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2023 Camry LE with 26k miles - weird low-frequency vibration at 1500rpm

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#1 ·
I bought a gorgeous '23 Camry LE (4 cyl, 8speed auto) just a few months ago, and it has a low frequency vibration when my car hits 1500 rpm - I can hear it, feel it, and it makes my rear view mirror vibrate. As soon as the car dips below or goes over that 1500rpm mark, it goes away. If I'm following another car at a constant speed (say, 35, 50, or 60mph, etc), I have noted that the car will hover right at 1500rpm and I can hear and feel the vibration for as long as I'm at that rpm. Sometimes I put the car in Sport mode just to keep it above 1500rpm so I don't have to experience it as often. When it's cool outside, the effect seems a little bit less pronounced, and when it's warm/hot out, it's VERY noticeable. This phenomena is VERY consistent. It is very distressing to me. Otherwise the car is awesome, and I'm getting like 39 miles per gallon in terms of fuel economy. I've only noticed it happening when the car is in motion. I've confirmed that my tire pressure is uniform all around.

Is this just a known quirk of these cars, or does it suggest something wrong? I've confirmed that the factory warranty is still active. It had a squeaky clean carfax and it's had every oil change right on time.

I've seen some posts about Toyota service centers plugging in diagnostic equipment and waving it away. "Whelp, computer says it's fine! That'll be $185 dollars please. On your way now!" I just can't imagine that Toyota would engineer a car that vibrates like this. I'm so sad. I was so excited about getting my first camry, and this issue is robbing me of joy.

Should I be worried? Thank you for any advice or guidance you can offer!
 
#3 ·
I really appreciate your response. I called the service manager, and they said that they could have a tech go with me, so that sounds promising. I just want to be prepared to be respectfully and kindly assertive if they try to just send me packing rather than fixing the issue. I just don't know what this vibration is or what's causing it. Thanks again for your reply. I will be sure to treat them with nothing but dignity and respect.
 
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I bought a gorgeous '23 Camry LE (4 cyl, 8speed auto) just a few months ago, and it has a low frequency vibration when my car hits 1500 rpm - I can hear it, feel it, and it makes my rear view mirror vibrate. As soon as the car dips below or goes over that 1500rpm mark, it goes away. If I'm following another car at a constant speed (say, 35, 50, or 60mph, etc), I have noted that the car will hover right at 1500rpm and I can hear and feel the vibration for as long as I'm at that rpm. Sometimes I put the car in Sport mode just to keep it above 1500rpm so I don't have to experience it as often. When it's cool outside, the effect seems a little bit less pronounced, and when it's warm/hot out, it's VERY noticeable. This phenomena is VERY consistent. It is very distressing to me. Otherwise the car is awesome, and I'm getting like 39 miles per gallon in terms of fuel economy. I've only noticed it happening when the car is in motion. I've confirmed that my tire pressure is uniform all around.

Is this just a known quirk of these cars, or does it suggest something wrong? I've confirmed that the factory warranty is still active. It had a squeaky clean carfax and it's had every oil change right on time.

I've seen some posts about Toyota service centers plugging in diagnostic equipment and waving it away. "Whelp, computer says it's fine! That'll be $185 dollars please. On your way now!" I just can't imagine that Toyota would engineer a car that vibrates like this. I'm so sad. I was so excited about getting my first camry, and this issue is robbing me of joy.

Should I be worried? Thank you for any advice or guidance you can offer!
Yes, it's just a normal A25A-FKS engine vibration at 1,500 rpm...

You could certainly try 0W-20, or even 5W-30 as already used by others, mostly in warmer environments... Have you tried higher than 87 pump octane gas?

It is mainly a very specific quirk of the A25A-FKS 2.5 liter 4L engine... Interestingly, it does have a separate balancer mechanism, while its smaller brother, my M20A-FKS 2.0 liter engine does not. M20A-FKS only has a slight yet very distinctive vibration rather at 2,000 ~ 2,100 rpm, but it's more of a moderate and hardly distinguishable rumble that is rather pleasant. It can be felt slightly in the manual shift lever knob. I've always used 0W-20 engine oil and 91 octane gas.

A25A-FKS (2.5 D-4S)


The crankshaft has 8 counterweights, narrow journals and traditional (separated) main bearing caps. The bearings have a polymer coating. The upper heads of the connecting rods are cut to reduce weight.
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a-e - main bearing journal, f - balance shaft drive gear, g - balance weight.

The separate balancer mechanism is driven by crankshaft via train with polymer gears. The balance shafts module is attached through the crankcase directly to the cylinder block with long bolts.
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Toyota engines - A25·M20 - Dynamic Force series (R4)

I've also replaced my original cast iron/elastomer crankshaft pulley with an NST lightweight aluminum crankshaft pulley which appears to have alleviated the vibrations.

2018 - 2024 Toyota Camry 2.5 Crank Pulley NST09250
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NonStopTuning 2018 Toyota Camry A25A-FKS Lightweight Crank Pulley for TMMWV - NON STOP TUNING
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