the only dif. is the fuel injection between the two, and other supporting mods, (intake, intake hose, etc.)

in an 86 it should already have the 22re unless someone changed it for a carb 22r they went to fuel injection in 85 if im not mistaken.....

 

It depends on the year, not the "E" designation. All 22R and RE's from 1985 up are the same, and will NOT interchange with the pre-1985 22R and RE's. The "E" denotes EFI, so a post '85 could be an R or RE depending on whether it was carbed of injected.

The pre-85 EFI is different than the '85+, and won't interchange. Also, 22R's were available with carburetors until the early '90's.

 

It depends on the year, not the "E" designation. All 22R and RE's from 1985 up are the same, and will NOT interchange with the pre-1985 22R and RE's. The "E" denotes EFI, so a post '85 could be an R or RE depending on whether it was carbed of injected.

The pre-85 EFI is different than the '85+, and won't interchange. Also, 22R's were available with carburetors until the early '90's.

which pre-85 rigs had efi?

 

What is the"C" in the 22REC?

 

California emissions.

 

as has been stated engines from 85+ are interchangeable. 22R and 22RE are essentially the same engine, except that the RE has fuel injection slapped onto the intake.

that said, putting an engine from a EFI'd truck will NOT give you fuel injection because it's not the engine (block/head) that's different. in fact you could convert your current engine to EFI if you wanted. you'd need a different intake manifold, fuel pump, ECU, wiring and so on.

 

Theblock is different on an e motor compared to the carbed version. The pistons are flat top instead of the dome ones and the deck height is 2mm shorter. Also, the heads have different shaped exhaust ports, and I think only the 84 head is drilled for the efi manifold. So certain parts will swap, but dont expect the intake manifold to. The only parts that are exactly the same are the crank, rods, oil pan and pickup tube, oil pump, water pump, valve train, cam. All other stuff is different. Also, if the motor blew a timing chain, then I could almost gaurentee that at least one piston hit a valve. You will need to have all that checked out before swapping anything.

 

Theblock is different on an e motor compared to the carbed version.

Not so; read my post on the difference. It has to do with year, not if it's carb or EFI.

The pistons are flat top instead of the dome ones and the deck height is 2mm shorter. Also, the heads have different shaped exhaust ports,

Again, this has to do with the pre-'85 and the '85+ design differences, not if it's carbed or injected.

and I think only the 84 head is drilled for the efi manifold. So certain parts will swap, but dont expect the intake manifold to. The only parts that are exactly the same are the crank, rods, oil pan and pickup tube, oil pump,

water pump,

The water pump is different between early to late style 22R/RE's.

 

In North America the 22R & 22R-E s are used in the following:

22R
1981-82 Toyota Corona
1981-83 Celica
1981-87 Toyota pickup (up to 1990 on 2wd)
1984-87 Toyota 4-Runner

22R-E (22REC=California emissions=extra charcoal canister)
1983-85 Celica
1985-95 Toyota pickup
1985-95 Toyota 4-Runner

22RTE (Turbo EFI)
1985-87 Toyota pickup
1985-87 Toyota 4-Runner

22R Series tech data:

http://www.babcox.com/editorial/ar/ar119838.htm
http://www.babcox.com/editorial/ar/ar400108.htm
http://www.toyotaperformance.com/flow22r_re_stock.htm
http://www.toyotaperformance.com/toy_22r_re_mod.htm
http://toyota.off-road.com/toyota/article/articleDetail.jsp?id=274605
http://www.lcengineering.com/TechNotes/TechNote48.htm
http://www.toysport.com/Technical Information/22r_tech_notes.htm
http://www.off-road.com/toyota/tech/other/toy_motor.html
http://www.off-road.com/toyota/tech/other/4_dts.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_R_engine#22R
http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/faq/parts
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Pit/9975/dataBySubject/Engine.html
http://www.toyota-mods.org/engines.txt
http://www.toyotagtturbo.com/engines2.html
http://www.engnbldr.com/ToyotaHotlicks.htm
http://www.bitwalla.com/cruisers/info/engines.html
http://www.off-road.com/tlc/faq/engine.html
http://www.jnc.farpost.com/toytech.html
http://lcengineering.com/TechNotes.htm
http://www.buschtaxi.net/de/01info/motoren.html
http://www.landcruiser.hu/motorok.html
http://www.toysport.com/Technical Information/Transmissions.htm
http://toyota.off-road.com/toyota/article/articleDetail.jsp?id=274536
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_transmissions

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hello, quick ? what is the diffrence between the 22r and the 22re motor?
is it just the fuel injection or is there more. I have a 22r motor now in my 86 toyota and it needs a overhaul pretty bad. I can get my hands on a 22re that blew a timing chain. I was woundering if I could interchange the internal parts if nessecery. and then have fuel injection. thankyou in advance for your help.

This is an 83.
does your VALVE COVER look like this?? If not, it is a 22RE..if no one changed it.

 

I don't know where to start or if I should just jump in. I have a 1980 toyota with the 20r engine. The frame is rusted in half. I just purchased a 1988 with a destroyed 22re engine. I plan on putting the 20r in place of the 22re. Will the engine bolt up or will I have to use the trans and transfer off the 20r.

 

It will bolt right on, but you won't be able to use the EFI, you'll have to use the carb as the intakes are totally different.

 

Don't try to put that 22re head on that 20r..That won't work either..not a bolt on quick fix , if it is the 85-up head.

 

The truth is in the block

To find out if you can swap internal parts, just check the drivers side of the block just above the oil pan and look for a casting in the block that somewhat resemble the chevy bowtie but has rounded edges. the casting is approximately 2" long and maybe 1" high. Don't worry you can't miss it. If both motors have this cast into the block your good to go. this designates the post '85 block which has a shorter deck height by about 1/4". As far as internal parts, the crank and rods are all the same. Pistons are different though. The cylinder heads look the same except for the pre '85 cylinder head has a round shaped combustion chamber while the post '85 has a peanut shaped combustion chamber. They will not interchange. the '85 and later blocks are better cause they have a little higher compression ratio i believe.

 

hey thank you very much for all the answers.

 

i may have just come by a w 56 to swap into my celica the guy claims that i just need the flywheel and clutch pack to complete the swap any guidance is appreciated

 

additional info. some 84 pickup came with fuel injection. This is a celica style injection and not the same at the 85 pick up injection. The computer only has two plugs and no knock sensor. This 84 has the old style head. You can tell the different by looking at the exhaust ports, 84- round 85+ pear shape