Yeah, the black fog light thing has been discussed before. The problem with it is that the fog ligths are all reflector. There is no extra stuff to paint black like there is on the headlights. If you paint anything in the fogs, it will hinder the fog light's output. It would be sweet if it could be done, but if you want to actually use your fogs, it wont work.

 

yeah i thought bout that.. im wondering if there would be a way to tape them off or something...... maybe paint the ID, or maybe the OD. eh, maybe it wouldnt work. i just thought id through it out there because the bhl do not match the fogs. trying to figure a way to make them match without ruining them completely............??????????????? i figure out something... HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE!!!!!

 

What about just getting black fog light covers and take them off on the rare chance you actually need the lights. Granted, that may seem completely stupid, but if you want it to match, it could work.

 

i think it looks just fine. and there is nothing to paint, unless you actually paint the reflector itself, which wouldnt be a good idea. you are a chromosome retard. i though i'd get you theories, mock them, then embrace my own.

 

i think it looks just fine. and there is nothing to paint, unless you actually paint the reflector itself, which wouldnt be a good idea. you are a chromosome retard. i though i'd get you theories, mock them, then embrace my own.

THANKS FOR THE SUPPORT!!!!!:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

Amber fog lights don't work any better than white ones...worse actually, which is the whole reason you rarely see them anymore.

It's the same thing with blue headlights... you don't actually see any better, you just think you do... even though you actually have less light thanks to the tint.

If you're trying to black out the front end I'd tackle the chrome grille surround first (unless you like it that way)....

...or tint your side windows (if you're allowed)...that'd look sweet.

 

Amber fog lights don't work any better than white ones...worse actually, which is the whole reason you rarely see them anymore.

It's the same thing with blue headlights... you don't actually see any better, you just think you do... even though you actually have less light thanks to the tint.

If you're trying to black out the front end I'd tackle the chrome grille surround first (unless you like it that way)....

...or tint your side windows (if you're allowed)...that'd look sweet.

I HATE CHROME!!!!! IM LOOKING INTO REPLACING THE GRILL AND BUMPER FOR A BLACK ONE, BUT THE TINT THING IS KINDA IFFY BECAUSE I LIVE CA.. I DONT EVEN WANT TO HASSLE WITH MR. MOLICE PAN...:lol: THEY ARE JERKS HERE, WELL MOST OF THEM...

 

Yeah, restrictive tint laws suck...

 

What about making some acrylic transparent black covers? Or something like what they use to smoke taillights? That way, when they're on, they'll look normal, but when they're off, they'll be black.

 

As far as tint law's go. Trucks can have any rear windows totally blacked out.

Ive got my rear side windows and the rear window and slider all blacked out. Its 1% light transmission (Limo Tint).

The front windows can only be 30% tint. But the windshield cant be fully tinted but can have an eyebrow.

 

get the yellow fogs you will see a difference.

 

Amber fog lights don't work any better than white ones...worse actually, which is the whole reason you rarely see them anymore.

It's the same thing with blue headlights... you don't actually see any better, you just think you do... even though you actually have less light thanks to the tint.

If you're trying to black out the front end I'd tackle the chrome grille surround first (unless you like it that way)....

...or tint your side windows (if you're allowed)...that'd look sweet.

I'm pretty sure yellow fog lights do work better than white ones, if you are trying to get better performance in the fog, rain, or snow. Going to blue will give you less light output, but yellow will light up the road more in the bad driving conditions. They also look pretty cool if you're running HID headlights. I have them on my Tacoma but haven't been able to get any good pictures of them. Every time I take one, they get all blurry or washed out and don't look anywhere near as good as they do in person. I use them as running lights, on all the time. Gives my Tacoma a different look than all the others I see driving around.

 

yellow fog lights do work better than white ones, if you are trying to get better performance in the fog, rain, or snow. Going to blue will give you less light output, but yellow will light up the road more in the bad driving conditions.

Exactly... yellow lamps reflect less glare back to your eyes in poor weather, and they are more visible to other drivers. :thumbup:

 

As far as tint law's go. Trucks can have any rear windows totally blacked out.

Ive got my rear side windows and the rear window and slider all blacked out. Its 1% light transmission (Limo Tint).

The front windows can only be 30% tint. But the windshield cant be fully tinted but can have an eyebrow.

tint laws aren't based on what kind of vehicle you're driving. each state has it's own rules. unfortunately i'm in jerz...

http://www.tintdude.com/laws.html

 

My JDM yellow fogs are coming tomorrow or Friday. I'll take pics. If you want, you could get the darkening film, the same stuff they use on headlamps and tails. Or get this film spray from AutomotiveLightingUSA. Thats what I'll be doing soon to the fogs and tails :thumbup:

 

Exactly... yellow lamps reflect less glare back to your eyes in poor weather, and they are more visible to other drivers. :thumbup:

The reduced glare is due to there being less light.

 

The reduced glare is due to there being less light.

you are wrong.

 

Alright, children. Let's not turn this in to a pissing match. Read my sig for my thoughts on internet fighting.

 

you are wrong.

Sure...



Here's a couple of minutes with google. Everything's off the first page, though I obviously avoided articles written to sell a product.

8. Are yellow fog lights really better than white or blue ones?

The old wives' tale that yellow fog lights give you greater visibility over white or blue ones is just not true. The premise of that superstition, that yellow light waves are long enough to pass through water particles without reflecting back into the driver's eyes, is based on a misinterpretation of Lord Rayleigh's principle of light scattering. As it turns out, the water particles in fog and mist are entirely too large to have an effect on any light waves from fog lights, be they yellow, white, blue or even green. In other words, any fog light that is properly mounted and aimed is effective, so don't worry about the color.


http://www.autoanything.com/lights/51A22.aspx


Note: Guys who're thinking of running HIDs in the stock reflectors should read #10.

Of course, the question of yellow, or amber, versus white needs to be addressed. I prefer white. Regardless of the fog lights' various types of construction, generally speaking amber or yellow fog lights become amber or yellow from coloring the lens or the reflector. This may reduce the light 15% to, in extreme cases, 50%.
I once equipped a car with amber headlights, driving lights, spot lights and fog lights. I could light up reflective signs two miles away. But from not having the full spectrum of light, a lot of darker objects simply were not as visible.
So I use white lights for their benefits the majority of the time. Some people prefer amber lights for more severe weather, and, obviously, for much less glare off of snow. But to me the disadvantages outweigh that benefits.



http://www.vclassics.com/archive/lightprn.htm

TOM: So the question becomes, to yellow or not to yellow? There's a lot of debate about this, but the research says that yellow lights are no better than white lights at penetrating fog. The theory bandied about was that yellow light has a longer wavelength and is therefore less likely to be reflected by the fog particles. Turns out, this is complete poppycock.

RAY: Apparently, the fog particles themselves are so big that they reflect all colors of light. Basically, all light bounces off of them, so using yellow light instead of white light gives you no advantage.

TOM: Plus, in order to get yellow light, what fog-light manufacturers do is put a yellow lens over a white light. That cuts your light output by 20 percent to 30 percent, which is counterproductive.

http://www.berkeleydailyplanet.com/article.cfm?archiveDate=02-15-02&storyID=10186

So... I'll state it one last time. Yellow doesn't help you see any better and the reduced glare is due to the reduced amount of light.

 

Interesting reading, ST. I've always found the yellow lights to help out with my visibility in foggy weather, but your post makes sense, so maybe it's all psychological... Maybe because the yellow lights have less output, there's less corresponding glare...

Obviously, the height and angle of the lights makes a huge difference.

 

Yup there is no physical property of yellow lights that would allow it to work better in fog or snow then a white light, BUT i still suggest yellow fogs because they DO allow other drivers to see you easier, and thats just common sense, yellow will stand out more in white fog then white will. It's all about the mounting, the lower the better.

 

Since we are getting technical about fog lamps, check out http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/lights/fog_lamps/fog_lamps.html. Click on the 'Selective Yellow' link for more good stuff, including this:

"So, why do yellow fog lamps work better? It's because of the way the human eye interacts with different colors of light. Blue and violet are very difficult for the human optical system to process correctly. They are the shortest visible wavelengths and tend to focus in front of our eyes' retinae, rather than upon it. To demonstrate this to yourself, find a dark blue store front sign or something else that's a dark, pure blue against a dark background in the absence of white light. From any appreciable distance, it's almost impossible for your eyes to see the blue lighted object as a sharply defined form...the edges blur significantly.) Blue also is a very difficult color of light to look at if it is at all intense...it stimulates the reaction we call "glare". So, culling the blue out of the spectrum lightens the optical workload and reduces glare. For more in-depth discussion of the matter, see Bullough & Rea's excellent study on the topic."

For a seemingly simple subject, it certainly is complex. And an interesting topic for discussion.

 

You could just get some fog light delete cups that are in the base trucks for an all black look.
I threw mine away when I put in the new fog lights or I would send them to you.

 

The yellow bulbs give ya an extra 5hp :banana: