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Climate Control Knobs Gone Crazy

17K views 19 replies 12 participants last post by  Mr. PC  
#1 ·
Hi all, I'm new to this forum, but am a member of a few other forums for my older cars.
I have a 2007 Hilander Limited model. i do all my own work on the thing and it's a bit frustrating at times, but it's all good.

Anyway... A few moths ago I've had the climate control knobs start doing funny things to me, and the knob for the fan control wouldn't really work at all. I learned to live with it since it's winter and I just use the same fan speed for most things now, but the temp knob was giving issues too.
Once the blower fan went out, I decided to look into what was wrong with the control knobs.

What I found was that the wires for the knob connecting it to the circuit board for the whole climate control unit was a 3 wire ribbon-wire had condisconnected and almost completely gone on one knob.

This is the one that was in better shape.

This one was the broken one.

So in order to fox this issue, I decided to de-solder the ribbon wires and do my own wires.
I ended up using some strands oof wire from a section of CAT5 wire I had in my house. I took the individual wires from the CAT5 and cut them down to about 4 inches a piece for 6 different colors.

I then soldered the new wires into the places where the ribbon wire was.

These are the new wires that I cut to length and soldered into place.
I did this for both the Temp knob and the Fan control knob.

The end result of this was that the control knobs worked perefctly when I put it all back together and now the wires that I used arebetter than the crappy ribbon wire they used from the factory.

The project was pretty simple to do and only took about an hour total time.

I hope this helps any of you that are having an issue with your climate control knobs.
 
#6 ·
Sorry, I forgot to mention that...
The tools that are required to do this:
A normal size flathead screwdriver
A miniature flathead screwdriver
A normal #2 Phillips screwdriver
A size 10 socket with extension
A ratchet
Soldering iron
Solder
Small gauge wire, I used strands from CAT5 wire.

The cover on the dash over the climate controls and radio pops out, I used a plastic window tool, but a screwdriver will do just fine.

After the cover is off, there are 6 10mm bolts holding the radio and climate controls in.
With the 6 bolts gone the control panel comes out in one piece. be sure to unclip the wire connectors.
The radio has 4-6 screws on the side holding it in.
On the back of the climate control there's a plastic cover that has 6 screws holding it in, use Phillips screwdriver, there's The main plug connecting the plastic cover board to the main board, so don't yank the plastic cover off when unscrewed.
Carefully undo the wire connector and set aside the cover.
Now you can see the control board.
The board has 4 screws to hold it to the front cover, take these out it's easier to solder with the board out.
The control knobs each have a screw holding them in place.
With the boards out, you can desolder the ribbon wires and cut your new wires and solder them in and put it all back together.
 
#8 · (Edited)
Thanks for the post. I actually found the following last year:
http://www.devalcourt.com/2010/03/fixing-2004-toyota-highlander-ac-and-heat-issue/

The poster in the link I provided seems to think that the problem is that the ribbon cable is short and under stress, making it susceptible to breaking. My two year old pulled outward on the temperature control knob and that seems to be what broke it.

I was looking for some 3-wire ribbon cable, but separate wires might work as well. Do you know what the original wire gauge is?
 
#11 ·
I ended up going to a hobby store to find small enough wire when I fixed our 2005 Base HL. Also, be sure to desolder the board before adding more since where the wires attached are very close together. Solder wick worked great.
 
#13 ·
Just be sure to use electronics solder and an iron designed for electronics. Acid core solder and iron for plumbing with destroy electronics.

Its super easy just practice soldering a few scrap few wires together or onto a scrap board beforehand to get the hang of it. Be mindful not to overheat the baord or nearby components. Also getting a desolder pen or a solder wick to pick up/remove melted solder is helpful.
 
#18 ·
Actually, having done this repair several times, on several different control units, I've formed the opinion that it is actually the soldered length of wire that is causing the problem, along with the associated knobs loosening over time. What I HAVE found to work, long term, is to crimp female Dupont terminals to both ends of a length of wire, and solder 2.54mm (on center) pin headers into the locations where the wires were formerly soldered--on both the controller PC board, AND the knob PC boards. At that point, you have a controller PC board with a bunch of pin headers to be connected to knob PC boards with pin headers on them, and interconnect jumper wire sets connecting them all together.

Since doing this, a number of years ago, I haven't had a single recurrence of the issue.....and I HATE having to fix things twice.
 
#19 ·
As a follow-up clarification to the above, this is what I'm talking about:



This is the mode switch connection point on the AC Control Unit PC board. A six-position, right-angle pin header is installed, with an identical pin header connection point on the PC board that the mode switch is installed on.



After the same fashion, the Temp Switch connections are addressed with right angle pin headers installed on both the controller PC board and the PC board upon which the temp switch is installed.

As noted in this photo, if you are, as I have mentioned elsewhere, replacing the OEM clock with a clock module sourced from elsewhere, the indicated traces on the controller PC board are best cut.



Because the front passenger-side occupancy telltale is connected to the PC board in the same manner as the mode and temp switches, I treated it to the same remedy.



Likewise with the Emergency Flasher switch and switch illumination lamp--the incandescent lamp should really be replaced with an LED or LED array.



In total, there are 5 incandescent lamps in the AC Control Unit housing for the following purposes:
One lamp for clock back light illumination.
One lamp for Emergency Flasher switch illumination when the parking lights / headlights are enabled.
One lamp for the front passenger occupancy telltale flashing indicator.
Two lamps for the AC Control Unit control knobs and settings back light illumination when the parking lights / headlights are enabled.

If you tore this thing out, and apart, you really don't want to have to do it again. I highly recommend replacing all incandescent lamps with LEDs or LED arrays.
 
#20 ·
Well, I did this repair and my temperature control works!!

I was nervouse to try this (but the part was already broken, so what the hell).

This forum and the greater web is so fantastic. Lots of info, did the repair while watching a Youtube video.

I'm not a mechanic, but I was still able to do this, and saved myself lots of $$.

Plus nobody can see how crappy the soldering was, with it all closed up.

Thanks Toyotanation!