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Consolidated 2024 Crown Purchase or questions on purchasing a 2024 crown.

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I am looking to possibly purchase a 2025 Crown Platinum in the next moth or so. I am asking for any advise current Crown owners may have for someone considering getting one.

I am a long time Toyota owner and have owned many Avalon's through the years, this would be a replacement for my current 2019 Avalon Limited that a truly love.

Thank you all in advance for any help/advise provided.

Thanks,
James
 
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I am looking to possibly purchase a 2025 Crown Platinum in the next moth or so. I am asking for any advise current Crown owners may have for someone considering getting one.

I am a long time Toyota owner and have owned many Avalon's through the years, this would be a replacement for my current 2019 Avalon Limited that a truly love.

Thank you all in advance for any help/advise provided.

Thanks,
James
I'll say this- you might want to look at the resale value before you buy. For some reason, the Crown's resale value is very un-Toyota-like. You'll see a huge first-year depreciation on a Crown of any kind- but especially on the top-dollar Platinum.

For example, a 2024 Crown Platinum had an original MSRP of $54,465 before options. The trade-in value of a 2024 Crown Platinum with 12,000 miles in 'very good' condition is just $34,911. For a Toyota, that's absolutely horrible.

So unless you can get the deal of a lifetime on a 2025 Crown Platinum- and plan to own it for 10+ years, that will be one expensive purchase.

Other than the horrible resale value, it seems like the Crown is a perfectly reliable car. The Platinum's Hybrid Max powertrain is rather complicated- so long-term repairs might be expensive. The long-term reliability of that Hybrid Max powertrain is also somewhat up-in-the-air too. That powertrain has been out since 2023, so how well it might hold up over time just isn't really known at the moment. With that said, the gas engine is based on an engine that's been out since 2018- but adds a turbo in the Hybrid Max application.

It's a quick car- but not something that's going to be exciting to drive. It's a cushy car that you'll like if you liked the various Avalons that you've had over the years. The Crown has a very nice interior- and its infotainment system is pretty decent by Toyota standards.

Lastly- one thing you might want to look into before purchasing a Crown Platinum is the tires. The Crown Platinum uses huge 21" tires- and there aren't a lot of options in the 225/45R21 size... and the ones that are available are quite costly. If I remember correctly, only Bridgestone and Michelin make tires in that size.
 
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My wife, a long time Avalon Limited owner, bought a new 2023 Platinum when they first were released. She loves it. The 340 HP power reminds me of the muscle car power of the 1960's. The suspension feels like my Corvettes on a twisty road. As previously mentioned resale numbers are disappointing but then so were the Avalon's. If you are going to keep it for 4~5 years, the resale value should be okay.
 
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We traded in our 2019 Avalon Limited V6 for a 2025 Crown Signia, and have been very happy with it so far. The ride and features compare favorably to the Avalon, (no heads up display, and no power steering column) but the additional features are very well done. I don't miss the Avalon at all after a couple of months with the Signia. The Toyota Sense 3.0 is very well done, not perfect but light years ahead of the Avalon's system.
 
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I can not recommend the platinum. Stay with the Crown limited. Why? The Platinum is about horsepower, and the cost for that is very very high. The crown does not handle well enough for high horsepower. It's a great smooth riding car, but extra horsepower and Toyota Crown is like putting Hatfields and Mc Coys together. They just are not compatible. Choose between a high horspower sports car, or a smooth riding family sedan like the crown, but it won't do either job well in the platinum. I own the 2023 crown limited, with 18000 miles.

It's a great car, smooth, comfortable, fuel efficient..but not a high performance race car. Smooth, comfortable, quiet, fuel efficient and high performance (aka speed) are "in direct conflict" with each other. Taking corners at high speed requires beefed up racing style suspension, incompatible with a smooth comfortable, fuel efficient and quiet ride. People who have bought the Platinum have a difficult time selling it, because others see it as I do. And you will suffer heavy heavy depreciation, costing thousands to get out.
While it's true the Crown does not come close to the superior depreciation of, say the Rav4 or Camry, but if you keep the Crown longer term it won't matter. But if you buy the platinum and don't like the ride with those larger tires, it's difficult and expensive to go back to more conventional smooth riding tires, like on the Crown limited.
I saw that same thing with the Buicks. The models with the large 21 inch tires ride rough and are not desirable. People buy Buicks and Crowns for the smooth comforable ride, and largely regret it when they try to add those extra ponies in the Platinum.

Get a corvette or Porsche if you have a "need for speed". Get a crown if you want a comfortable smooth, fuel efficient quite ride. While trying to do both jobs is tempting, the result is you will have a poor handling, high horsepower, bad fuel economy, rough riding vehicle and you won't like it. It won't do both jobs well, it will do neither job well.
 
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I can not recommend the platinum. Stay with the Crown limited. Why? The Platinum is about horsepower, and the cost for that is very very high. The crown does not handle well enough for high horsepower. It's a great smooth riding car, but extra horsepower and Toyota Crown is like putting Hatfields and Mc Coys together. They just are not compatible. Choose between a high horspower sports car, or a smooth riding family sedan like the crown, but it won't do either job well in the platinum. I own the 2023 crown limited, with 18000 miles.

It's a great car, smooth, comfortable, fuel efficient..but not a high performance race car. Smooth, comfortable, quiet, fuel efficient and high performance (aka speed) are "in direct conflict" with each other. Taking corners at high speed requires beefed up racing style suspension, incompatible with a smooth comfortable, fuel efficient and quiet ride. People who have bought the Platinum have a difficult time selling it, because others see it as I do. And you will suffer heavy heavy depreciation, costing thousands to get out.
While it's true the Crown does not come close to the superior depreciation of, say the Rav4 or Camry, but if you keep the Crown longer term it won't matter. But if you buy the platinum and don't like the ride with those larger tires, it's difficult and expensive to go back to more conventional smooth riding tires, like on the Crown limited.
I saw that same thing with the Buicks. The models with the large 21 inch tires ride rough and are not desirable. People buy Buicks and Crowns for the smooth comforable ride, and largely regret it when they try to add those extra ponies in the Platinum.

Get a corvette or Porsche if you have a "need for speed". Get a crown if you want a comfortable smooth, fuel efficient quite ride. While trying to do both jobs is tempting, the result is you will have a poor handling, high horsepower, bad fuel economy, rough riding vehicle and you won't like it. It won't do both jobs well, it will do neither job well.
Completely disagree here. The Platinum is it, especially if you intend on keeping it. Which I will be and won’t get rid of it. It’s an incredible vehicle and the Limited didn’t do it for me when driving/comparing the two. I take delivery on my brand new 25 Platinum in Oxygen White tomorrow! 👍 The adaptive suspension handles the 21 inch wheels well. Toyota has also addressed some features owners of the 23/24 had that were missing. Paying the kind of money you are for a Platinum, it would have been a pass for me. But,they are here now.

“Newly added to the Platinum grade is a Head-Up Display, a powered tilt and telescopic steering wheel, Dynamic Rear Steering, and a hands-free power trunk.”

DRS is a big deal with handling improvement. It takes corners just fine. Especially in Sport+ if you want to play around a bit. Still, far from a sports car but not trying to be one either. I am a Honda guy and it’s all I have mostly owned. This is my first Toyota and I was sold instantly on it. Coming from a 23 Honda Accord Touring. The Crown I have zero doubt it will be cancelled and very niche. Which is fine by me and did not affect my purchase in the least. Nothing like it on the road either right now and it is its own thing. Rather people think it’s ghastly or love it, definitely has a presence on the road for better or worse.
 
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Signia owners I would like your reviews. Now, I do love my Crown limited. And, inside they look identical. I noticed the XLE Insignia has heated steering and heated seats, favorites of mine.
I would especially like to know how much you paid for your insignia, and, if it has options.
My 2023 crown limited had a MSRP of 47k, and I paid 44k, about a 3k discount from MSRP.
For it to make sense, I would also expect a MSRP discount on the Signia. For reasons I don't understand, the Crown was not all that popular. As an example, it was nearly impossible to buy a 2023 Camry hybrid, and, if they were available I would be laughed at if I asked for a discount off MSRP with the Camry, but the Crown was no problem. Basically the crown did not sell well.

I think buyers were confused as to "what the Crown is". Is it a sedan? Sort of. But it's not a SUV. I consider my 2023 Crown a sedan, and love it. The Signia, much more of an SUV, seems to be increasing in sales over the months since it was introduced.
I see the Signia is about a 1.5 inches wider than the crown. This is probably a good thing. I also see the Signia has about 10 hp more than my 2023 Crown, but the fuel economy is 3 mpg lower in the Signia.
Comments and reviews on signia are appreciated. Im also interested if you bought the signia XLE or Signia limited (about 4k more). I hate larger tires on the limited, they make the ride rougher, cost way more, and add no value in my opinion.
 
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Signia owners I would like your reviews. Now, I do love my Crown limited. And, inside they look identical. I noticed the XLE Insignia has heated steering and heated seats, favorites of mine.
I would especially like to know how much you paid for your insignia, and, if it has options.
My 2023 crown limited had a MSRP of 47k, and I paid 44k, about a 3k discount from MSRP.
For it to make sense, I would also expect a MSRP discount on the Signia. For reasons I don't understand, the Crown was not all that popular. As an example, it was nearly impossible to buy a 2023 Camry hybrid, and, if they were available I would be laughed at if I asked for a discount off MSRP with the Camry, but the Crown was no problem. Basically the crown did not sell well.

I think buyers were confused as to "what the Crown is". Is it a sedan? Sort of. But it's not a SUV. I consider my 2023 Crown a sedan, and love it. The Signia, much more of an SUV, seems to be increasing in sales over the months since it was introduced.
I see the Signia is about a 1.5 inches wider than the crown. This is probably a good thing. I also see the Signia has about 10 hp more than my 2023 Crown, but the fuel economy is 3 mpg lower in the Signia.
Comments and reviews on signia are appreciated. Im also interested if you bought the signia XLE or Signia limited (about 4k more). I hate larger tires on the limited, they make the ride rougher, cost way more, and add no value in my opinion.
Transaction prices always vary a bit depending on market, but in my neck of the woods you can generally get $2000-$3000 off a Crown Signia XLE or $4000-4500 off a fully-loaded Crown Signia Limited- without negotiating very hard.

I think that what might really throw a wrench into your plan is the resale value of your 2023, as the resale value of Crowns tends to be very un-Toyota-like. It's a shame because they are really nice cars (just kinda weird-looking... or at least unconventional in terms of exterior styling).

You might want to go to KBB.com and plug in your zip code and price-out a Crown Signia that's available in your area. It will give you a target price range depending on trim and accessories that is specific to your market. I've found that it is pretty accurate. That site will also give you the current value of your 2023 Crown sedan- so you can go into the dealership with an idea of what to expect.

Good luck.
 
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Transaction prices always vary a bit depending on market, but in my neck of the woods you can generally get $2000-$3000 off a Crown Signia XLE or $4000-4500 off a fully-loaded Crown Signia Limited- without negotiating very hard.

I think that what might really throw a wrench into your plan is the resale value of your 2023, as the resale value of Crowns tends to be very un-Toyota-like. It's a shame because they are really nice cars (just kinda weird-looking... or at least unconventional in terms of exterior styling).

You might want to go to KBB.com and plug in your zip code and price-out a Crown Signia that's available in your area. It will give you a target price range depending on trim and accessories that is specific to your market. I've found that it is pretty accurate. That site will also give you the current value of your 2023 Crown sedan- so you can go into the dealership with an idea of what to expect.

Good luck.
Yes, the 2023 Crown Limited resale value is "un Toyota like", according to the numbers on KBB. However, Im a big fan of admitting my mistakes and moving on. The Crown Limited was/is an amazing car, however, I probably should have bought one not new, but very gently used by someone like me. My 2023 Crown will be a great buy for someone, which looks and drives new, still under warranty, but likely about 12k less than a new one.
I even used AI to help me decide whether to make a switch or wait. Waiting will cost me money. The reason is Im eliminating one car for the family. We just don't need 2 cars much, my wife rarely drives. She is fully on board with saving money going from 2 cars to 1. But the "1" car needs to do what 2 cars are doing now. I have a 24 Ford Maverick Lariat hybrid and the Crown Limited Sedan. The Crown Insignia will actually tow more weight than my Maverick!
 
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Signia owners I would like your reviews. ......

I think buyers were confused as to "what the Crown is". Is it a sedan? Sort of. But it's not a SUV. The Signia, much more of an SUV, seems to be increasing in sales over the months since it was introduced.
I see the Signia is about a 1.5 inches wider than the crown. This is probably a good thing. I also see the Signia has about 10 hp more than my 2023 Crown, but the fuel economy is 3 mpg lower in the Signia.
Comments and reviews on signia are appreciated. I'm also interested if you bought the signia XLE or Signia limited (about 4k more). I hate larger tires on the limited, they make the ride rougher, cost way more, and add no value in my opinion.
Crown was intended to be a direct replacement for the top of the line Avalon Sedan. The Sig is more like a crossover. My son bought an end of the year '23 Limited and got $4800 off MSRP. Purposely bought the Limited instead of the Platinum because he didn't want the turbo and didn't need the extra cost, hp or added insurance expense.

Now that I bought a '25 Sig Limited he would be interested in a trade up to a '25 Sig Limited with the tech package which he sorely misses. Using no top off fill ups he gets as much as 45 mpg and I get 39 mpg according to the dash gauge Dealer has one coming in on the water but I suspect the cost differential is not worth consideration just for the body style and tech package. Especially since the vehicle is identical from the "B" pillar forward. I do not notice a difference in ride between his 19's and my 21's. The extra 1.5" width of the Sig is not apparent in the interior but in the external width of the shape of the doors and fenders.

I'd be interested in how you make out dollar wise if you go ahead with the deal.
 
#13 ·
I definitely hear you about the depreciation. I done the research and knew about it. In my case, I’m just not going to get rid of it. If that is a thing for people and care about resale on something like this. Definitely look else where 110%! I also advise IF buying this car at least the Platinum version, you definitely want the extended warranty. It’s just absolutely stacked with tech and features that can or will go wrong long term out of warranty. All that being said, I don’t know how the Crown/Signia have beyond horrific depreciation and resale value. Very not typical of Toyota, I thought it would be the opposite. Especially with them being built in Japan and not United States.
 
#16 ·
No issues at all. Just over 10,000 miles (We're both retired).
On the highway it drives itself but will alarm if you leave your hands off the steering wheel for a few minutes.
After the first free year you have to pay for "Connected Service" for the factory navigation to work. It's not much and I can't recall the exact amount but it covers a lot more features and we've found it worth it.
We do get a lot of compliments on it. It's color is the 'Duracell" battery two tone.
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#18 ·
I called my dealer who has a Crown Insignia XLE in a color I like. My wife and I agree neither of us want black or white. Black looks dirty 4 minutes after you wash it, and there are just too many white cars. I want the XLE because "I don't trust" low profile 21 in tires. I want a smooth ride with "serious rubber" between me and a rough road. I may have mentioned I test drove an older Buick, where I know this is a super smooth riding car, but his one had those big low profile tires teenagers seem to want. The parking lot had speed bumps which I had taken in my other car, but was nearly knocked airborne when I hit that speed bump in an otherwise smooth riding car but with low profile tires. That did it for me. No low profile tires.
Yes, I know, Toyota has some tech built into the car to compensate for the rough ride on low profile big tires, but, Toyota has an app also, and I sure don't want to bet my life savings on their app, which does not work with my iPhone 16 upgrade. I checked and those low profile tires are $450 each, while the more conventional 19 inch tires are 250.

People worry about the hybrid battery replacement, which has something like 100,000 mile warranty. Im more worried about tire replacement of nearly $2000 "with certainty" because tires only wear around 50,000 miles or so and I usually always replace mine sooner than that. I don't run on bald, unsafe tires....especaially when there is no spare tire!!!!!!

Yes, I know the 21 tires in the Limited look cool. At my age it's not about "hot looks" to get a girl. My car "is not" to impress others. Not for me. I don't want a car that says, "Im rich". Indeed, there are drug addicts who have killed people for their car, when it's a "cool car". For those reasons, I want the XLE only..no big cool tires for me. And, yes, the $4k difference between Limited and XLE is a deal breaker for me.

Im deciding between these cars, which have made my "short list":
1. Crown Insignia XLE
2. Mazda CX. 50 hybrid
3. Subaru Forester hybrid.
4. Honda CRV Hybrid.

After having several hybrids, I buy mostly exclusively hybrids, as they are smoother, quieter, and more fuel efficient, just all around better than gasoline only cars. And the mainentance is less and the resale value is higher than gas cars.
 
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I called my dealer who has a Crown Insignia XLE in a color I like. My wife and I agree neither of us want black or white. Black looks dirty 4 minutes after you wash it, and there are just too many white cars. I want the XLE because "I don't trust" low profile 21 in tires. I want a smooth ride with "serious rubber" between me and a rough road. I may have mentioned I test drove an older Buick, where I know this is a super smooth riding car, but his one had those big low profile tires teenagers seem to want. The parking lot had speed bumps which I had taken in my other car, but was nearly knocked airborne when I hit that speed bump in an otherwise smooth riding car but with low profile tires. That did it for me. No low profile tires.
Yes, I know, Toyota has some tech built into the car to compensate for the rough ride on low profile big tires, but, Toyota has an app also, and I sure don't want to bet my life savings on their app, which does not work with my iPhone 16 upgrade. I checked and those low profile tires are $450 each, while the more conventional 19 inch tires are 250.

People worry about the hybrid battery replacement, which has something like 100,000 mile warranty. Im more worried about tire replacement of nearly $2000 "with certainty" because tires only wear around 50,000 miles or so and I usually always replace mine sooner than that. I don't run on bald, unsafe tires....especaially when there is no spare tire!!!!!!

Yes, I know the 21 tires in the Limited look cool. At my age it's not about "hot looks" to get a girl. My car "is not" to impress others. Not for me. I don't want a car that says, "Im rich". Indeed, there are drug addicts who have killed people for their car, when it's a "cool car". For those reasons, I want the XLE only..no big cool tires for me. And, yes, the $4k difference between Limited and XLE is a deal breaker for me.

Im deciding between these cars, which have made my "short list":
1. Crown Insignia XLE
2. Mazda CX. 50 hybrid
3. Subaru Forester hybrid.
4. Honda CRV Hybrid.

After having several hybrids, I buy mostly exclusively hybrids, as they are smoother, quieter, and more fuel efficient, just all around better than gasoline only cars. And the mainentance is less and the resale value is higher than gas cars.
Not sure where you are out, I priced the tires out on the 21” factory wheels. They are $248 each. Also, being AWD. You get one bad tire that needs replacing, all 4 need replacing at the same time. If you care about depreciation and resale. Avoid the Crown like the plague on a buy, lease it. It depreciates extremely fast, by MANY thousands of dollars. The worst I have ever seen on any Toyota. I would only buy if you are 110% sure you are keeping and won’t get rid of. Which is what we done. Other wise, you are out of your mind buying these brand new. Let alone a loaded Platinum version. Btw, the Limited has 19” wheels. 👍
 
#19 ·
Thank you to everyone for your input. I did put a deposit on a 2025 Crown Platinum. I know any new car will depreciate the second you drive it off the lot and swore I would never buy a new car again. I talked myself in to it because there are very few 2025 used Platinum and none with the options I wanted. I got to order exactly what I want and I do think I got a good deal. As far as getting the Platinum trim that’s the only option for me. I like all the bells and whistles and every Avalon I’ve owned was a Limited. I won’t be getting my new Crown for about a month now and I can’t wait.
Thanks,
James
 
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Thank you to everyone for your input. I did put a deposit on a 2025 Crown Platinum. I know any new car will depreciate the second you drive it off the lot and swore I would never buy a new car again. I talked myself in to it because there are very few 2025 used Platinum and none with the options I wanted. I got to order exactly what I want and I do think I got a good deal. As far as getting the Platinum trim that’s the only option for me. I like all the bells and whistles and every Avalon I’ve owned was a Limited. I won’t be getting my new Crown for about a month now and I can’t wait.
Thanks,
James
You are in for something special! I just took delivery of my brand new 25 Platinum yesterday. If I may ask, what was your price OTD sticker wise? Mine had MSRP of $57,198.00 and got it for $56,221.83 with all the taxes etc. Readily availability really sucks for these here in Oregon. I got the last 25 Platinum in that Oxygen White with in the whole state! 😲 Even then, my local dealer had to get it from another one a little over 200 miles out.



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#22 ·
Thank you to everyone for your input. I did put a deposit on a 2025 Crown Platinum. I know any new car will depreciate the second you drive it off the lot and swore I would never buy a new car again. I talked myself in to it because there are very few 2025 used Platinum and none with the options I wanted. I am not too concerned about the resale value, I plan on keeping it for at least 5 years.
I got to order exactly what I want and I do think I got a good deal. As far as getting the Platinum trim that’s the only option for me. I like all the bells and whistles and every Avalon I’ve owned was a Limited. I hope I love the Crown as much when I get mine next month.

Now I need to see what accessories I can find!

Thanks,
James
 
#24 ·
Hi all,
So I ordered my 2025 Crown Platinum and now need to start thinking about aftermarket options and upgrades.
I am thinking of a few things but would love to know what others have done

Has anyone found inside front door windows shades that fit?

Is there a good place for a radar detector?

What are the coolest add-ons?

Thanks,
James
 
#29 ·
Hi all,
So I ordered my 2025 Crown Platinum and now need to start thinking about aftermarket options and upgrades.
I am thinking of a few things but would love to know what others have done

Has anyone found inside front door windows shades that fit?

Is there a good place for a radar detector?

What are the coolest add-ons?

Thanks,
James
Personally, I like to keep my vehicles as stock as possible and only use OEM accessories. With that said- Toyota offers illuminated sill plates for your Crown that look nice and are pretty easy to install. I'd probably spring for the nice carpet trunk mat too.

If I had a Crown, I probably would remove the front Toyota emblem and replace it with a Crown emblem that is used in Japan:

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In terms of the best location for the radar detector- you likely will want to mount it at the top of the windshield to the left of the rearview mirror. You could also mount it to the right of the rearview mirror- but you'd have to mount it a bit out of the driver's line-of-sight because there is the camera for the safety systems behind the rearview mirror and then the sensor for the windshield wipers to the right of the mirror.
 
#25 ·
Have you ever owned a hybrid? We are on our 3rd and there, definitely, is quite a lot of things to know about them. If this is your first hybrid, you should watch hybrid videos by the Car Care Nut.

Definitely do the break-in oil change at 750-1,000 miles to get any manufacturing residue out of there then it's oil/filter change every 6-months or 5,000 miles. (Hybrids are harder on the gas engines than regular cars because they stop/start so much.)
 
#27 ·
Hi all,
So I ordered my 2025 Crown Platinum and now need to start thinking about aftermarket options and upgrades.
I am thinking of a few things but would love to know what others have done

Has anyone found inside front door windows shades that fit?

Is there a good place for a radar detector?

What are the coolest add-ons?

Thanks,
James
Do you even have a Hybrid?