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I just bought a 2019 Rav4 Hybrid Brand New no loan. Total Owner here. My Model is the base model LE with Toyo Tires on them assembled in Japan. so far I've been getting 45mpg even first 100 miles, I think these will wind up being much better on gas than people anticipate. I drive carefully but half highway half city so far. about 2 days worth of getting used to it. Great car, def worth the money. probably gonna sell out quickly. the drivetrain will last forever, and I got a great warranty on it 20 years. 200k:nerd:


My feeling is that during the summer the MPG of these will increase dramatically, just like in the Prius gen 2 which was might previous car, it would get 50mpg in the summer and 40 in the winter. I traded it in to the dealer this week averaging 40mpg now im getting 45 in an SUV. So I may see 50mpg in the summer, that's my prediction, having used a similar hybrid system before. well see. best car ive ever driver so far.
 
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says it’s getting 55mpg (I drive about half city half highway going less than 55mph due to traffic) I try to drive conservatively to make the most of the fuel economy, but it seems like these numbers are just too high to be true.
If it seems to be too good, it probably is...We've had our '19 Rav4 Hibrid about a month now and the onboard computer says we're getting 41 MPG. In almost every vehicle I've had, the "computer" reported mileage has always been 1-2% high. The only one that was right on the money was a 1999 Pontiac Grand Prix. The gas miles on that onboard computer was within a tenth of a gallon more or less than the regular method of deviding the miles since the previous refill with the gallons added to fill the tank.
 
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#5 ·
Oh, thanks QuickdToo for the info.

Is it relatively easy to disconnect the negative terminal of the auxiliary battery?

and, as I'm new to the forum, I don't know where the thread you mentioned is regarding the acoustic glass, can you please point me to it "There was a long discussion on this on R4W"?
12 Volt battery is under the cargo deck, fairly easy to access. The acoustic glass discussion is in this HV road test report:
https://www.rav4world.com/forums/20...5-electric-rav4-hybrid-ev/297203-test-drove-2019-rav4-hybrid-2.html#post2687195
 
#6 ·
As a side note...
We had several hybrid owners that had issues after 12V disconnection. Please, be aware of this and if you must do this, provide back up power. Normally, via power outlet inside the vehicle.Plenty of gizmos available to do so now.

12V is backup power storage for all crucial computers and electronics. If you need to reset a particular component, it is much better to locate its fuse and pull fuse out.




Also, this thread is:
Gas MPG in new 2019 Hybrid RAV4? MPG THREAD
Let's return it to the OP, please. Thread starts taking on too many directions.


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#12 ·
Topping off can get very expensive if you contaminate the charcoal canister with liquid fuel (meant for vapors only) . I would let the pump run until it turns itself off and no more. Your mileage will average out the same and maybe even higher. The original canister in my Echo had charcoal so saturated it sounded like rocks when you shook it. Toyota might even want to argue it as owner neglect if you keep topping off and it could cost a lot of time and frustration even if they pay for it. If not add money to the frustration.
 
#15 · (Edited by Moderator)
Love my new Rav4 Hybrid, minus a couple things. Anyone have thoughts as to why I am only averaging 33 to 34 mpg in my new Hybrid XLE, with "light to moderate" use of the gas pedal? I keep seeing all the great reviews on gas mileage, but I am not experiencing this. Even when I try to feather the gas pedal over a period of a week, it is still not getting over 35 mpg. Also, when I drive exclusively in-town over several days, the Rav only gets 27-28 mpg, which seems backwards. I have noticed when driving in-town it seems to leave electric mode real easy, that is, with barely any pressure on the gas pedal it switches over to gas. I live in an area with relatively flat terrain, minus some small rolling hills with minor incline. I spoke with the service department at my local Toyota shop and they chalked it up to the dealers mpg rating (38-41) being done under ideal conditions, and that the car would likely not achieve those numbers (somewhat humorous, but usually true). However, seems like others are achieving those numbers, and I am curious if the people in this thread are achieving their 40-plus mpg on completely flat terrain and with extremely light use of the gas pedal. Also, are people getting better gas mileage in-town or on the highway?

(Crossposted paragraph deleted. This is MPG thread)

Thanks, Rodney
 
#16 ·
Love my

Thanks, Rodney

Hoi Rodney how are ya doing? TOM here.
Let me tell ya I think you're car needs to be scanned with the dealer scan tool to check for computer and sensor errors. THat MPG is way too low for this car as you can read here.I am already getting 44mpg if I'm careful and I live in a hills area.



"they don't make 'em like they used to"
-TOM
 
#18 ·
If there will be need to have FWY vs CITY mpg discussed, I'll create new thread for this, as there will be many opinions on that too. Like it was in TCH or HiHy forums. So let me know but, for now - this is just to post your mpg. Surely, add specifics, as it varies widely per terrain, ambient temps, season, elevation, etc. But, to discuss specific mpg vs mpg - lemme know, I'll start that conversation for you.



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#19 ·
What Is Your Average Hybrid MPG?

I have averaged between 40.3 - 40.8 suburban driving with typical stop signs, traffic lights etc. Average speed 25 mph - 40 mph for 350 miles of the 479 miles I have logged on my Rav 4 hybrid 2019 XLE.

Freeway driving actually has been slightly higher (contrary to Toyota estimates of 37 freeway driving) over suburban driving at 41.0 average mpg.

I live at 4,400 ft above sea level, use 85 octane, try and keep the acceleration gradual in regular mode trying not to pass power on the instrument panel. (Eco mode for me has been the same as regular mode for average mpg)

Tell us your average and you secret to high average mileage.

Based on my driving strategy, I have topped out my average mpg and can’t seem to push it above 41.0 mpg on the freeway and between 40.3 - 40.8 suburban driving.
 
#21 ·
Toyota Rav 4 Hybrid MPG Is Not Correct.

We now have 762 miles on our 2019 Rav 4 XLE Hybrid and my observation has been Toyota is off on their highway mpg rating of 38 mpg, but pretty close on city and combined rating of 41 mpg and 40 mpg respectively.

Our Rav 4 at 4,400 ft above sea level using 85 octane fuel holds steady at 40.8 to 41 mpg on the interstate and city driving and our ratio has been approximately 65% interstate 35% city (suburban) driving.

The only time it dropped below 40.8 mpg is when I drove above 80 mph for at least 10 minutes on the interstate and hill climbs more than 10 minutes.

The absolute lowest average miles per gallon during the 762 miles of ownership has been 40.3 mpg and the high mark was 45.1 mpg after driving one hour in stop and go traffic on the interstate which I find is the selling point for a hybrid over a gasoline engine.

Stop and go is a fuel killer for gasoline only engines, but regenerative braking is what makes a hybrid a smart purchase in densely populated areas.
 
#22 ·
I'm getting 43-45mpg with Jersey hills with my Rav4 hybrid. I have a Hyundai Sonata hybrid and was way happy getting 43-47 mpg with a FWD sedan. I traded in my Hyundai Santa Fe 2.4L with 24 mpg on good weeks three years ago. Got this Rav4 in May and was amazed this big 4WD was getting 41 mpg the first tank and with 3800m around 44 mpg. An I go up and down some big hills. But now, I drive like a hybrid, rarely go above the "power" range.
But look at some of the gas versions getting 35-42 mpg. Now some state they were driving 50 mph on a long flat straight trip.
 
#23 ·
Mike, you live in a beautiful state.

43 to 45 mpg is impressive.

I also own a Rav 4 gas version 2016.

I can top out interstate driving 28 to 29 mpg if I don’t punch the gas peddle.

My complaint with the gas version Rav 4 is city driving which I get 23.5 mpg (not much better than a V6 Honda Pilot)

I would guess the 2019 gas version isn’t much improved over my 2016 in city driving.

What I love about our hybrid is city driving. I am blown away I can match freeway driving at 41 mpg around town.

I will be interested to know if my average mpg drops when the Utah Winters hit.

I read the nickel battery in the Rav 4 will do better in the cold vs. a ni-cad.
 
#28 ·
Are you driving City or Highway?

Better mileage is easy, use the "Eco" needle and keep it close to the Eco range when accelerating. Also, plan ahead avoid braking hard so the battery's can charge and the brakes don't engage wasting energy.

On the highway, again Eco mode helps. Also using the cruise control increases mileage. Goes without saying - lower speeds = better mileage.

Finally, make sure your tire pressure is correct.

We consistently get 44mpg combined city/highway. Drive about 70mph on the highway.
 
#32 ·
Just drive 30 miles combined city highway after resetting the Average MPG. Was able to get 50.2 MPG indicated after carefully using the ECO/Power meter (might have also drafted a semi a little ;)). Average speed was about 50MPH. Normally we see between 44-45MPG combined. On the highway drops to 41.
 
#34 ·
You either do manual mpg track based on miles/gallons (eg, fuelly) or you find long term average display data and never again reset them. In about a year that will average itself and start showing real mpg. Otherwise, you will be chasing ghosts with various mpg displays available. My 07 TCH had SEVEN different ways to show mpg, all different.
Ones you do NOT want to consider is Current and After Refueling. Tank mpg is no better, they are all subject to daily variables and 10% standard error.
 
#35 ·
You either do manual mpg track based on miles/gallons (eg, fuelly) or you find long term average display data and never again reset them. In about a year that will average itself and start showing real mpg. Otherwise, you will be chasing ghosts with various mpg displays available. My 07 TCH had SEVEN different ways to show mpg, all different.
Ones you do NOT want to consider is Current and After Refueling. Tank mpg is no better, they are all subject to daily variables and 10% standard error.
I'm pretty sure manually dividing your miles by how much gas you pump into the car is the only accurate method. Cars do not know how much fuel they are consuming with enough accuracy to give reliable MPG metrics.