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CONSOLIDATED MPG THREAD

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ALL MPG QUESTIONS, UNLESS IT'S A VERY UNIQUE AND SPECIFIC SITUATION, WILL BE HERE
 
#4 ·
Sorry don’t buy it at all. 2025 XLE lists $33,400 and premium package $3810 comes to $37,210. Then you add fees, taxes, tags, etc. Nice try but your off at least $4000 - $5000. And right now Toyota isn't dropping price (Memorial day sale or not) below sticker. 2025 Camry is in demand and “dealers” know it.
 
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MPG generally starts out low while breaking the engine/power train in on new vehicles. You'll get better MPG numbers once driven more than 2K miles or after 4 or 5 refills on the gas tank.

Window Stickers with MSRP for 2025 Camry XSE FWD and AWD fully loaded. Then compare it to my 2023 Camry XSE 3.5L V6.
Purchasing a 9th Gen. 2025 Camry Hybrid means you've been had by Toyota.

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#11 ·
You must really regret buying your car as you seem intent on commenting in this section about how great your 26mpg is compared to our 50mpg cars. You're happy driving yesterday's technology and that's great for you. Some of us prefer the most up to date safety and hybrid systems while we get our 50mpg. Oh, and for what's it's worth, the price of the 10/100,000 platinum warranty actually went DOWN to $1350 so Toyota must have quite a bit of confidence in this generation.
 
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We bought the XSE all wheel drive with pretty much every bell and whistle. With just over 2M miles on it, we're getting very good gas mileage. I'm sort of lead footed so my mileage is about 5 MPG worse than my wife's, who's the primary driver. She's getting 43-46 MPG. City driving is about 3 MPG better than freeway driving. Interestingly, I've found that driving in sports settings as compared to the normal setting only cost me about 1 MPG.
 
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I believe I'm at around 50 or 60 miles on my LE and I'm getting 29mpg according to the instrument cluster. It seems to be going up every time I drive so I'm hoping to actually get the 50mpg. I've been driving it a lot easier than I'm accustomed too until I reach that first 1000 miles but starting Monday it'll be taking me an hour each way to work going 80mph a good chunk of the way.
 
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I have a new 2025 Camry Hybrid XSE that just turned 4500 miles. My measured average gas mileage is 40.2 mpg, my worst leg 36 mpg, my best leg 44.1 mpg. The Toyota Sticker is 48 mpg combined, 48 mpg highway, 47 Highway.

I have always run ECO mode. Its mostly road trip miles running no more the 5 mph over posted speed and quite often less than posted speed (retired and mostly take non Interstates enjoying the countryside and small towns). Smooth driver who drives ahead. Tire Pressure 40 lbs cold which is what it was when I bought it. My last 4 cars I have always exceeded the sticker mileage due to smart driving.

What are you other 2025 Camry 2wd getting?
 
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I have a new 2025 Camry Hybrid XSE that just turned 4500 miles. My measured average gas mileage is 40.2 mpg, my worst leg 36 mpg, my best leg 44.1 mpg. The Toyota Sticker is 48 mpg combined, 48 mpg highway, 47 Highway.

I have always run ECO mode. Its mostly road trip miles running no more the 5 mph over posted speed and quite often less than posted speed (retired and mostly take non Interstates enjoying the countryside and small towns). Smooth driver who drives ahead. Tire Pressure 40 lbs cold which is what it was when I bought it. My last 4 cars I have always exceeded the sticker mileage due to smart driving.

What are you other 2025 Camry 2wd getting?
Just to be thorough you might check your odometer's accuracy, if it is under-reading that would contribute to a lower calculated mpg. Wind resistance increases as the cube of the wind speed, so at higher speeds both your road speed and the wind speed and direction substantially affect gas mileage. Though it's a different car, our 2019 Prius gets ~ 63mpg at 63mph but substantially less at 75mph. 75-80mph against a 25mph headwind puts it into the low-to-mid-40's (and a strong tail wind put's it right back up).

Tires make a difference, did it come with (or still have) low rolling resistance tires? Our Prius's mileage dropped from low 60's to high 40's when switching from the original tires to Michelin Defenders, and went right back up when we mounted new Dunlop Enasaves. Temperature, winter gas blend and wet roads also affect mileage, we get 2-3 mpg lower on wet roads. Small changes in fuel consumption show up as relatively large gas mileage differences on efficient cars - the fuel consumption difference between 48mpg and 40.2 mpg is ~ 0.41 gal. per 100 mi., on a 1000mi trip you'd burn 4.1 additional gal. Gas pumps don't always shut off at the same level, so beat to average your mileage over 5-10 fill ups from maybe 1/4 full.
 
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I also drive a 2025 XSE. I am currently averaging 55 mpg after 170 miles so far on this tank of gas. I hypermile.

I am not surprised with your numbers. The 19-inch wheels/tires on this car takes a toll on the mpg numbers. I am surprised the EPA of the XSE with 19-inch wheels is rated the same with the SE/XLE with 18-inch wheels.

The XSE easily gets the worse mileage with those heavy wheels. That is why I am looking forward to when I will go to 16-inch wheels.

I am sad to say it seems the Honda Accord beats the Camry in hybrid efficiency when it comes to city driving.

My last 2 vehicles for the past 4 years was a 2020 Accord and a 2024 Accord. Both with 17 inch wheels. I could get over 60 mpg from a tank of gas when I set my mind to hypermile. My norm was always getting over 55 mpg. Hypermiling.

I am really looking forward to my experience when I change to 16-inch wheels with my XSE. If the Accord is still better than the Camry, I will be disappointed because I always thought the Camry got better mpg than the Accord. But so far, my expectations have not been met. So, I am still giving the Camry a chance. I still have a while before I draw my personal conclusions.
 
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I also drive a 2025 XSE. I am currently averaging 55 mpg after 170 miles so far on this tank of gas. I hypermile.

I am not surprised with your numbers. The 19-inch wheels/tires on this car takes a toll on the mpg numbers. I am surprised the EPA of the XSE with 19-inch wheels is rated the same with the SE/XLE with 18-inch wheels.

The XSE easily gets the worse mileage with those heavy wheels. That is why I am looking forward to when I will go to 16-inch wheels.

I am sad to say it seems the Honda Accord beats the Camry in hybrid efficiency when it comes to city driving.

My last 2 vehicles for the past 4 years was a 2020 Accord and a 2024 Accord. Both with 17 inch wheels. I could get over 60 mpg from a tank of gas when I set my mind to hypermile. My norm was always getting over 55 mpg. Hypermiling.

I am really looking forward to my experience when I change to 16-inch wheels with my XSE. If the Accord is still better than the Camry, I will be disappointed because I always thought the Camry got better mpg than the Accord. But so far, my expectations have not been met. So, I am still giving the Camry a chance. I still have a while before I draw my personal conclusions.
I had the same way of thinking as you did with the wheels except mine continues to prove me wrong. I also have the 19” rims. 93* today with AC set to auto 67*. This is my commute home without a ton of focus on hypermiling.
 

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The door sticker recommends 35 psi; but yes, mine came 40 psi from the factory too and I just equated that to temperature differences and dropped the cold pressure to 35 psi (35 psi should be worse on fuel economy, better on the ride).

That said, I'm averaging 50.5 psi over 7 tanks of fuel on my '25 XLE AWD at 35 psi, mixed driving. Full 75+ mph highway driving with a passenger yields me ~47 mpg.
 
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Do you have some pictures to share of your odometer showing 50.5 mpg after a lot of miles? That would be nice to see. You are getting numbers that some people who drive the LE cannot get.

I am getting 55 mpg on my current tank of gas because I hypermile to get it. My top speed so far on this tank of gas has been only 65 mph, since I am watching my mpg.

I want to drive ny car until empty to see the most miles I can squeeze out of my tank of gas. I would like to see the mpg of those who have gotten over 700 miles from a tank of gas. It would be a plus to see those who have gotten over 750 or 800 miles from a tank of gas.

My 2024 Honda Accord Hybrid could get over 750 miles from its 12.8 gallons tank. My 2020 Honda Accord Hybrid could get over 800 miles out of its 12.8 gallon tank.
 
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Do you have some pictures to share of your odometer showing 50.5 mpg after a lot of miles? That would be nice to see. You are getting numbers that some people who drive the LE cannot get.
No; these are tank averages that I've calculated every time I've filled up and they are entered into Fuelly, so I know these are 100% accurate.

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I have no reason to doubt you. Taking the time to share your fuelly data is very well appreciated. They are honestly very good numbers that some people with the LE are not getting. Like I am currently getting 55 mpg after 180 miles and some people with the LE are not getting that number.

I do drive conservatively and like seeing good mpg numbers. If you ever take a picture like the one I have shared below, feel free to share. It is not a must. It is just if you wish to share it.

Here is a pic from one of my trips. I did 60 mpg on a 48 miles trip doing 40 to 65 mph. On that tank of gas, I was doing 56 mpg after 123 miles.

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Keep in mind hybrids work the opposite of regular cars, your best mileage will be in city driving not highway driving. Also I've come to realize you have to relearn how to drive to get the best mileage out of a hybrid. For instance, I've learned to coast to stops and downhills to get the best mileage. But in a hybrid taking your foot completely off the accelerator will put it in regen and slow the car down. It would be best to very lightly keep your foot on the accelerator to coast downhill so the car shuts off the engine, switches to electric but doesn't go into full regeneration braking.

Also things you can't control can greatly effect your mileage like driving into a head wind or the type of road surface. And sometimes it's unexplainable. I drive the same route back and forth to work everyday. In the morning the traffic is usually light and somedays I can get 37 mpg other mornings it's 31 mpg. Who knows.
 
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On my current tank of gas I am averaging 55 mpg after 205 miles.

Toyota claims we have a 13 gallon tank. Well, let me find out.

I want to drive this tank of gas until I feel I have used up 12 gallons of gas before I refuel. Something is off about this Toyota. Their gas tank size and their mileage claim. I need to find out if they correlate.

For example. Since I am currently averaging 55 mpg, I plan to refuel only at 55 X 12 = 660 miles on this tank of gas. To see how much gas will go back in the tank.

If my mpg is say 50 mpg on this tank of gas, then I will refuel at 50 X 12 = 600 miles.
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Someone tell me if my math is wrong here, but if Driver A drove 10,000 miles a year and averaged 45mpg by driving with no particular concern for their fuel economy, Driver B drove 10,000 miles a year and averaged 55mpg by focusing on hypermiling, and fuel cost $3.50/gal, then Driver A would've spent $140 more than Driver B did on on fuel that year.

Priorities are different for each of us.
 
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Some of us did not buy this car with the sole purpose of saving money. I bought it because I enjoy the way a hybrid drives.

Talk to owners of supercars and you will understand. 3 examples of supercars are Lamborghini, Ferrari, and Porche. Those cars are high-performance cars with heart pounding acceleration and scary top speeds. They are known for speed. But did the owners buy them because they wanted to be driving everywhere super fast? I do not think so. But do those owners push their cars to the limit once in a while? Yes, I think so.

Now, back to this awesome Camry Hybrid. It is known for being very gas efficient. Does that mean that everybody who bought it wanted to save gas? Nope. But some owners know the car is very efficient, and so they want to push the car to its limit to see how efficient it is. That is what the hypermilers want to achieve. Besides, anybody who drives this car normally and achieves more than the EPA number is hypermiling.

So, some owners of supercars want to push their cars to the limits to see how fast the cars can go. The same way that some people who buy a hybrid want to push the car to see how efficient the car can be. Hypermilers.

As you can see, it is not really about priorities.
 
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Are you reading the MPG off the dash or calculating it manually?

1st, I have a 2025 XSE. The sticker shows 48 MPG in the city, and the dash shows around 50 MPG; however, when calculated, the car only gets 33 MPG.

2nd, Toyota completes the break-in before installing the engines. However, they say the mpg will increase after the computer adapts to your driving habits.

Please manually calculate your MPG. The Dash readout is not accurate in any car.
 
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I've done three fillups since new, manually calculated each time and is within a few tenths of the per tank average readout I'm getting. When I do the lifetime reading, it's also within a few tenths. Every other car I've ever owned, including at least one Toyota, always over estimated the mileage to make the consumer feel better. Don't know if Toyota uses an actual flow meter or just measuring tank volume but they managed to hit the number, at least on my LE. You need to make sure you are running down at at least 1/4 tank, fillup at the same station and pump if you can, let it go at automatic cutoff and measure it across several tanks.

Don't know who told you they break in engines before installing, not the case, at least not in the Georgetown facilities. I believe they are more install, start the engine, measure oil pressure, power output, emissions, drive it out to shipping and shut it down. In reality, today's engines don't really have a break-in requirement but casting debris has plagued a number of manufacturers, including Toyota, which has led to them replacing hundreds of thousands of engines. That leads some of us to do an early oil change at ~1,000 miles but the 2.5L engine has not been a victim of the improper cleaning.
 
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EPA Guesstimate. Thank you Al Gore. take 10 % off the sticker for the real number. The method to get that is not like they put 5 gallons in the tank and drive until it's dry. Or drive it for 5,000 miles keeping track It's a marketing gimmick. Al Gore let any automaker with an American union take advantage of another loop hole. To get the CAFE number up, certain crossover SUV could be listed as a car or a station wagon ( infamously the 1995 Outback) could be listed as an SUV, whichever would fudge the numbers in the right direction. Raise your hand if you have ever been stuck behind one these high miling d.b. Karens? 45 on a hill, then they ride the brakes all the way down to keep the injectors in fuel cut as long as possible???