ALL OIL QUESTIONS WILL BE HERE
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Just bought me 2025 Camry SE a few weeks ago. And thinking about doing my break in oil change. I've seen online people using 0W-8 and some say just use the 0W-16 it be okay. And the oil filter I found some use 90915-YZZN1 or 90915-YZZF2. Anyone with my exact model did their first oil change yet? Please help.
Toyota officially says to use 0W-8. From the manual you received:
SAE 0W-8 is the best choice for
good fuel economy and good
starting in cold weather.
If SAE 0W-8 is not available,
SAE 0W-16 oil may be used
However, it must be replaced
with SAE 0W-8 at the next oil
change.
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I believe the filter is the same as the 2024 Hybrid Camry.
SAE 0W-8 is the best choice for
good fuel economy and good
starting in cold weather.
If SAE 0W-8 is not available,
SAE 0W-16 oil may be used
However, it must be replaced
with SAE 0W-8 at the next oil
change.
I believe the filter is the same as the 2024 Hybrid Camry.
I saw the Mobil 1 0W-8 in Walmart but it’s missing the GLVI certification for some reason?
It made me hesitant to use it. I’m going to stick with the factory labeled oil for a few oil changes and see if it works well for the engine. Unfortunately I’m at about 3000 miles and haven’t done the early oil change yet, I may just let the dealer do it at 5000 miles and take a sample of the oil for testing. I’m reluctant to just take Toyota’s word for it that this oil is going to be protective and great for this engine. I’ll test every 5000 miles and see the results. Also my wife does a lot of short trips around here so I want to see the fuel dilution and other telltale’s on whether it’s working properly.
It made me hesitant to use it. I’m going to stick with the factory labeled oil for a few oil changes and see if it works well for the engine. Unfortunately I’m at about 3000 miles and haven’t done the early oil change yet, I may just let the dealer do it at 5000 miles and take a sample of the oil for testing. I’m reluctant to just take Toyota’s word for it that this oil is going to be protective and great for this engine. I’ll test every 5000 miles and see the results. Also my wife does a lot of short trips around here so I want to see the fuel dilution and other telltale’s on whether it’s working properly.
If you're still open to oil filter suggestions, I've always had great luck with Wix filters. I like their engine, cabin, and oil filters. Project Farm tested the filters showing the engine and cabin filter performed well. Also, for oil filters, they seem to have a good micron rating too. I typically order a bunch on Rockauto and store them somewhere safe. If you end up using RockAuto don't forget to use the 5% off code. Here's a link to the post you may have to click jump to the latest.
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Went to the dealer at 5k to use one of my “free” oil changes. The receipt I got back was for $132. Is this what is expected outside of the maintenance plan or do they just mark it up a ton before they bill it back to corporate?
The dealership I went to never charged me that much. They only charged me around $70 per oil change that wasn't covered under the free maintenance and the prepaid maintenance.
From what have heard is that dealers typically only consider 10K and 20K oil changes as part of the "free" maintenance...
It does not mater of your use falls under the severe schedule... So they charged you their normal oil change fee.
In my case I won't make 10K in a year but the "normal" schedule says 10K OR 1 year...
I plan to have my oil changed at 1K and 6 months outside of a dealership and take it to them at 1 year... and if THAT is not covered to raise a stink with Toyota Corporate.
- Karen
It does not mater of your use falls under the severe schedule... So they charged you their normal oil change fee.
In my case I won't make 10K in a year but the "normal" schedule says 10K OR 1 year...
I plan to have my oil changed at 1K and 6 months outside of a dealership and take it to them at 1 year... and if THAT is not covered to raise a stink with Toyota Corporate.
- Karen
That's the price they want you to see, makes you feel as though you are getting something really expensive for free. They then bill Toyota a set charge that Toyota allows. It's not uncommon to find Toyota oil changes on sale from dealerships for $59 and up, even cheaper if you pre-purchase multiple changes.
5 Quarts 0W-8 Mobile 1 oil at Wally World: $27. Toyota oil filter from dealer: $6. 33 bones to change it. But had to get ramps, torque wrench... Still a good deal over time, and no sitting in a stuffy dealership waiting room with people who don't chat at all. No fun to be had at ALL there.
I'm a tool-aholic, the Avalon I got in Sept 2020, Before used car prices went crazy gave me an excuse to get some new tools and gadgets all while the deals were really hot in 2021. I don't have a spouse to ream me out or put me in the dog house for spending on tools which I didn't absolutely need. 
2 Oil changes and everything I bought to make it easier was paid for in savings. Every oil change now is me getting paid. Inflation may go up but my tools don't. and they don't depreciate. Can probably sell tools I bought 20 years ago for twice what I paid. The Avy is still worth more than I paid even with prices going down.
Oil and other maintenance things are more expensive in Canada. I loaded up in 2021 when the deals were less than half price. Oil, oil/air/cabin filters I'm good for at least 3 years without buying any.
There's work involved in DIY but knowing what went in and what was really done or not is not guess work. Being OCD means I triple check to make sure everything is done. Many folks here have their own way of doing stuff to make sure they added the oil before starting it up. I place the 5L jug so that closing the hood is impossible.
2 Oil changes and everything I bought to make it easier was paid for in savings. Every oil change now is me getting paid. Inflation may go up but my tools don't. and they don't depreciate. Can probably sell tools I bought 20 years ago for twice what I paid. The Avy is still worth more than I paid even with prices going down.
Oil and other maintenance things are more expensive in Canada. I loaded up in 2021 when the deals were less than half price. Oil, oil/air/cabin filters I'm good for at least 3 years without buying any.
There's work involved in DIY but knowing what went in and what was really done or not is not guess work. Being OCD means I triple check to make sure everything is done. Many folks here have their own way of doing stuff to make sure they added the oil before starting it up. I place the 5L jug so that closing the hood is impossible.
Doesn't feel cheap I suppose. Mobile one filter is just a lot heavier and taller. I shouldn't say cheap. If it works correctly that's what matters.
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I'll add that I "had" to take my 2025 LE to the dealer. Quite a rattle in the right door. Made me sad. The dealer fixed it. Yeah. So, with 1,400 on the odometer and being way old not wanting to crawl under, I asked the dealer to change the filter and oil. It won't use any colorful expressions. $60 in labor. Another $130 in oil, filter and "parts". I think they saw me coming. Rattle is fixed though.
You would think that dealerships would realize that your experience in the service department often influences your using their sales department. Modern dealerships would rather fleece the multitude one time than sell to a loyal customer base many times. There are some good dealerships out there, but they are few and far between.
Like Karen001, I most likely won't have the 10K on the car by the time a year is up and on the fence whether I'll crawl under the car to do it at 5K like I'd want to. I'm old also and so fumbly. My garage looks like a mess when I do the easy changes on my bikes from spilling etc.
But, we've paid for those "free" changes at the two first years when we bought the car and will take it there when the year is up.
But, we've paid for those "free" changes at the two first years when we bought the car and will take it there when the year is up.
Everyone's got their own way of getting their oil changed. I'm thinking I'll never go to the dealer for it. I'm putting my own choice of oil in it, probably every 3 or 4000 miles. Would be more of a pain to drive there and wait for an hour and then drive back.
There no way I can go 3-4000 miles between oil changes. I'm barely driving 700-800 last 2 years. I did go 2 1/2 years last oil change and that was really pushing common sense past it's boundaries. 5 years
I just had my first oil change at the dealership, 2,200 miles. I always get an early oil change to get that break in oil and metal particles out of the engine. Usually do it a little sooner, I paid for it because it was outside of the pre-paid service. $154 it was about 2x what I expected, but it’s full synthetic. Honestly I’m on the side of preventative maintenance is cheaper than an issue in the future, I’m expecting to keep this car till the wheels fall off.
Mobil 1 oil at Walmart and a Toyota oil filter round up to $40 after tax. The dealer charges $70 so I am willing to pay the extra $30 so l don't have to do it, they check everything out (which they found a leaking oil pan gasket and fixed that), and then you are a loyal customer with your service writer and the dealer service department so if something goes wrong they will lean more towards helping you as you have become a ""Loyal Customer". And since they recommend good ideas like coolant flush, trans fluid change (drain and fill only), etc. then if something goes wrong they are on the hook for it.
Well, I'm honestly happy for you. I would state that your are in the minority.
Maybe it's because you've only been on the forum a short time but I highly doubt the dealership sees you as a loyal customer. I'm pretty sure he/they see you as a cash cow that keeps on giving. And when you walk in the service manager will probably be really happy to seeyou oupps I meant your credit card and either make up or have his wrench monkey look at where they can milk their cash cow. YOU!
You also don't have your vehicle info listed in your signature. It's important for people to know what you're driving. There are many members that post advice/comments in sections they don't own. Heck some don't even have a Yota.
And when you mention "They found a leaking oil pan gasket" Did you notice an oil leak or stain below the engine bay where you park? If not then you got milked. It's a common scam.
AS for if something goes wrong; they're only on the hook if you can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that it was their doing. You can't prove a shop monkey is the one that broke an unrelated connector. He will state he found a broken connector, skim you some more money, you'll go home feeling like you were special and they will have a good laugh at your expense when you're gone.
Spend a couple years on the forum and read 10,000 posts and you'll have a better view of why we DIY. The $30 savings you state is more for most people and knowing what was done or not is worth 10 times that $30 you save.
P.S. To you and for all members:
If you haven't already done it; Please take a moment and add your vehicle(s) info Year/Model in your signature at a bare minimum. It's considered a useful sign of respect to other members.
Maybe it's because you've only been on the forum a short time but I highly doubt the dealership sees you as a loyal customer. I'm pretty sure he/they see you as a cash cow that keeps on giving. And when you walk in the service manager will probably be really happy to see
You also don't have your vehicle info listed in your signature. It's important for people to know what you're driving. There are many members that post advice/comments in sections they don't own. Heck some don't even have a Yota.
And when you mention "They found a leaking oil pan gasket" Did you notice an oil leak or stain below the engine bay where you park? If not then you got milked. It's a common scam.
AS for if something goes wrong; they're only on the hook if you can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that it was their doing. You can't prove a shop monkey is the one that broke an unrelated connector. He will state he found a broken connector, skim you some more money, you'll go home feeling like you were special and they will have a good laugh at your expense when you're gone.
Spend a couple years on the forum and read 10,000 posts and you'll have a better view of why we DIY. The $30 savings you state is more for most people and knowing what was done or not is worth 10 times that $30 you save.
P.S. To you and for all members:
If you haven't already done it; Please take a moment and add your vehicle(s) info Year/Model in your signature at a bare minimum. It's considered a useful sign of respect to other members.
Just buy the oil and filter from Toyota and keep the receipt if you do it yourself. I did a 500 mile oil change, poured the extra 1/2 quart in to drain out, then just take it to the dealer for warranty compliance.
I went to the Toyota dealer for the "free winter checkup" on my 2022 Avalon with 20,000 miles. The service person came back and said I needed the fuel system cleaned out, the brakes flushed and the cabin filter changed all to the tune of $690. I told him I would speak to my spouse about it. (always a good delay factor). In reality I called the local service man I go to for services and he said all I need is the cabin filter change at $71.12 total cost. The dealer here in Arkansas is notorious for over charging and taking advantage of customers. I still have warranty on the car, so I will go back to get a new tire sensor battery next week and then go there never again.
Bought my 2023 Camry XLE a little over two years ago. Went back faithfully to take advantage of the 2 year Toyota care. First one @ 6 months w/1400 miles. I was surprised when they did an oil change. Again at 1 yr. (2300miles) and they did a 10K change. At 2 yr. (6000 miles) I took it in thinking they would do another oil change, but when i got the car back, they didn't do it. I asked them why not and they said it wasn't due yet. I explained that it had been two years and they agree to do a 20K service, which included a cabin air filter. Since the car only had 6K on it I told them that I would like the old cabin filter (so I could use it later) and they actually left the old one in and put the NEW one in the trunk. Thank you, Gates Toyota in South Bend, IN.
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