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Coolant leaking from floor pan drain plug

6.2K views 20 replies 5 participants last post by  XtRaSlo  
#1 ·
As title states, the car started running warm, pulled over to find reservoir was empty . Filled up with some toyota pink and made it home.(20 miles) Half the reservoir is left and when i checked under the car, i saw fresh pink coolant leaking from under the driver side seat area out of a rubber plug. Anyone know where I should start looking? I've already ordered a new radiator, thermostat, hoses and water pump.
Weird how I had a gut feeling today that something cooling related was gonna happen

Edit: nothing seems to be leaking at the water pump or radiator hoses
 
#4 ·
Out of what rubber plug are you saying you saw the pink coolant leaking? There is a rubber hose that allows the condensation from the A/C evaporator coil to drain out. I've replaced the evaporator core on a Gen 3 Camry, but never on the Gen 9 Corolla and I'm unaware if the heater core and the evaporator core share the same drain hose or if a heater core even has a drain hose or "plug". Here's a photo of the drain hose about which I'm discussing (it's near the exhaust pipe). You can see the A/C condensation dripping out of it:

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#5 ·
The only internal leak I can think of would be on the passenger front where the HVAC housing water drain tube normally drips onto the pass side of the vehicle. That hose is common to come off inside the vehicle allowing it to leak onto the pass side floor. But yours is leaking internally on the driver side?
 
#7 ·
From what I can see in my online Chilton manual (take Chilton with a grain of salt, btw) it is quite a big job. Not sure why yours was leaking other than lack of proper maintenance of the cooling system. I have over 380K miles on my Corolla and have never replaced anything in the cooling system besides the P-HOAT coolant/antifreeze on a regular basis. No problems.
 
#8 ·
It is a huge job to replace the heater core, the entire dash and steering wheel have to come out. Nightmarish mess. I did see one comment where the DIYer was contemplating cutting the two aluminum pipes so that the heater core would slide out of the plastic box without removing everything, then, he would have attached longer heater hoses to re-make the connection. He never followed up. I would consider that route if faced with heater core replacement. IF you do this please post the job so all can benefit.
 
#9 ·
I did see one comment where the DIYer was contemplating cutting the two aluminum pipes so that the heater core would slide out of the plastic box without removing everything, then, he would have attached longer heater hoses to re-make the connection. He never followed up. I would consider that route if faced with heater core replacement. IF you do this please post the job so all can benefit.
I love it when creative people can come up with innovative ways to make a repair job less laborious. Would like to see a DIY for that alternative technique.
 
#10 ·
Realistically, if you could somehow access behind the shifter without removing the upper section of the dash, it would be heck of easier.

Unfortunately, this isn't the case.

Top dash and lower dash will have to come out. The steering wheel could stay in place. On the driver's side, you just need to remove the cluster and the side vent to access the hardware for the lower part of the dash.

Disconnect the air bag connector and you can leave the passenger air bag in place. Don't forget the A pillar covers for more access.
 
#11 ·
GUYS (and GALS)
found an interesting channel on youtube, I've used his diys before for reference and it seems that this method is a viable option. This video was performed on a camry but looking at the matrix, it looks like the same concept can be applied
Camry heater core DIY
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#20 ·
GUYS (and GALS)
found an interesting channel on youtube, I've used his diys before for reference
In a few of this videos he's wearing a toyota tech type shirt and has a video called "visiting my old place of work" which looked like a toyota dealership, and a lot of his videos are on different types of toyotas
I've seen some of his (Fix It Angel) videos. He never speaks or says anything, but might put some info typed out on the screen. There are some who like that he never talks because some of the YouTube mechanics just talk and talk and talk and never get to the point (and perhaps love to hear themselves speak?). On the other hand, the talking often has a lot of good information, so take his videos for what they're worth (which is usually a lot). There's also a repair shop in Taiwan which does videos showing whole jobs without saying a word. Problem is there are little to no explanatory captions like how Fix It Angel does. The videos are still helpful, though. The name of the channel is: mesing2005

Here's the link to the channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC44zMBXJ-dPJc-9VkdAZl6w
 
#12 ·
Great find on that video XtRaSlo! That guy on the video is a genius. I did not know that the aluminum heater pipes were crimped on at the heater core, and that they can be uncrimped like a bottle cap! The key to his repair is the 'hi-temp' silicone gasket sealer.

In case you are wondering about the long term reliability of this type of repair consider the following story: I bought two volvo diesels with 90,000 miles and bad heater hoses. There was a 7/8 stub out on the engine and 5/8 heater stub out at the fire wall, the 'official hose' was belled on one end and needed a 90 degree turn towards the firewall, a truly weirdo hose. It was not availble anywhere except 'The Death Star Volvo Stealership'. Four such 12 inch heater hoses at the stealership cost $134 dollars. I made hose replacements with a 90 degree copper plumbing adapter (its ID necked down a 7/8 truck heater hose to 5/8 car hose). I smeared the metal to rubber connections with blue silicone 'hi-temp' gasket material followed by hose clamping, total cost for all four hoses, ~$20.00. Both cars made it to ~225,000 miles with this repair in place, and both eventually went to junkyard heaven with their heater hoses still functioning.

The uncrimping inside the car looks somewhat difficult. You can also think about just cutting the metal pipes, de-burring, and joining them with a repair sleeve made of a 1-1.5 inch long piece of 5/8 heater hose. Smear all the connections with hi-temp silicone gasket sealer. This type of repair will function just like a 'glued in' PVC pipe coupling. The clamps may not actually be needed, but they represent a cautious 'belt and suspenders' type of approach.
 
#14 ·
Ouch. Angel's 'uncrimping' method might not work on a Matrix heater core, remember, he was working on a Camry. Unfortunately, a Vibe heater core removal (identical to Matrix and Corolla) video shows that the crimped aluminum pipes are pointing upward, not outwards towards the door. Check at 21'min 34"s. This could be a serious problem for 'uncrimping'. Might cutting and splicing still work?

Here is is the video (Vibe but it should be identical):

Check out the massive disassembly required, he reviews it at 21'00". Not just the steering wheel. The whole steering column had to come out! He was just able to avoid depressurizing the 'freon' in the A/C!!! (but Toyota officially recommends that step!!!).

Good luck. Let us know if there is an alternative to complete Steering & Dash Removal.
 
#16 ·
Interesting. Good fortune has smiled upon you. That was a 2003 Vibe in the video. Maybe there was a small change in orientation after 2003 or, it was always different in Corolla/Matrix.

One more suggestion, if you buy a coil of generic 5/8" heater hose you could go continously from the engine through the firewall and clamp the end of the hose onto a 1"-2" 'cut-off' stub at the heater core (using sealant). No interruptions or splices are involved. Zip ties could be used to secure the hoses so they do not flop around. No crimping and un-crimping required.

Could it be that simple, when Toyota recommends a complicated disassembly of the interior shown in the Vibe video and the discharging of the AC system?
 
#17 ·
They never want to show the easy way. Use of the official book time for the job and then do some Mickey mouse job to cover. This is why YouTube is a valuable tool for DIY and education.

If they gave away all their secrets, they'd be looking for work like everyone else.
 
#18 ·
In a few of this videos hes wearing a toyota tech type shirt and has a video called "visiting my old place of work" which looked like a toyota dealership, and a lot of his videos are on different types of toyotas
Most likely gonna fart around with it on sunday
Playlist for different DIYs