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Crank No Start Then Coolant Leak

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#1 ·
Hi all,

I have a 1997 Toyota Camry 2.2. Drove fine the night before, woke up in the morning to go to work and I believe it started for a couple of seconds and then died (blower motor was on high, didn't even tell it died at first). Cranked a little bit 2-3 tries at less than five seconds each, nothing, weird. Took the truck to work. Got home in the afternoon to look at it, found a purple wire that was broken but looked like it had been for a while, fixed, tried it once... nothing. Checked fuses, all good. Turned key on, checked for power at the fuel pump, has power. Try it again 2-3 tries around five seconds each, hear a loose part sound (metal on plastic kind of sound), hop on and it's gushing coolant on the ground on the backside of the timing belt cover. Got me thinking the water pump had locked up and maybe the engine wasn't spinning fast enough to start but tach was moving upwards, didn't sound like it was struggling. Take wishbone off, alternator, top timing belt cover and the belt is no longer tight. The belt however is not broken. Rotate the balancer over to 0* and check the cam timing and it looks like it is still in time...

So, I have an Aisin TKT-002 kit on the way along with a Fel-Pro TCS45920 seal set. I also have a banjo bolt adapter with a schrader coming so I can easily check fuel pressure with my gauge. I am just curious if I am missing something?? The car was running fine and was only parked for 8 hours, so I wouldn't think fuel pump and I don't think I cranked on it long enough to damage anything like blowing up the water pump:oops:. When rotating the crank by hand even after the coolant leak I only feel compression (will take spark plugs out when I do the timing belt and water pump).

Also, even though it appears the timing marks are aligned, could it possibly still be out of time I.E. somehow the crank made a full revolution without the cam moving?

Thanks!
 
#3 ·
^ Agree, do your T-Belt and seal job first and get set and then go from there. Anything is possible at this point, an older t-belt will stretch over time as the tensioner is not self-adjusting and with your coolant acting as a lubricant fro a failed water pump, sure your belt could of slipped. You'll know when you pull your covers and check your marks if anything slipped.

Its up to you but I would consider replacing the t-stat while your are there as well as tensioner spring as I don't think the TKT-002 comes with either.

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#4 ·
Since you seem to have confirmed your mechanical timing is OK, I would eliminate the possibility that these two incidents are not related, just coincidental.

Remove the spark plugs and have a friend turn the engine over and observe if any coolant comes out of the spark plug holes. If you have a compression gauge it would not hurt to test compression.
 
#5 ·
Thanks for the quick replies! Yeah, I have most of everything off, going to work on getting everything off today. Did not get off work early enough to do much but post on here yesterday.

Did not realize that the Aisin kit didn't come with a tensioner spring, looks like there are two springs that could possibly be it, before I order one, does anyone know the exact part number for the correct spring? Read something somewhere where the 10 coil is outdated or something?

Plan is to get the timing and water pump done, set up the schrader kit out of the fuel filter, turn the key on check for pressure, if good pressure go ahead, and try starting/ check spark.

There's nothing special about timing it right? Just align the marks and it's good? I've done a couple timing belts but never had one where it could potentially be off. I'll know more once I completely get it stripped and cleaned up but just curious if there was more to it then just lining the marks back up.