OK, because of ridiculously high gas prices my government will be introducing ethanol to our 87 octane gas, 10% to be exact. The new mixture will be called E10, my question is : can I use this mixture with my Tacoma ?

5% here in Canada starting in 2010. I would assume it is fine in the vehicles, or they wouldn't make it required (but you know what happens when you assume). But from what I understand it decreases fuel efficiency.

EDIT:

I stand corrected. I found this article. Looks like it affects older (1990 and earlier) vehicles more than the newer ones.

"More costly than the reduction in mpg, is the damage and negative effects alcohol gasoline can have on engines and parts.
Consumers have not been properly educated on E10 and often are unaware of actions they must take to prevent problems from ethanol fuels...".

"Mechanical problems when using alcohol fuels are common, especially in older engines when switching from non-alcohol to alcohol gasoline. The release of years of accumulation of rust, sediment, and other material in your engine, will also be removed and released or dissolved or disintegrated from your engine and engine parts - Result is costly repairs from clogged filters, disintegration and drying of parts (especially rubber and plastic) and numerous other malfunction of motors caused by ethanol/alcohol."


http://www.fuel-testers.com/2_mpg_e10_gas.html

 

as far as i know the truck will be fine. your drop in mpg will be noticeable though. also, my truck seemed a little sluggish after filling up with the E10 (10%) mixture.

 

If you check your owner's manual, it will state that you may use UP TO 10% Ethanol without a problem. Anything over 10% harms newer engines (unless designed for it) which is why you don't see governments adding more than 10%.

So, don't worry. Along with lower gas mileage you'll be buying an extra gallon of fuel with every tank because of the decreased gas mileage resulting in more taxes paid to the government...just their way of increasing tax revenues!

 

See my post on this thread (post #79)
http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/showthread.php?t=267669&page=6

 

it will do no harm. im pretty sure that all of us out here in california are already running that blend. this state is full of tree loving hippies!!

now, dont use E85, that WILL jack your engine!

 

OK, what I've gathered so far is E10 will lower engine performance and actually reduce mpg. So what is the point of it ? I mean they say they are adding ethanol to reduce our gas consumption but if E10 burns faster than gasoline how does that make sense ? You just end up filling up more often, it might be cheaper but if you fill up more often it doesn't make sense to me. Just plain old 'feel good' politics if you ask me.

 

Corn lobby LOVES E10.

 

We have 10% in all gas here by law as well.

 

I have run E10 in my 4.0 since day one, except for a recent trip to Nebraska when I couldn't get any. I didn't get any real difference in performance or millage when comparing.

 

NH has had 10% ethanol for a few years now, I've been enjoying decreased MPG ever since. It won't harm the engine though. However, I have heard reports of it doing terrible damage to small engines where it sits for a long time (like a weed wacker or lawn mower), apparently, it will damage seals.

 

Ah, another person from NH.

I've been using E10 since I started driving, we've had it for quite a while up here in NH.

 

been in new york for forever.

 

10% at all Shell gas stations here, it sucks.

 

I recently drove from Pittsburgh to Ocean City Md, there were quite a few E10 stations (commonly known as Gasahol). I accidently bought some because of the price but stopped as soon as I realized what it was. I got probably 2/3 of a tank but saw no loss in performance or mileage. Probably not a good example since it was all highway cruising.

I guess we can use Gasahol but not E85.

Corn is for eating not driving!

 

wow u guys should be in new york.they always used 10% through the summer. now they use it all year round. no avoiding it. been like that for quite a while.

 

i've used it no issue in performance or mileage.

when i put it in, i made a mental note to compare the mileage to the previous tank.

driving style, air temp were all reletively the same. no material difference in mpg.

 

My scangauge shows me that ethanol hits my mpg pretty significantly.

I go to a station that advertises no ethanol and with that gas my fuel adjustment on the scangauge is accurate at around 2% offset. If I gas up with 10% ethanol I need to adjust the fuel offset to around 8%. That's around a 6% reduction in mpg.:thumbsdow

 

Which is what.... 1 mpg?

 

We started getting notices on all of the pumps here locally about a year ago saying that it May contain up to 10% ethanol by volume". I have noticed the reduction in gas mileage. I haven't had any problems running it in my boat though.

 

I haven't had any problems running it in my boat though.

It's not the running that gets to boats, it's the sitting. If ethanol sits in a tank for around 3 months, it starts to collect water. I don't really know all the details, but I know that if it gets to that point, you have to pump out the tank. Ethanol also disintegrates fiberglass tanks which are found on older, cheaper boats.

 

I hate ethanol. Why produce it only to make crops cost more? I'd rather pay more for gas than food given the choice.

 

No E10 here in upstate NY, but trips to VA and NH, I always look for the sticker and try to avoid. Over years have checked the diff. While its fine to run in your truck, you instantly lose 1-1.5 mpg in the Tacoma. Wifes car loses 2-2.5. Got 34 mpg on way out Wed to NH, as expected, got 31.5 today returning same speed. The .10 'saved' per gallon of course costs us more...

 

well here on long island its all 10%

dont forget your way home u are going up in elevation. your truck is climbing gradually the whole way home. thus a loss in mpg. just another theory. most people dont realize. especially up here in the north east.

 

Im plauged with the stuff everywhere i look here in northern VA. All ive heard is that how 100% gasoline gives you better MPG and performance, but ive never known any different from the E10.

 

10% ethanol at most gas stations around here. Damn hippies.:smokin: