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Engine stop start in 2021+ Corollas and Corolla Cross

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#1 ·
I just watched the Corolla Cross video preview from Alex on Autos where he mentioned that the Corolla Cross he was testing in Austin Texas last summer had auto stop start and it shut the engine off on a hot and humid day despite the A/C running and therefore the feature disregards your cabin comfort.

I have heard that other cars will keep the engine running if you are actively trying to heat or cool the cabin. The Corolla doesn’t?

Without having to remember to disable it every time you start the vehicle, can you control it with brake pedal pressure on the Corolla like you can with the Highlander? On the Highlander, the auto stop doesn’t get triggered unless you use firm brake pedal when you come to a stop.
 
#5 ·
All Corolla Cross in Canada are listed as having this stupid start stop technology and from the reviews I've seen you have to disable it manually every time. It's a major reason why we didn't even consider the Corolla Cross and another one of those for the environment improvements that help no one except the bean counters trying to meet some illogical government requirement.

There is no world where having your ICE stop and start automatically to save a fraction of a % in gas, is a good thing for the consumer.
 
#7 ·
It’s not horrible for the engine, and it does actually save a bit of gas especially if you spend a lot of time idling. One of the biggest reasons for it(particularly for Ford, who is the worst offender of start/stop) is because the test route the EPA uses to measure fuel economy benefits very significantly from it.
 
#24 ·
Before this thread gets any deeper into the subject that is supposed to be in another thread (which also got sidetracked to different subjects), are there any Corolla Cross owners here who can directly answer the questions about the engine stop start?

I haven‘t seen any threads where someone said they actually purchased a US-spec Corolla Cross even though the vehicle has been out for a few months.
 
#26 ·
Given everything you just wrote, with the risk of sounding like an ass ... id say your best bet now is to hop in one and take er 4 a spin... kinda seems like the questions have been exhausted and you could really wrap this up just trying one out ? Just sayin 🤷
 
#27 ·
All of your dealers must be flooded with cars to be able to take a spin and test drive. The cars here are already sold before they hit the lot so test driving is non existent here.

If you want AC operational if the engine stops, get a hybrid. No ICE car that I know of runs the AC with the engine off. You need the engine to run the compressor. Heating is fine as long as the car is up to temp. The blower fan would still run in either case.

The Auto start/stop is annoying, but keep in mind it's trying to train you to be a more efficient driver as well. If it kicks off at every stop you are too heavy with the brake. If I drive smooth our Forester can go an entire trip without kicking off. If I get heavy on the brakes it can kick off every single time. It's not so bad once you figure it out. And our Forester is probably the worst auto start/stop out there. If you don't like it buy a delete harness or hit the switch every time.
 
#28 ·
I just wanted to see if there were any Corolla Cross or Corolla with stop start (is it only on 2021 and 2022 models with the 2.0 engine?) who have experience with it and can verify that it can also be controlled by brake pressure at stops.
Some vehicles can also prevent engine shut off based on certain HVAC settings, putting the vehicle in Sport mode or turning the steering wheel off center.
 
#34 ·
Yes, renting before buying is highly recommended.

By chance we rented a Corolla HB while traveling. Gave us the chance to live with the car for a few days, we found out firsthand the amount of space, fuel usage, and how comfortable it is for longer distance use. The best part was when we took the HB to a deserted road on a mountain side. It was like a dream come true because the road was scenic, narrow, twisted, no traffic, and no cops. That was the road I discovered how surprisingly good this new Corolla can handle aggressive driving, and it was on stock everything. When it came time to buy, we already knew what we wanted. And there is the bonus of no need to deal with a sales person until you are ready.
 
#35 ·
2022 Toyota Corolla Cross is a nice SUV, with back seat leg room being 2 inches longer than Corolla Hatchback. There is a lot more space in the seats for people and more cargo space, and It just feels like more substantial vehicle. Seating in the front seats is comparable to Camry. I can comment only on XLE model with FWD where seats are wider than regular Corolla sedan. It gives almost the same gas millage like the hatchback-I have been getting up to 41.5 MPG on the highway and 26-27 MPG in the city. If weather is nice with temperatures above 55 degrees, you can get good gas millage. 26-27 MPG is the millage that I get when I drive in short distances of 3 miles or so...I chose the XLE model because of all safety tech in it plus better seats and "luxury" upgrades such as full led headlights, auto-dimming mirror, heated seats.....The ride is not as precise as the hatchback because this is SUV after all. There is a good information about the car on corollacross.com website.
 
#36 ·
I don't think the U.S. version of the Corolla Cross has the engine start/stop feature (thankfully). Having driven some rentals with engine start/stop systems, I personally would never buy a vehicle that had it.