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Flat tire @ 4k miles!! Should I replace the crappy Toyo J33 tires with a better set?

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Ok, I've usd the Search button but didn't give any good info. Anyway, I got a flat tire that cannot be repatched. I've been hearing that the Toyo Proxes 215/55/17R that comes stock with the 07 camry se is between $200-$300 a pop. Can anyone verify this before I go to the dealership tomorrow? I checked at Pepboys and theire Venturis brand is roughly $150, V-rated. Would it be better to stick with tires that are all the same brand and rating, or could I just get a no-name brand and put it on there?

Thanks in advance.
 
#2 ·
MCeatalot said:
Ok, I've usd the Search button but didn't give any good info. Anyway, I got a flat tire that cannot be repatched. I've been hearing that the Toyo Proxes 215/55/17R that comes stock with the 07 camry se is between $200-$300 a pop. Can anyone verify this before I go to the dealership tomorrow? I checked at Pepboys and theire Venturis brand is roughly $150, V-rated. Would it be better to stick with tires that are all the same brand and rating, or could I just get a no-name brand and put it on there?

Thanks in advance.
Usually, the tires the comes with the vehicle new does not last as long and it's low quality tire.

I recommend going to...

http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/home.do

or

if you have membership, go here...

http://www.costco.com/

They have very good selection of tires at low prices and excellent customer service and warrenty.
 
#3 ·
secrecyguy said:
Usually, the tires the comes with the vehicle new does not last as long and it's low quality tire.

I recommend going to...

http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/home.do

or

if you have membership, go here...

http://www.costco.com/

They have very good selection of tires at low prices and excellent customer service and warrenty.
Thanks for the input. I was under the impression that the Toyo tires that comes with the Camry are excellent quality. So should I stick with the same brand then?
 
#4 ·
MCeatalot said:
Thanks for the input. I was under the impression that the Toyo tires that comes with the Camry are excellent quality. So should I stick with the same brand then?
The Toyos that come with some Camrys are on the low end. They are not Proxes or T1rs.
 
#5 ·
akira751 said:
The Toyos that come with some Camrys are on the low end. They are not Proxes or T1rs.
The set that came with mine are the Proxes J33, summer performance tires. I'm trying to get as much information as I can today so I won't have to shell out $200+ on just 1 tire, when I can invest that on a new set that are more reliable. I've been researching these tires online and so far, not a lot of good reviews.
 
#6 ·
MCeatalot said:
The set that came with mine are the Proxes J33, summer performance tires. I'm trying to get as much information as I can today so I won't have to shell out $200+ on just 1 tire, when I can invest that on a new set that are more reliable. I've been researching these tires online and so far, not a lot of good reviews.
They are crap, Change them if you get Toyos get Proxes 4 or T1rs
 
#7 ·
akira751 said:
They are crap, Change them if you get Toyos get Proxes 4 or T1rs

QQ. The thought of replacing all 4 tires on a 1 1/2 month old car saddens me. I've been reading up on other forums (Lexus) and they say the same about the J33s. Any recommendations on a good set of tires that doesn't cost too much?
 
#8 ·
MCeatalot said:
QQ. The thought of replacing all 4 tires on a 1 1/2 month old car saddens me. I've been reading up on other forums (Lexus) and they say the same about the J33s. Any recommendations on a good set of tires that doesn't cost too much?
Like someone said before check the wholesale club stores. Hell my OEM tires got pulled off real quick. For me good tires are worth the price:)
 
#12 ·
akira751 said:
They are crap, Change them if you get Toyos get Proxes 4 or T1rs
Toyo Proxes are great .... I have the Proxes 4 on my Camry & the Proxes TPT on my ES300 ... both are excellent tires ... ahndling, performance in weather, & treadwear!
 
#13 ·
i never knew they came with toyo's. which are better .. the toyo's they come with or the michelins ?

anywho im not sure about the higher end tires that were recommended but i replaed the michelins mxv4's on our gen5 with a set of Toyo Versado luxury touring tires. all i have to say is im never going back to the michelins! very quiet and smooth.
 
#14 ·
CamrySExxx said:
i never knew they came with toyo's. which are better .. the toyo's they come with or the michelins ?

anywho im not sure about the higher end tires that were recommended but i replaed the michelins mxv4's on our gen5 with a set of Toyo Versado luxury touring tires. all i have to say is im never going back to the michelins! very quiet and smooth.
The Michelins all the way.
 
#16 ·
JMSinMD said:
Michelin's have the name but Yokohama's surpass them hands down.
Doesn't the GS430 come std. w/ Yokohamas?? I've hear that the Yokohama's SUCK for treadwear (I did some research on tires when I got my GS430 rims for the camry)
 
#17 ·
akira751 said:
The Michelins all the way.
I don't know ... I've heard good things about the Toyo Versado LX's!

I'm thinking about throwing a set on my ES300 when I'm due for tires again!
 
#18 ·
MCeatalot,

If it were me I would replace just that one tire with the exact one that is on the car now. I'm speaking strictly from an economic standpoint. It would be a waste to throw away 3 almost brand new tires at this point IMHO. Check all the warehouse clubs and the online places for that one tire. I know Sam's Club can special order many brand tires they don't carry in stock. When the whole set is worn I would then be asking and looking for a good replacement set.

Mike
 
#19 ·
Tires

For the various (6) vehicles I take care of in the immediate family I've had:
Goodyear
Dunlop
Michelin
Pirelli
Yokohama
Bridgestone
etc,etc, etc

I've been the happiest with Yokohamas. There customer service is excellent and they truly stand behind their product. Yokohama Avid H4 is also the only 225/40 18 tire that comes with a 60k treadwear warranty, unheard of in the industry. Toyo, etc are OEM tires that are made to last 20-25k before replacement, their inexpensive and meant to be middle of the road tires. There are plenty of garbage brands out there like Nankang, etc. Again, I stand behind Yokohama 100%, I would never purchase another brand.

Check out the Yokohama Avid line for a nice selection with great treadwear and great prices.
 
#20 ·
Mike Gerber said:
MCeatalot,

If it were me I would replace just that one tire with the exact one that is on the car now. I'm speaking strictly from an economic standpoint. It would be a waste to throw away 3 almost brand new tires at this point IMHO. Check all the warehouse clubs and the online places for that one tire. I know Sam's Club can special order many brand tires they don't carry in stock. When the whole set is worn I would then be asking and looking for a good replacement set.

Mike
That's exactly what I did. Well, not until after I brought it to BigOTires (which, by the way, offers some great warranties on store-bought tires) and, being a Toyo tire suppliers, they were able to call Toyo mfgr. and assess the tire damage. Although the hole made on my tire was considered to be due to "road hazard," and thus not covered under warranty, the rep gave it to me free of charge as a one-time courtesy. All I have to pay now is the install ($25). I still don't see why Tire mfgrs don't warranty road hazard. I mean, if my tire popped randomly while I was driving no more than 15 mph, how can they quickly discern it to be caused by road hazard? Whatever, I'm happy with a free tire.

My first oil change is up. Should I go ahead with full synthetic and tire rotation?

BTW, thanks to everyone's input. THey've been of great help! I love TN. My brother's fiance is planning on buying a Toyota, and I've already told him about TN and how helpful it is to read inputs from Toyota owners. Rock on!
 
#21 ·
MCeatalot said:
That's exactly what I did. Well, not until after I brought it to BigOTires (which, by the way, offers some great warranties on store-bought tires) and, being a Toyo tire suppliers, they were able to call Toyo mfgr. and assess the tire damage. Although the hole made on my tire was considered to be due to "road hazard," and thus not covered under warranty, the rep gave it to me free of charge as a one-time courtesy. All I have to pay now is the install ($25). I still don't see why Tire mfgrs don't warranty road hazard. I mean, if my tire popped randomly while I was driving no more than 15 mph, how can they quickly discern it to be caused by road hazard? Whatever, I'm happy with a free tire.

My first oil change is up. Should I go ahead with full synthetic and tire rotation?

BTW, thanks to everyone's input. THey've been of great help! I love TN. My brother's fiance is planning on buying a Toyota, and I've already told him about TN and how helpful it is to read inputs from Toyota owners. Rock on!


Glad it worked out for you. If it were me, I would give the tire rotation dollars to the tire store that helped you out. I rotated my tires at 6,500 miles.

As far as the synthetic vs. dino oil, if you ask 100 people you will probably get 50 that say synthetic and 50 that say stick with regular dino oil. Personally, I have always stuck with dino oil and changed the oil every 3 months or 3000 miles. I've never had an engine problem in any of my cars in more years of driving than I care to admit. I still try to stick with that on all my cars, even my 07 XLE. YMMV.

Mike
 
#22 ·
CamrySExxx said:
i never knew they came with toyo's. which are better .. the toyo's they come with or the michelins ?

anywho im not sure about the higher end tires that were recommended but i replaed the michelins mxv4's on our gen5 with a set of Toyo Versado luxury touring tires. all i have to say is im never going back to the michelins! very quiet and smooth.
yes they came with toyo's but i think its based on where u live. most west coast people here with SE's said they had toyo's and most east coast people have michelins i dunno y but so far our toyo's r fun with 9xxx miles. although driver front side "looks" flat
 
#23 ·
I had Yokohamas on my old car, They sucked, only lasted 10k miles on a freaking stock Taurus....
 
#26 · (Edited)
i like yokohamas or michelins myself....i have yokohama avid V4s and theyre great....good traction in all weather conditions, they wear well and have long life, and they grip great on dry pavement...very smooth and quiet as well....michelen pilots are also a safe bet IMO, but always go for the tires on the higher end
i tend to avoid bridgestone potenzas myself...i had the RE92 potenzas on my car from the factory and they were absolute and total shit
with tires, you get what you pay for