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How often should the coolant be replaced?

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#1 ·
The 2012 TCH Warranty manual is rather unclear about a couple things. One is the replacement interval for the "long life" engine and inverter coolant. The manual says (p41, and in every 30,000 mile maintenance checklist thereafter):
"Inspect [emphasis mine] ... Engine/Inverter coolant (4)", [and item (4) states] "Refer to “Engine/Inverter Coolant” in the “Explanation of Maintenance Items” section in the back of this guide for more information."
Then, on page 55:
Engine/Inverter Coolant

Drain the cooling system and refill with an
ethylene-glycol type coolant. Inspect hoses
and connections for corrosion and leaks.
Tighten connections and replace parts
when necessary. A qualified technician
should perform these operations. (For
further details, refer to "Radiator,
Condenser and Hoses" in the "Vehicle
Maintenance and Care" section of the
Owner's Manual.).

Your Toyota is equipped with Genuine
Toyota Super Long-Life Coolant. The
replacement intervals for engine
coolant recommended in this booklet
are based on replacement with
Genuine Toyota Super Long-Life
Coolant or similar high-quality
non-silicate, non-amine, non-borate
ethylene-glycol coolant with long-life
hybrid organic acid technology (i.e., a
combination of low phosphates and
organic acids). If another type of
ethylene-glycol coolant is used,
replacement intervals may be different.
It sort of implies the dealer is going to want to change the coolant every 30,000 miles, right? (And, frankly, that sounds about right for me, given what I know about ethylene glycol-based anti-freezes.) And, I couldn't find anything about the replacement interval in the "Vehicle Maintenance and Care section of the owner's manual.

But wait: There is a tag on the inverter coolant reservoir under the hood which states:
"Please follow the repair manual for inverter coolant replacement cycle and its procedure. (The first replacement shall be at 150000 mile.)"
So which is it? Do I need to get my coolant replaced every 30,000 miles or every 150,000 miles?

Inquiring minds want to know!
 
#4 ·
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Fascinating. There seems to be significant differences between the US and Canadian maintenance and the intervals, even beyond the oil change intervals. For instance, we have no recommended interval -- at least that I can find in the warranty book -- for brake fluid replacement.

Do you have a sticker on your inverter coolant reservoir like the above? If so, what does it say?
 
#6 ·
This is interesting. The top line says 200,000 kilometers or 15 years in Japanese.
The bottom line says 240,000 kilometers in what must be Chinese. Somebody on here must know Chinese.

My experience living in Japan was that they traded perfectly good cars every two years to avoid having to pay for an expensive safety inspection required at 24 months. But that was thirty years ago and things may have changed. But my guess is no one in Japan ever sees 200,000 km on a vehicle.
 
#10 ·
Today, I popped open the hood of my TCH and noticed that the inverter coolant fluid level was between "Full" and "Low". It has only been 1000 miles till now. I don't think I noticed its level carefully when I bought it. I guess it is OK since the fluid level is above "Low" but just wanted to ask around here. Should I get it "filled up" at the dealer to the "Full" level? Or just keep monitoring it if it falls lower?
 
#12 ·
When I popped the hood of my brand new TCH for the first time (in the garage after driving it home), I noticed the inverter coolant level was right on the "low" mark. It has remained there for the past 5000 miles. Tuesday I take the car in for its free 5000 mile service. One of the things I am going to ask them to do is fill it up to the "full" mark.

I'd keep my eye on it, but I'd venture that you'll find there is no leak. It's really something the factory or dealer should have addressed when they prepped the car before you took possession of it.
 
#15 ·
I bought my 2007 TCH about 2 months ago. I noticed the coolant resevoir for the engine (or is that an expansion tank?) was empty, so went to the dealer yesterday and bought a jug of Toyota long life coolant, just because I figured it should be the 'best' for the car. Wow. Canadian dealer price, jug of pre-mixed, (so it's about 40% water) is $21.04, tax in! Anyone recommend an aftermarket coolant that meets the spec and is priced somewhere below this?
 
#18 ·
Toyota specifies:

"Genuine Toyota Super Long-Life Coolant or similar high-quality non-silicate, non-amine, non-borate ethylene-glycol coolant with long-life hybrid organic acid technology (i.e., a combination of low phosphates and organic acids)."

I suspect any universal long life (5 years) antifreeze would meet this specification. However this product was the only one I found on a quick look that says all the right things.

Recochem Turbo Power Extended Life Antifreeze/Coolant

The wording is so similar, perhaps they are the manufacturer for the Toyota product???

Prestone which is the popular one is not that specific in their product description. You could e-mail them and ask if their Long Life coolant meets the Toyota requirements.
 
#20 ·
On my parent's 2009 TCH the Service Manual recommends to do the initial engine/power control unit coolant change at 100k and then 50k afterwards. I personally don't understand, nor has anyone on the various automotive forums or at the dealership/shop been able to explain why the interval changes by 50% if I'm using the same fluid.

Based on the above I'm sticking to 45k-50k intervals which the vehicle just hit. Dealership wanted $100 for the engine coolant drain and fill and $120 for the pcu coolant change which according to TIS requires the use of the TIS scan tool in order to turn on the pcu water pump, whereas the engine coolant drain and fill doesn't require TIS.
 
#21 ·
On my parent's 2009 TCH the Service Manual recommends to do the initial engine/power control unit coolant change at 100k and then 50k afterwards. I personally don't understand, nor has anyone on the various automotive forums or at the dealership/shop been able to explain why the interval changes by 50% if I'm using the same fluid.
I suspect they are accounting for the fact that most coolant changes are not 100%. In other words a portion of the original fluid stays in the engine. Often the service manual will list an initial fill volume of fluid, and then a second lower volume for a refill. Also they may be concerned that on a drain and refill the glycol may be mixed with tap water instead of demineralized water.