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new corolla owner and noticed a problem with exhaust in cab

8K views 40 replies 10 participants last post by  rosscopeeko  
#1 ·
Hello everyone. I'm a big toyota fan and have owned many toyota trucks. I sold my Tacoma a few months back and bought a ram cummins. I just bought a 2008 Corolla to drive around as my daily driver this winter and next year. It's a CE model with the 1.8 zz1 motor. It has 99K miles on it, or 160K km's. I'm in Canada. I got the car for pretty cheap and it runs great. I didn't notice the exhaust smell in the car when i test drove it. It's only noticeable when the car is sitting idling. I got under the hood today and can smell exhaust when the car is idling, with my face near the engine bay. I did a little reading and watched some youtube videos, and i suspect my exhaust manifold might be cracked. I don't have a garage to work in, so i'm hesitant to wrench on this car outside. I also don't want to deal with carbon monoxide poisoning because i tote my kids around in this car. I guess the right thing to do is take the manifold off, and inspect, and then make a decision with what i find. I saw some people weld the cracks, and reinstall. I'm wondering if this fix will last? A new manifold, new manifold gasket and new donut gasket is going to cost me $500 shipped. This is oem parts. Have any of you delt with this fix? Thanks
 
#5 ·
Lol I’m not a dodge fan. I bought a Cummins 6 speed manual. Now on topic, don’t notice any ticking, however a few days ago there was a ticking sound and the car ram rough at idle. That was after I disconnected the battery. I figured it had old gas so I went to top of the tank and it’s been running perfect since, just that exhaust smell in the cabin sitting still. I think I should pull it apart to look, then source the parts I need. Wish I had a garage. Wrenching outside in Canada can be harsh.
 
#6 ·
Hello there.....I have an 06 Corolla and the exhaust manifold IS prone to rusting out. I changed mine about a year ago. I also had the exhaust smell in the cabin. My brother in law is a Toyota mechanic and he said it's common.
Too bad I still don't have the picture , it rusts out real bad on the bottom side, not sure it can be repaired. It's quite thin.

I got mine at Rock Auto for less than $275 delivered. I would buy an OEM donut though, as the aftermarket don't seem to last.
They are around $180 CAN at Rock Auto, (click on the Dorman part and add it to cart) plus shipping and tax, it's around $250 sent to my address here in NB. Don't forget to use the 5% discount codes found on the internet. :)


That isn't a "do it outside" job, especially if the car is a daily driver. If you brake a manifold stud, you're in trouble. It can turn into a fairly tough job if things go bad. If the bolts come out ok, it's fairly easy.

PS.....it may be your converter pipe bad also. Those are expensive, check with the dealer. I got mine on Amazon.ca for cheap. Works fine..

Good luck....
 
#8 ·
I crawled under the car while it was on ramps in my driveway. The converter and piping was rusty, but I didn’t see or hear any holes. When I was under the hood feeling in behind where the exhaust manifold meets the pipe at the doughnut gasket, I could smell strong exhaust. I’m pretty sure it’s the manifold. I still have my truck insured so I can drive that too and from work for now. The oem exhaust manifold is $285 from Toyota parts direct Canada. I’d go that route over the dorman
 
#12 ·
yeah its a common failure point, the gaskets just wear out over time as the pipe flexes back and forth over the gasket. Might want to replace the rear flange gasket as well while you're down there, entirely up to you. I've heard good things about the QRP replacement gaskets. Some people have claimed fel-pro is good others not so much. If you want to do it once and never worry about it, pay extra for an OEM gasket. If the bolts and springs are rusty replace those too. It's about $140 in parts if you get all OEM gaskets and springs and bolts for front and rear flange, significantly cheaper if you go aftermarket.
 
#13 ·
I guess I underestimated this job. I was thinking I could just buy a new donut gasket and separate the manifold from the catalytic pipe with the 2 spring bolts. Is there not enough flex in the exhaust to move it back a couple of inches and replace the donut? At first I was thinking of taking the car to a muffler shop, but then I thought this should be easy and I could tackle it.
I now have a check engine light. I disconnected the 02 sensor at the clip to remove the heat shield. Started the car when I had it reconnected and I have the light. I can’t remember the code. My alphaobdmx plus is all I have to look at and clear the codes.
 
#15 ·
That’s what I thought. So my code is P0031. Directly related to the front 02 sensor. When I’m on days off I’ll unplug the sensor again and put some dialectic grease on the connection. Car runs perfect right now. Thanks guys. I think I’ll try to fix this myself. I sprayed some penetrating fluid on those spring bolts but I’m sure it’s burnt right off by now.
 
#23 ·
More good news. I got the car fixed today. Picked up a new oem donut from my local dealer and went to work. Used my electric impact to get the old spring bolts out, and they came out easy. Old donut was in pretty good shape. Installed new donut and gently used my electric impact very slowly with inward pressure to seat the bolts into the manifold nuts. Checked for cross threading, and i was good to go. Went back and forth and torqued to 40ftlbs. My big torque wrench wouldn't go lower, so that's what i used. No leaks and no smell so far. Looked into my 02 sensor code and issue. When i clipped the 02 sensor back in i must not have applied enough force. It came undone and was laying near the manifold. Plugged that back in, reset the code, and good to go. Going to try to program a couple of new keys today and then this car is ready. Runs great with 99k miles on it. It's a USA car and I'm in Canada. Has a couple of dents that i'll try to deal with in the spring. Thanks for the help guys. I'll ask for help in the future, and i'm here to offer help to those who ask. Take care

Mike
 
#24 ·
An update, so my exhaust manifold is cracked. I still had exhaust getting into the cabin of the car. I found the leak right off one of the header tubes on the bottom side, second cylinder from the passenger side when facing the front of the car. Pressurized the exhaust, and found the leak with soapy water and using my hand. A lot of air was leaking. I also still have a leak at the donut gasket. I'm done with messing with it so i bought a new oem manifold from toyota parts direct for $283, and a new header gasket. I'm having my local toyota dealer install the manifold. They quoted 1.1 hours. I don't have the tools to make the job easy. The car is also getting an airbag recall done. Wish me luck at the dealer.
 
#26 ·
Got the corolla exhaust manifold swapped at my local dealer today. Did it in the 1.1 hours stated in the shop manual for job hours. Paid $177 out the door with my air bag recall done also. I noticed that they either lost or broke one of my valve cover (plastic) nuts or stud. There is a new bolt on one side securing the cover. It's not the acorn style, it's a bolt. I've had them off numerous times over the past few weeks. I think they lost one. I did have a tiny oil leak on that stud where the acorn nut attaches. Maybe they swapped to the bolt to stop this, not sure. Anyways, no exhaust in the cab any more. I'm happy and my kids will be too.
 
#27 ·
In my case, the donut gasket actually wore through the female part of the exhaust flange attached to the catalytic converter....manifold was fine. Given that the flange is unusually large for this generation of Corolla, I haven't had any luck finding one new and am resorting to seeking out cars that are being parted out to find it.
 
#34 ·
I looked a couple of weeks back and saw an orange gasket tab sticking out at the intake. I’m taking the car to my local Toyota dealer who installed the manifold so they can confirm and diagnose my problem. It’s definitely exhaust. I idle the car this morning while I loaded up the car with my work gear to come home. Car was pretty full of fumes. I’d like to know what to carbon monoxide levels are in the car when I’m stationary. This problem has been challenging to fix. I’ll get there eventually. Hopefully it doesn’t cost too much.
 
#35 ·
Maybe you have a drain plug missing underneath the floor and more exhaust leak from somewhere. Chance it could be underneath the center console leaking in or somewhere by the firewall.

Do you have any road noise inside the cabin?

Does your car get moisture inside after rain?


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