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Number of used 2007 Camry's for Sale

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#1 ·
I find it somewhat disconcerting that within 25 miles of my zip code, there's 45 used 2007 Camry's for sale, vice only 5 used 2007 Honda Accords. There's an old saying that people vote with their feet, and in the case of the new Camry, it appears their feet are taking them down to the dealer to trade in their new Camry's.

As impressed as I was when I brought home my 2007 XLE V6, I find the impression wearing thin and lately have been eyeing used BMW 3-Series as a possible option for replacing my rattling, creaking, shaking, and downright weird acting (pop, fizzle, buzz) 2007 Toyota Camry.:disappoin

Anyone else having similar thoughts?
 
#2 ·
6000 miles and I'm happy with my '07 XLE.
No complaints except a ever so slight pulling to the right.

If you're not happy,dump it.
I would.
 
#3 ·
Comparing the number of used 2007 Camrys to 2007 Accords is a little misconceiving. Simply because the 2007 Camry was available in early 2006. That gives you almost 10 months of additional sales. I personally find the releasing so called next year models pretty lame. Why call it a 2007 model? To me when a car is built in 2006, sold in 2006...it’s a 2006 and not a 2007.

But the slip in Toyota's quality is pretty obvious and it definitely changed my plans to buy a new Camry. I'm just going to wait and see if Toyota is able to fix such issues as the transmission problems or I'll just hold out for the 2008 Accord (the coupe looks sweet).
 
#4 ·
one thing i have noticed is that alot of car dealerships have camry's as loaner cars for service work

at my too local dealerships i have noticed that each had atleast 10 as loaners.

plus i also agree with the statement about when the 07 camry became availible.
right now there is alot more camry's on the road than the accords....... maybe even a 10 to 1 ratio......

also agree, everyone is different, if you aren't happy, dump it .....

also i don't think it is fair to compare a 3 series to a camry :lol: no matter how much we like our camrys
 
#5 ·
14,000 miles with NO problems, no matter what the Temperature.

Still looking on the Camry forums for something that owners haven't whined about on the vehicle.........
 
#6 ·
I've only got 300 miles on mine, but th eonly issue I've noticed is that the cloth seats look like they're made of cheap velvet. I don't anticipate the seams lasting more than two or three months before splitting. I'm sure they're higher quality than that, it's just how it looks. Otherwise, I love it, and so long as the seams stay good, ill continue.
 
#8 ·
Cwopete2 said:
I find it somewhat disconcerting that within 25 miles of my zip code, there's 45 used 2007 Camry's for sale, vice only 5 used 2007 Honda Accords. There's an old saying that people vote with their feet, and in the case of the new Camry, it appears their feet are taking them down to the dealer to trade in their new Camry's.

As impressed as I was when I brought home my 2007 XLE V6, I find the impression wearing thin and lately have been eyeing used BMW 3-Series as a possible option for replacing my rattling, creaking, shaking, and downright weird acting (pop, fizzle, buzz) 2007 Toyota Camry.:disappoin

Anyone else having similar thoughts?
I think the people that bring up alot of the issues you may find in this forum, that try to put things in our heads about how crappy our cars are, are probably work for GM of Ford.:lol:
 
#11 ·
I just bought a used SE V6 and had very few to choose from. Actually, mine was the ONLY one to choose from. Fortunately it was the color I wanted (red) with all the stuff I wanted and very little I didn't. Plus it had only 2800 miles on it.

I won't comment on quality of a vehicle I've owned for about 2 weeks. But I can tell you that EVERY single forum I've been on for every car I've ever owned (this is #11) has had many many people complaining about various quality issues. Maybe I'm just lucky but I've never had any major issues with any of the makes I've owned (Toyota, Honda, Subaru and Nissan).
 
#12 ·
The '07 Camry being a first year car is sure to have some issues just like any other first year car (No matter what the Make). Some people will hang in there until these issues are resolved and others will panic and jump ship. :chug: Kudos to the Brave.
 
#13 ·
EuroPlate said:
Comparing the number of used 2007 Camrys to 2007 Accords is a little misconceiving. Simply because the 2007 Camry was available in early 2006. That gives you almost 10 months of additional sales.
Great point Europlate. Also, something that would greatly effect this is the total number of Camrys and Accords each company sold. Toyota sold almost 450,000 Camrys over that periold of 11 months or so, where as the number of Accords sold since late fall? I don't know... but I'd be willing to bet it's nowhere near a tenth of it.
 
#14 ·
160swiftly said:
I think the people that bring up alot of the issues you may find in this forum, that try to put things in our heads about how crappy our cars are, are probably work for GM of Ford.:lol:


Or they're just pissed that their expensive new cars have so many problems with them that weren't apparent when originally purchasing the vehicle.


but I'm sure they're all Ford Ninjas
 
#15 ·
FWIW - Honda sells about 30,000 Accords each month in the US... The battle between the Camry and the Accord for total number of units sold in any given year has been pretty steady with a difference of a few thousand vehicles. One thing to note on that... Toyota's dealer network is also larger than Honda's. There are 3 Toyota dealers to every Honda dealer around here.

Finally... An apples to apples comparison considering purchase date and resale market we should be comparing the 06 Accord to the 07 Camry.

It's interesting to note that on ebay there are 33 2007 Camrys for sale and only 14 2006 Accords.

I was thrilled the day I traded my 2007 SE V6 - - I was even more pumped that when I got rid of it the new owners had no clue as to the problems I had with my 2007 Camry SE V6

When buybing a used 2007 Camry V6 - - - CAVEAT EMPTOR!

http://motors.search.ebay.com/2007-toyota-camry_Cars-Trucks_W0QQcatrefZC12QQcoactionZcompareQQcoentrypageZsearchQQcopagenumZ1QQfromZR10QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQftrtZ1QQftrvZ1QQmppfqyZ2007Q20CamryQQmppfqyZ2007Q20toyotaQ20camryQQmppfqyZ2007Q20toyotaQ20camryQ20Q2bcarQQsacatZ6001QQsaprchiZQQsaprcloZ

http://motors.search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?sofocus=bs&sbrftog=1&catref=C12&from=R10&mppfqy=2007+Camry&mppfqy=2007+toyota+camry&mppfqy=2007+toyota+camry+%2Bcar&satitle=2006+honda+accord&sacat=6001%26catref%3DC6&a39=-24&a38v1y=&a38v2y=&a10239=-24&a39705=-24&a10244=-24&alist=a39%2Ca41%2Ca38v1y%2Ca38v2y%2Ca10239%2Ca3801%2Ca85%2Ca10246%2Ca33512%2Ca10241%2Ca10244%2Ca39705&pfmode=1&reqtype=1&gcs=13&pfid=2473&pf_query=2006+honda+accord&sargn=-1%26saslc%3D2&sadis=200&fpos=60586&ftrt=1&ftrv=1&saprclo=&saprchi=&fpos=60586&lsot=&fsop=1%26fsoo%3D1&coaction=compare&copagenum=1&coentrypage=search&fpos=60586
 
#16 ·
I looked high and low for a used Camry with the specs I wanted. There were none in my state or the states surrounding, and the offerings of local dealerships and private sales were slim to none. I wish there would've been such an abundant amount here...well maybe not. Nothing beats driving one new off the lot;)
 
#18 ·
Good posts...

Thanks for all the interesting feedback. I agree that the numbers can be misleading, it's just surprising that a lot of people are trading in the 2007 Camry with very low miles. There's also a lot of negative feedback about the car in a variety of forums. I tried my best to avoid falling into the fear-trap when all the posts were flying around about the transmission problems. I feel rather fortunate to have dodged that bullet so far with over 9,000 miles and only the very rare surge between gears 3 and 4. My major concern is will this car hold together over the long run. I've had the car in twice to address significant body rattles and vibrations. Granted, we have some of the worst roads in the country up here in MA, and the body rattles/vibrations certainly have gotten worse with the colder temperatures, it's just that every time I go over a bump (which is very frequent), it feels like the entire car is coming apart. As far as structual integreity is concerned, my wife's 2004 Highlander is rock-solid when compared to my 2007 Camry. Sure, it's easy to say "dump it", but that comes with a significant financial loss. :ugh3:
 
#20 ·
Cwopete2 said:
I find it somewhat disconcerting that within 25 miles of my zip code, there's 45 used 2007 Camry's for sale, vice only 5 used 2007 Honda Accords. There's an old saying that people vote with their feet, and in the case of the new Camry, it appears their feet are taking them down to the dealer to trade in their new Camry's.

As impressed as I was when I brought home my 2007 XLE V6, I find the impression wearing thin and lately have been eyeing used BMW 3-Series as a possible option for replacing my rattling, creaking, shaking, and downright weird acting (pop, fizzle, buzz) 2007 Toyota Camry.:disappoin

Anyone else having similar thoughts?
thats surprising, my local dealer were selling so many new camry, that they offered to trade my dads 07 4cly xle with 12,000 miles for a brand new 07 avalon fully loaded for and extra $4000. my dad was very tempted but he refused. they only offered this to my dad cause knows everyone there. I see camry all over the place, it's like the new in thing. :lol:
 
#21 ·
I have no complaints with mine. And I would NEVER trade it for a German car even it they paid me. I've owned a couple of German cars and they are very high maintenance. I had a friend that had a Mercedes that bragged about having almost 200,000 miles on it but he probably spent $20,000 getting it there.
 
#22 ·
The thing is for me, I realized I've been spoiled by the Toyota's I've owned over the years. I own 3 Toyota's currently, a 71 Corolla that is a hand me down from my Father which was purchased new. I also have an 87 Camry, and a 2001 Camry which I just purchased.

The 71 Corolla is so reliable I nearly forget it even has any mechanical components. The only work I do on the car is cosmetic as we all know the body rust in that time period is pretty scary. The 87 has been literally trouble free from day one, zero failures. No check engine light, nothing has ever failed on that car for over 250,000 miles. Sure the exhaust has been replaced several times (thank you life time warranty Toyota!) and a few bulbs have been replaced along the way. But with that car, I just assume it will run and run and don't even consider anything will go wrong because it never does. Outside of scheduled items not ONE single component has ever failed on that car. The cost of ownership is about as low as a vehicle can go.

Now to see and read about all the problems the new Camry is having, it really makes me realize that something has been lost along the way. I am senstive to the fact that the new models are much, much more complex and the law of probability will induce more failures. But there are certain things that Toyota's have always been the best at, like mechanical quality, body integrity, paint quality (87 Camry has the original paint and still looks great) etc.

The new Camry appears to be missing the basic mechanical goodness that take for granted from Toyota. My 2001 Camry is a Japanese made model and it is absolutely rattle free, defect free, runs excellent, rides quiet, gets good gas mileage, everything you could want in a car. I get the feeling the car will run forever. I don't get that feeling from the new Camry. I really really hate to say it, but it reminds me of an American built sedan but with a much better engine.

I really hope I am wrong about the new Camry and the new Toyota's in general I really do. It just feels to me like a car with world class Japanese engineering that is let down by assembly glitches, quality control, and missing the last 1/10th X factor that makes a good car great.
 
#24 ·
02whiteLE said:
My '07 is a Japan built model. SO does this mean these "problems" don't apply to me?
Yours might be, but most are made in Kentucky. We had one in Kentucky and One from Japan, both had quality issues especially with transmission failures.
 
#26 ·
As has been noted, bad comparison without all the facts. Not only has the Camry been out a lot longer, but many of the ones you see listed are at dealers. This means a good number are demos, or loaners/rentals that hit their mileage limits. And most that I have seen are only about $1k less than a new one.