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Off road Toyota Camry - try not to hate too much.

27K views 77 replies 22 participants last post by  jstam316  
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Call it boredom or stupidity, but I've decided to turn the Camry into a budget off roader. Ultimate goal is to enter the Gambler 500, but thought it would be fun to enjoy it in the meantime. Now that the car is running good (well, good enough), and the new springs and struts raised the height more than I like, now is the time.

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I've been searching for a decent set of rims and tires from a Ford Ranger or Jeep with the correct bolt pattern, but no luck for a while. With the help of a local parts yard, I took a Ranger wheel and learned a 215 70 15 tire can fit without major interference (even though the suspension is at full droop, and this was on a 1997 and not a 1996).

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But what fun would this be? I ended up buying a set of used rims/tires off of a Jeep Cherokee, so this weekend I'm hoping to marry them together with the necessary body work. Tires are currently 195 75 14, and the new are 235 75 15. The overall height is about a 4" change, so this will give the car an extra 2" of ground clearance.

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Yeah, width is also interesting with not enough offset, so I have 2" spacers on their way. I hope this will be enough to clear the struts. Though not sure if this is a bad omen, but when I started to lift the back end from the jack point, the rusty rocker stared to fold in, so had to find a solid lifting point further inboard.

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This weekend, my plan is to delicately remove the lip all the way around the wheel well and cut about an inch into the fenders. Go from there to see to see how much more is needed. I do have another trick up my sleeve for extra height (thank you Google search for having me stumble into someone else that already lifted a Camry.

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Stay tuned.
 
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Planning ahead is less fun that jumping in without a plan. These are Jeep rims, so 15" x 7" rims with a +1" offset, as opposed to the stock steel on there now of 14" x 5.5" with +1.75" offset. If my math is correct, the back surface of the rims are... in the the exact same place, 4.5" back the rim mating surface. Huh. So it looks like I will be totally dependent on the 2" rim spacer to clear the spring perch on the strut. Anyone know how much the spring perch overlaps the inside edge of the rim?
 
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Your math is correct for your wheel and tire offset. That jeep wheel is going to offer the same backspacing as the current steelie; however the jeep tire is likely going to stick quite a bit further back than the tires on the steelies. The backspacing will be fine to clear the caliper.

235s on a 7" wheel requires a decent amount of pinching, you can even see it in the picture how much the 235s are bulging out compared to the 195. The spring perch is gonna be located probably around mid to mid high sidewall on those tires closest to the bulge - but it would boggle my mind if your 2" spacers and the jeep wheels don't alleviate any issues with strut clearance since you are basically adding -2.75" offset compared to stock, that is a lot of room for tire - you could probably go an inch wider on the tires and still clear it without problem. Jealous lol.

The real issue you're looking at is what to do to that corner of the chassis to make room for the tire diameter; you're gonna need to cut a lot of little pieces out so I'd probably figure out some way to reinforce between the underbody rails and pinch welds after you're done cutting.
 
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As long as it doesn't ride like total garbage, I will be happy.
A couple of months back I put on new struts, springs, rear lateral control arms, passenger cv axel, rotors, calipers, brake line, used set of tires, radiator, coolant hose, thermostat... it's riding good now. These future changes will certainly take a step in the wrong direction in terms of 'quality/smoothness of ride'. But I'll surely intimidate the old people at the grocery store!
 
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The 2" spacers alone would barely allow these tires to fit. The tires I'm putting on the back are decently worn, so if they were new, they may contact the spring perch in the back. The front struts have more room and wouldn't be an issue.

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Ended up spacing the struts up to allow more room. The fronts have a 2" spacer in place, and the backs have 3.5" spacer, but the back looks way too high, so may bring that down to 2"
I didn't get a chance to trim the fenders, so the car hasn't been driven yet. This is still the early stages. Plan to have this done during the week, but this is it so far.

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The iphone camera gave the photo a bit of a fish eye look to get it all in the photo, and I will measure it, but there is a decent rake to the car which I do no like.
 
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Perhaps this beauty for sale will give you more ideas, and laughs
 
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I think it's funny seeing all the lifted Camry's out there. Thank you for sharing these.

I used metal brackets in similar fashion to raise the suspension.
Last night on the maiden voyage, it drove okay on a 5 mile loop, so I drove it to work today. 23 miles with most of it on the highway. Forgot how much louder all terrain tires are. With the larger tires increasing the rotating mass, power steering feels too strong. Takes very little effort to turn the steering wheel when moving.
Fenders trimmed, though they need a little more removed:

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#32 ·
heres a standard Subaru with custom A arms and shocks with 10/12" of travel... $9k later!

parts made by this shop

I found them because they make hardened tool steel shift forks for the E153 transmission
$500 !!
dog gears too!
tested to 1200 HP!