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Oil Leak - Mid to Lower Part of Engine

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Oil leak is occurring on 03' Corolla with 208K miles.

Back around 185K miles, valve cover gasket was (finally) replaced because it was leaking towards front of the car and in the direction of the passenger tire and heavily coated those sides of engine. After the fix, the upper part of the engine is clean and dry with no leak.

Then, later, I've noticed mid- to lower section of the engine where all the belts are also getting soaked with oil. I've tried engine cleaner with (cheap leaky) power wash couple of times but it was difficult to get it really clean due to hard reach location and heavy coats of oil.

On the ground, you only see very small oil stains and we are losing less than a quart of oil in between 5,000 mile oil changes, so it must be a small leak, but nevertheless it's making a big mess around the alternator, and belt and of course underside of the car.

Initially, I didn't think it was Timing Belt Tensioner because the limited angle view I had to it looked dry from the passenger side, but this morning I squeezed in my phone behind the tight engine space and snap some pictures and confirmed that it's leaking. :grin::grin::grin:

But that seems pretty far to heavily coat the entire section where belt loops around and the alternator.
So I think I may actually have more leak and belt is only 2 years old but showing lots of cracks, probably from all that oil getting dumped on to it. Looks like I'll be tackling Tensioner and Belt replacement in the near future.

I have few questions.

1) Do you think the leak from Tensioner with the help of spinning belts actually coat the entire mid to lower half of front part of engine?

2) Besides the Timing Chain Cover and Crankshaft Oil Seal, what other areas could leak oil in mid- to lower section of front (where the belt is) part of the engine?

3) Tensioner is located in not so visible and pretty tight space, so I'm wondering how did you guys access it. Did you go through the top or from under the car?

4) Should I just buy Tensioner and Belt from Toyota dealer? Or are there reputable aftermarket parts for these?

Thanks in advance.
 

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3) Tensioner is located in not so visible and pretty tight space, so I'm wondering how did you guys access it. Did you go through the top or from under the car?

4) Should I just buy Tensioner and Belt from Toyota dealer? Or are there reputable aftermarket parts for these?

Thanks in advance.
You can access it from top. Feel for the studs with your fingers while taking off and putting it back together. Very little chance of messing up anything.


Replace just the o-ring on the tensioner (part# in the DIY) and you should be fine. For the belt don't use the Toyota one. To quote Hardtop - "It is HIGHLY advisable to NOT go with an OEM Toyota/Bando drive belt. They are known to stretch and squeak in as little as 20K miles. " The sticky Maintenance thread gives a list of belts you can buy. I am using Gates brand belt. Not a whisper from the belt here. Do this after the oil leak is identified and handled. You dont oil to get on the new belt.
 
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The timing CHAIN tensioner has a common o-ring leak problem. It's not hard to replace, but for anyone reading this who has a similar problem, you want to make sure the bore into which the timing chain tensioner fits is 100% clean. Use something like a round "bottle" brush and a solvent to clean that bore. Use a mirror and light to make sure you've cleaned off ALL of the varnish. It's not necessary to replace the entire timing chain tensioner (just replace the o-ring and use the Toyota brand).

The serpentine belt tensioner can also leak and is known to go bad, but I doubt that is causing all the leak mess the DS (Discussion Starter) had back in 2017. At 423K miles I still have the original serpentine belt tensioner and timing chain tensioner.

I suspect the DS's problem was the front crank seal and most probably the timing cover seal (it uses a FIPG type of sealant). Both of those seals were leaking on my Corolla. Made a mess at the alternator, just like the DS had. While getting my inspection sticker at the Toyota dealer, they said my timing chain cover was leaking. They wanted something absurd, like $1400, to reseal it. No way I'm going to pay that, so I did it myself for the price of the sealant. I used Permatex Grey sealant "rtv"/FIPG or whatever it's called. I let it cure for about 20 hours before I put oil in. I didn't replace the original water pump, but I replaced the o-ring for the water pump (even though it looked fine).

For anyone dealing with this, spend the extra few bucks and purchase the Toyota brand of front crank seal.

The front crank seal leak will cause a big greasy residue on the plastic undercover right below it. The timing chain cover leak will get oil all over everthing, especially at the front of the car, like on the alternator.
 
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Had a bad oil leak. Replaced crank shaft seal and timing chain tensioner (new) about a month ago. Two weeks later while replacing power steering pump I noticed more oil coming from the new tensioner. Thought I had cleaned the bore pretty well. Anyways I pulled it out and cleaned it off with degreaser. Then i put a bead of the red high heat gasket maker around the tensioner base and reinstalled. Hasn’t leaked since.