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OrangeVirus Tuning- ECU Tune

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#1 ·
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Coming soon- 2019 Corolla Hatchback/2020 Sedan 2.0 M20A-FKS support. :thumbsup:

OVTUNE - Dynamic Force.. A25A FKS Engine Development (2018+ Camry 2.5)
by Mathew Wilson February 07, 2019

Toyota's all new "Dynamic Force Engine."

OrangeVirus Tuning development for the A25A-FKS 200+HP 2.5L Engine is under way. Our goal is simple.

1. More power.
2. Even better fuel economy.

The A25A dynamic force engine comes standard with 13:1 compression and runs on 87 octane. Toyota touts it as one of the highest thermally efficient engines ever created.

With Dual, intelligent Valve Timing and intake manifold tumbler control, this engine reminds of us the Mazda "Skyactiv" G platform. Similar, 13:1 super high compression built to run on 87 octane. What did we learn on that platform? Premium octane and a few simple mods can create more than 20% horsepower gains, while still maintaining stock like efficiency.
Toyota's new engine deploys a vast array of latest tech to bring the on demand response drivers desire. Similar to the Skyactiv-G platform, this engine uses camshaft angles to maintain cylinder fillling moreso than the throttle blade itself. that means, under ideal conditions the throttle may be open much further than one would expect, and the valves are opened at just the right time to cruise along at a steady state. This greatly enhances efficiency.

ELECTRONIC!

Everything on this engine is supervised by electronics. The Coolant pump is electronic. This engine even deploys an all new electronic variable pressure oil pump.
This engine is remarkably complex, but not quite as complex as the new Skyactiv-X platform.
Similar to other D4-S models, this engine deploys 8 injectors, and has total control over fueling using engine speed and engine load to dictate exactly which injector to fire, and how much fuel spread across each injector is carefully calculated by the ECM.

So what is OVTune's Plans for this engine?

1. We will extract more power, safely by use of 91 octane and 93 octane gasoline. Manufacturers rarely tune their engines to reach peak horsepower, and when an engine is designed to run 87 octane and has compression this high, more octane almost always means more power is on tap, just waiting to be opened.

2. Increase real world MPG. We have achieved this with the Skyactiv-G 2.5L using certain tuning strategies that recalibrate the intake and exhaust valve timing tables, along with increasing ignition during stoic where the engine is actually being used. By doing so, we have achieved more than 45 MPG on 87 octane (highway) on the 2.5L Skyactiv engine. We expect to see similar abilities out of this engine, and potentially even greater efficiency than the Skyactiv.

Controlling Airflow:

The A25A-FKS engine employs an airflow control strategy just like any other Toyota calibration. Calculating and simulating expected airflow for a given RPM. Because of this, it is possible that during real world driving you may not be getting as much throttle as you would imagine. Just because YOU floor the accelerator, does not mean the ECM is going to fully open the throttle butterfly. Just like the Toyota Tacoma, ultimately the amount of throttle you can achieve is up to tables such as these.

Camshaft Timing:

The A25A achieves it's record setting efficiency in part by valve timing. This ECM has valve timing tables that, once again are similar to that of the Skyactiv-G. using angles that model absolute efficiency, and models that produce absolute response.

Ignition Timing:

One thing is certain. Toyota is the leader in the worlds most Complex ignition strategies. Not only does Toyota model tables for target ignition advance, they model tables for ignition efficiency ratios, ignition multipliers and an almost *limitless* array of 4D and 5D Table controls that model efficiency based on calculated ignition degree. Unlike most other manufacturers, Toyota uses an extremely complex and intelligent strategy using a 5D (5 axis) ignition model that is simply too complex to even put on paper.
However, there is much to learn just by looking at their target ignition tables. They look eerily similar to that of the Skyactiv-G, and by that, we mean there is room to grow.

This engine starts its life with 203 factory horsepower. With high octane, and a few bolt ons + and ECM Tuning, This engine might just be the dream when it comes to naturally aspirated engines. We expect to crank this thing out in testing, and hope to achieve 250BHP (~207BHP 2.0) with high octane (ethanol).

https://www.ovtuned.com/blogs/news/ovtune-dynamic-force-a25a-fks-engine-development
 
#9 ·
I think they are likely to release multiple tune setup for those who have stock or aftermarket parts. I am more interested in the high octane tune, since 87-89-92 is not that far apart in price. I wonder if it will maintain the MPG.
 
#7 ·
I look forward to seeing the results of the tune on the CHB, OP! New member here by the way. I've bestowed the honor of the first post to forever grace the presence of your thread. LoL! Have a good one.
 
#20 ·
Could you guys give us some info on the limiting factors of the motor so far . such as the cam profile, intake , exhaust , etc ? Just wondering what you guys are experiencing and where parts could be altered and or changed to improve performance overall.
 
#24 ·
So I seen a photo of a small device that plugs into the OBDII scan port. That being said, I'm pretty sure this is a piggy back tuning suite. Which historically, hasn't been great with Toyota ECU's. Anyhow, I'm still skeptical on this system, but wish them the best of luck on it.
 
#25 ·
No, Desy… This is absolutely not piggy back. It is a very thorough ECU recalibration flash done with a "V3" cable to upload Orange Virus tuning software from your computer.

-Flash Tuning is a process of modifying the contents of the binary data on the computer of a vehicle. It is a process of installing new "software" onto the vehicles Engine Control unit.


https://www.ovtuned.com/pages/faq
 
#27 ·
After flashing this tune does that mean we will have to use 93 Octane at all times? Is it possible to make this tune be active or "activated" only when in sports mode?
 
#28 ·
There will be a 91 pump octane (95 RON) tune, and also a 93 octane tune... Not sure if there will be a Sports Mode control option, but there is mention of fuel efficiency gains on 87 octane.
 
#35 · (Edited)
About 2,925 rpm at 80 mph in 6th gear.

93 pump octane (95 RON) tune:

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#41 ·
Yes, I do realize the tune will not have bearing on the rpm, I was trying to get a feel for how hard the engine is working @ 80 MPH. How about cabin noise, any feedback on this would be appreciated as well.

I'm sorta waiting to see how this tune develops before making a purchase. 200 herspower would be a lot more fun, feel me?

Subjective question: How do guys feel the structural rigidity of the new Hatch might compare with the VW Golf? Putting VW's quirks aside, the chassis of the Golf has largely been complemented over the years, and seems to fairly buttoned down.

I've not driven a 6MT Hatch yet, but I am curious, and thus my questions. Hope I'm not violating any forum protocol by getting into this subject here.
 
#43 ·
200 Horses would be more fun but I think more power in the lower end would be better served. Most shifts (At least for me) tend to be under 4k, and under 3.5k day to day. If you keep it in 3rd or 4th it has a decent amount of power as is, and is pretty fun.


The Hatch has decent rigidity. You will feel some chassis torque when taking turns tightly but she sticks to the ground well. I haven't driven the Golf but had a 2001 Jetta and it was stiffer than the Hatch.
 
#44 ·
IMO the golf is a lot better in rigidity then the corolla . Ive owned a 08 , 10 ,15 gti as well as the 12 golf R and bought a 15 golf for the old lady. The new mqb platform is pretty amazing compared to the corolla. I will say that although the corolla and golf are similar is weight the corolla does feel like it turns in better stock for stock and that kinda surprised me.
 
#47 ·
What did you do with the camry coil springs? also is a urethane puck available for the rear mount ? or did you do something custom ? Ive been playing with things such as gutting out the rear seats and spare tire stuff to save weight and see how the car felt . I'm also in the beginning process of manufacturing a replacement rear mount to try and hopefully increase the rigidity and improve acceleration and road feel / response .
 
#48 · (Edited)
I had to cut off 2" from both ends of the coil spring wire to limit my raise to 1-1/4", along with 30mm urethane inserts from Russia Ebay on rear springs which also well increased spring preload for proper support... No need to manufacture a replacement rear mount which is easily removeable for servicing. Its spaces just need to be filled with urethane. No pucks are available.

Driveability, support, feel and feedback are absolutely fantastic, and it's now a completely different animal from stock.
 
#49 ·
got it . im going to be testing a one piece solid mount to replace the whole mount ( not the part that mounts to the trans ) logic being the motor and trans mount mixed in with the small insert thats in the forward part of the subframe mount should be plenty to dampen vibrations but give a significant reduction in engine/ trans movement . if the vibrations are to much then ill look into a replacement mount with an insert. this will just be the beginning as im planning on addressing a few different issues to improve overall performance on the platform.

still looking into the shifter as well but was sad to see that the mounting points for the shifting cables are fixed on top of the trans. I think the corolla has a great shifter out the box but the throws are longer then i would like .
 
#50 · (Edited)
I meant to mention also that you absolutely cannot have a rigid rear torque position motor mount to replace the stock one. No need for a replacement mount. You only need to fill your existing rear mount's spaces with some fast cure urethane. It can't and shouldn't be made to be any more rigid at all.