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Rounded out the hex hole transmission drain plug

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#1 · (Edited)
Hello, I have a 2013 Toyota Avalon and I rounded out the 6mm hex hole transmission drain plug. Every 30k I would drain about 2 quarts and then refill it with new fluid through a 24mm refill bolt on side of transmission (behind driver side front tire). Do I have any options or do I have to drop/replace the pan and prepare for a giant oil mess? Thanks!
 
#3 ·
If I understand the picture/situation correctly, the transmission drain plug is still in the pan, and it's just the hex hole that has rounded. The drain plug appears to be raised compared to the pan, so you could grab it from the outside edge.

I would consider using a large bolt extractor or aggressive pliers like knipex cobras to turn the plug carefully from the outside. The torque spec isn't too high for that plug, but you might need some leverage.

Of course, have a new drain plug on hand before attempting anything.
 
#5 ·
@zaza thank you. Yes, you are correct, it's just the hex hole that is rounded.
I'll take a look into those pliers thank you.
I believe the torque spec on the drain plug is 32 ft-lbs 😫
Yes, that torque spec sounds about right. I expect knipex cobras to bite and not let go (it will mar the surface), but you may need a pipe/extension on the handle to overcome the torque.

Careful though, these pliers work so well that they can become addictive:


 
#8 ·
Lots of options before replacing the pan!

If the pliers don't work you could tap a short 3/8 extension in the rounded out hole and make a couple tack welds to the plug assuming it's steel (it has rust on it).

Or cut a slot in to it with a die grinder and use a piece of angle iron or similar to engage the slot, then turn with a pipe wrench or pliers.

If the hole is deep enough you might even get an easy out to work.
 
#10 ·
II have a solution, 2 parts.

Take a small hammer and "peen" down the damage. Then drive the correct hex into the hole and it might come loose.

If that does not work then try this. Take a sharp flat blade chisel and knock a notch on the outer rim of the fastener. Then use a flat blade punch and hammer to drive it counter clockwise until it starts to move and you are on the way to removal.

You could even use the "peened" hex recess to tighten THE SAME FASTENER and reuse it permanently.

Done it for decades almost 100% success. Also works on steering column locks with the break off bolt heads that leave nothing to grab to get them loose.

Also works on ancient firearms, not disassembled in a hundred years, but those are slotted heads.
 
#11 · (Edited)
The secret to "peening" is to not beat the crap out of it, just enough force to "move' the damaged metal "back' to where it originally was. The impact might even help it to break loose.
To understand this try banging your finger with the hammer then use the same force you can barely stand and hit the plug with that force, NOT ENOUGH TO BEND THE PAN ITSELF.

PS: my fingers have a high threshold of pain
 
#15 ·
One more idea. When trying to loosen damaged and frozen fasteners I have resorted to using a punch and a hammer. First creating a divot with the punch, then angling that same punch to exert force in a counterclockwise direction.
This accomplishes two things. First the hammering will help break any corrosion and such. Secondly it's always a win to get the offending object in the direction you want it to move.
 
#17 ·
If it was mine I would do the chisel and hammer counterclockwise method, FIRST. You may need no other parts. In you first picture there is a "nick" in the outer rim of the plug itself. As long as you have the room there is where I would place the chisel to hammer the plug loose. Any damage can be cleaned up with a file or light grinding. That kind of thing to me was an opportunity to do the job for free in less than a minute.
Customer for life, just keep treating them the way you would want if the tables were turned.
Busted Fingers posted about the same thing as i did. Impact is the solution.
 
#19 ·
I have successfully used a torx bit socket, driven it into the rounded hole with a hammer and it gripped enough to remove the stripped plug. I’d buy the same plug and a new washer from Toyota, since the fluid check “straw” threads in above the plug you don’t want to risk damaging it or not dealing with the wrong drain plug. Get the new plug and washer ahead of time so you’re ready to go when you get the stripped one out.