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Squeaky Clutch

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#1 ·
My new corolla hatchback has 300 miles on it now! Loving it so far. Out of curiosity has anyone else noticed a slight squeak/creak when using the clutch? I'm not sure if it's coming from the pedal itself, or possibly under the hood (clutch slave cylinder?) If yours had a squeak did it go away eventually? Clutch operates fine otherwise, and I can only hear it with my music off.
 
#4 ·
I am learning to drive 6MT on the HB, I don't hear the squeak but I smell slight burning after the drive. I am just assuming it's new car break in smell as I don't feel I am grinding anything. I have 130km in. I baby my car and I will bad if I grind anything.

I do notice I have trouble shifting into 2nd gear in full at least once I day. I think the cup holder could be a little too close.
 
#6 ·
I am learning to drive 6MT on the HB, I don't hear the squeak but I smell slight burning after the drive. I am just assuming it's new car break in smell as I don't feel I am grinding anything. I have 130km in. I baby my car and I will bad if I grind anything.

I do notice I have trouble shifting into 2nd gear in full at least once I day. I think the cup holder could be a little too close.

I noticed a slight smell after driving at first, but it wasn't so much a burning, and has gone away now by 400 miles. As for 2nd I haven't had any issues shifting into it (all gears feel smooth) What rpm are you shifting at?
 
#41 ·
Although mine still doesn't squeak, I'm pretty sure it's just the release bearing fork which squeaks at its pivot point. It's an easy fix for 9th gen Corolla as shown in the link. I'll see if it would be as easy on this 12th gen.
 
#24 ·
The transmission and clutch work beautifully and are very easy to use, yes absolutely... In stock form, an audible engine or exhaust sound for rpm feedback is sorely lacking for easy, natural, and efficient modulation and control of the throttle and clutch.
 
#26 ·
Something about staring at the tach up top...

I'm gonna have to agree with my mentor and guide "Invader" (what are we invading? Why?) and suggest full on electrical tape to cover the tach. Driving by ear is hugely satisfying. My last car was, well, not a future classic and lacked said tach. And what joy! Finally, no staring at that needle all the time. Just shifting when it sounded like it was the right thing to do for the car under the circumstances I was in. Just like when I learned to drive.
 
#29 ·
I find the Corolla HB is too quiet. The lack of tactile feedback on the stick or clutch could be a pro or a con depends on where you come from. The clutch pedal is a little too high for my taste and I have to sit quite close to the steering wheel in order not to strain my left foot. It's high because I cannot hinge on the floor on my left foot, I have to clutch in with foot in mid air. My friend didn't have this issue, he has bigger foot than I do.


I think the exhaust would be the next thing I am going to do when more options are available, a catback from Borla or Vibrant would be nice.
 
#30 · (Edited)
I find the Corolla HB is too quiet. The lack of tactile feedback on the stick or clutch could be a pro or a con depends on where you come from. The clutch pedal is a little too high for my taste and I have to sit quite close to the steering wheel in order not to strain my left foot. It's high because I cannot hinge on the floor on my left foot, I have to clutch in with foot in mid air. My friend didn't have this issue, he has bigger foot than I do.


I think the exhaust would be the next thing I am going to do when more options are available, a catback from Borla or Vibrant would be nice.

You shouldn't be hinging your clutch foot on the floor! I'm amazed your friend or anyone can do that without problems. The pedal should go all the way down and come all the way up, which can only be achieved with your foot in the air (not on the floor) in order to get the full range of motion. That also sounds like your friend is (and you were trying) to ride the clutch which is a big no no. when you are not using the clutch your foot should be to the left of it completely off of it (thats why there is a dead pedal spot to rest it). You do not want to touch the clutch pedal at all when not using it (even slightly resting your foot against it) because that wears it down very fast.
 
#32 ·
Does anyone know if the car has some kind of a lock out that prevents you from shifting to a particular gear without clutching in and out again?


My driveway and the garage door is fairly short from the street. I tend to coast to a stop while the door opens in N while my foot is clutched in. I notice sometimes I will not be able to shift to 1st if I don't clutch out and clutch in. It doesn't happen all the time, just some times I have to put it back to N, then I can shift to 1st to get moving.
 
#33 ·
I think I know what you are talking about and have experienced this is a lot of manual cars. Where you can only go into first from a stop or very slow crawl. I'm not sure if it's a lockout (so you dont put it into first going fast) or just how manual transmissions work. Another theory I have heard is it's because first gear does not have a synchro like the rest, so it's harder to get into while moving. Either way it's very normal.
 
#37 ·
Hey guys, any updates on this?

I have some news for everyone!

I bought my XSE Manual on 04.07. Today I will have owned it for 65 days, and in those 65 days I only drove it for 19 days, beyond that it has been living back at the dealership.

The clutch started to squeak between first second and third gear (obviously since we have to let off slower). Brought it in, they said they found another car w/ the same problem. Got Toyota Corp involved. They swapped out the throw bearings and basically the entire clutch system. Got my car back after 5 weeks, got in, started it up, heard the clutch squeak before leaving the lot. U-turned back the hell in and it's been living there ever since again.

They have now put in the third clutch, drove it for like 50 miles and have confirmed the bloody noise is still there! they have given up and said, "well, it's not a safety issue, so we have no fix right now, take your car back." The car is still in the shop. I have opened a case file w/ Toyota Corp but have not heard back yet. My sales guy agrees w/ me that they should gimme a new car, but since a case file is open now, Corp has to OK it.

So... what's your guys' experience 3 months later? Any better? Any worse?

We need to make more noise and tell Corp this is unacceptable! If you guys want some info on my case file so we can ban together and make some noise for them find a fix, please PM me!

Thanks!

Rick
 
#42 ·
Hey guys, any updates on this?

I have some news for everyone!

I bought my XSE Manual on 04.07. Today I will have owned it for 65 days, and in those 65 days I only drove it for 19 days, beyond that it has been living back at the dealership.

The clutch started to squeak between first second and third gear (obviously since we have to let off slower). Brought it in, they said they found another car w/ the same problem. Got Toyota Corp involved. They swapped out the throw bearings and basically the entire clutch system. Got my car back after 5 weeks, got in, started it up, heard the clutch squeak before leaving the lot. U-turned back the hell in and it's been living there ever since again.

They have now put in the third clutch, drove it for like 50 miles and have confirmed the bloody noise is still there! they have given up and said, "well, it's not a safety issue, so we have no fix right now, take your car back." The car is still in the shop. I have opened a case file w/ Toyota Corp but have not heard back yet. My sales guy agrees w/ me that they should gimme a new car, but since a case file is open now, Corp has to OK it.

So... what's your guys' experience 3 months later? Any better? Any worse?

We need to make more noise and tell Corp this is unacceptable! If you guys want some info on my case file so we can ban together and make some noise for them find a fix, please PM me!

Thanks!

Rick

Wow Toyota did all that for you?!? I'm at 3000 miles now. I think the clutch hasn't been squeaking as much now that it is summer. Or I just stopped caring and listening for it since I usually have music on. Either way I don't think it's actually an issue of any sort. So I recommend not worrying about it and enjoying the car!
 
#45 ·
I wonder if they actually adjusted the clutch pedal. My dealer adjusted to clutch pedal and it is higher and stiffer than before (i know because I keep hitting the steering wheel). I notice there is a "whoosh" sound once pass 95% of the clutch being fully depressed. The sound wasn't there when I took it to the dealer and I will advise them to re-adjust it when they replace my whole transmission some time next month.
 
#46 ·
Between how you have mentioned you rest your feet while shifting and now you're hitting the steering wheel I am really curious to see what your driving position looks like hahah. I don't know how they would adjust the clutch pedal isn't it hydraulic?
 
#48 ·
I'm 26k KM so far and clutch no longer squeaks. Probably due to the nice heat going down in Toronto, Canada right now.

No issues on my end. Only thing i've noticed is the noticeable "click" sound at the end of my release point when clutching out. That has gone away since driving recently.
 
#52 ·
Currently at the dealership, we’ll see what they have to say. I’ll push for a bushing replacement at the minimum.
 
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#55 ·
Service department is going to keep the car overnight as Toyota is replacing every bushing in the clutch pedal assembly
 
#58 ·
Bushings didn’t help, still makes the noise although not as loud. I immediately noticed some new hard creases in the leather seats when the car was returned to me...

Apparently the pedal is very difficult to access and the service tech was all over the seat trying to gain access to hard to get to bolts.. Not happy at all... the scuff plate wasn’t correctly seated so I pulled it and it had 3 broken tabs. Looks like I have to get Toyota North American involved yet again...
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#62 ·
That’s exactly what probably happened, pathetic they don’t have respect for customers vehicles...this will be the last non luxury car I ever buy
 
#66 ·
i spoke with the customer relations manger today... they want to inspect the car with the service manager and determine if they can send the car to a upholster to have the leather heated and creases removed or just replace the entire seat, I’ll be pushing to have the seat replaced since I have zero faith that someone is actually capable of fixing the seat.

The plastic scuff plate came in today and will pick up tomorrow. The clutch still makes the noise so will likely take to another dealer to have the entire clutch pedal assembly replaced at another time
 
#67 ·
Got the 2020 XSE 6 speed last month and noticed the clutch started squeaking after about 700 miles. Took it into the dealership and they lubricated the spring. Drove it home and noticed it was still squeaking even though they said the issue was resolved. I took it back in today and now the tech is saying he can't hear it or replicate the noise. Based on this thread, I can see this is probably going to be a debacle. :cautious:
 
#68 ·
Oh just wait, I’ve recorded several videos during different times of the day and temperature the squeak is most audible, per the master tech/shop foreman.

The service advisor and foreman both have listen to the recordings I’ve provided and agree the noise isn’t normal. For me it comes down to who do I trust not to ferk up my hatch trying to fix this issue. Since the dealership that replaced the bushing damaged plastic trim pieces and my leather seat, I’m very hesitant to let them even look at the vehicle again, unless it’s someone very specific the foreman trust.

I think we’re gonna have to just pull/share our data (trial and error) together and continue to report the issues to Toyota Corp until a TSB is developed unfortunately. It’s pissing annoying to listen to in the meantime...
 
#71 ·
This is exactly what it sounds like more me as well. It’s a creaking noise when you slowing press the clutch in and less audible when you release it.
 
#70 · (Edited)
My Japan built 2019 Hatch SE's clutch never ever squeaks at all, and I use my clutch a lot.

Perhaps you can't fix it by lubing the pedal lever bushings and spring because it's actually squeaking at the release fork pivots?

 
#72 ·
Perhaps you can't fix it by lubing the pedal lever bushings and spring because it's actually squeaking at the release fork pivots?
Hmm that’s a very good idea, I could have Toyota just replace the fork and pivot ball all together, I would just lubricate it myself but 1). Brand new car full warranty, 2. I just don’t have to time to ferk with it.