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Steering shaft binding

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#1 ·
well i've got 64k on my baby and finally hit her first real problem. Felt like no power steering so i checked out the front end and started to work my way back to the steering shaft, saw that the u-joint on the lower steering shaft was corroded and unfortunately exposed to all the elements of the road. It was binding for a couple weeks but finally it got so bad that i could barely turn with all my strength and there was no returnability. Ironically my buddys dads tacoma started having his steering shaft bind as well a couple days later than mine, his truck has 76k on it and he has never off-roaded. He brought his in and got it replaced for a little over 3 hundred. I sprayed it with some weezel piss for a couple days and it loosened up like new again. just wondering, has anyone else experienced this problem? it doesn't seem to be very common but i assume it should be with the joint being so exposed underneath. Tisk tisk Toyota for not covering this, whatever happened to the covers i used to see on older trucks that shielded this from the elements. If i got a new shaft i wouldn't worry about covering this part up knowing it can last up to 3/4's of a 100k but my intentions aren't to replace it so i'm going to protect it with some american ingenuity. All in all i'm curious as to who may have experienced this problem, and at about how many miles? Hopefullly this can be of some preventative maintenance for those who have lesser miles and maybe you can shield it as well. For the record i don't plan on leaving it with just the weezel piss i will needle grease it in the near future.
 
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resurrecting an old post, but i'm curious if any other tacoma owners have had a run in with this problem over some time now. it's become a preventative for me to spray it before every winter now so this won't occur anymore.
 
#5 ·
I'll have to go check... but,

1) Did you ever end up making a cover or boot for this?
2) WTF is weezel piss?

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#55 ·
Have a write up of the replacement



Hey there, I have to do the same job on my '06 Tac.
Am i able to just slide the yoke up and remove the lower shaft off the rack section? Or do I need to loosen or remove anything above the lower yoke where it attaches to the lower portion of the Intermediate shaft?
thanks in advance....
 
#10 ·
Steering binding

I had the same issue with my 05 Taco 4WD 105k miles. Sprayed it with PB for two days and it is smooth as can be now. Any thoughts on putting white lithium grease or regular grease on the joint in hopes it may keep the joint lubricated and protected?
 
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I had the same issue with my 05 Taco 4WD 105k miles. Sprayed it with PB for two days and it is smooth as can be now. Any thoughts on putting white lithium grease or regular grease on the joint in hopes it may keep the joint lubricated and protected?
Without opening the actual joint and adding a synthetic grease to the inside the issue will keep coming back.
 
#12 ·
I'm at 163K and I'm having stiff spots in my steering, here on the forum they say this may be my problem too. I never had this problem when I drove the truck all of the time, I recently bought a used Camry for work and let the truck sit, now I'm having this issue.
 
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#14 ·
Yes, it is exposed and you can only see it from underneith. The collapsable shaft has a protective boot but the U joint looks like something out of an erector set. Anything that flies up from under can hit right on it! Mine is going in tomorrow for a new shaft, PB Blaster and white lithium only got me so far, getting to scary to drive. Heck, and 164K I aint' complainin'.
 
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Crawl under the back of your driver's front wheel and crawl forward, it is on the bottom of the shaft and bolts to the steering rack. Shoot it with PB Blaster, if it fixes it, that's your problem. I'm sitting in an office at the dealership as I type this, getting mine replaced. Nice of them to give me an office ... LOL
 
#18 ·
A few good shots of penetrating oil and now things are fine. Works just like new. The problem with this "fix" is that PC Blaster is not a lubricant. I need to get some lithium grease into the u-joint somehow.

Since I just started having a problem hopefully I was able to eliminate any actual damage.

Now we'll see how long it lasts
 
#19 ·
2005 Taco 4x4 2.7L engine: I just turned 100K miles on very salty Ohio roads, and the steering U-joint started to bind a few days ago. This looks like a pretty bad design with the exposed U-joint and no good way to grease it up. I guess Toyota must consider a $330 shaft replacement a routine maintenance item.

I'm going to soak it with PB Blaster tonight to see what happens. I'm surprised at how quickly the steering went from perfectly fine to can barely turn it with all my might. This is a pretty bad safety issue. If anybody else gets in the truck, the power steering will help them crank the wheel to make a turn, but the return to center is gone, and the steering wheel must be manually cranked back to center after going around a corner. I can picture a nasty crash risk by over steering into a left hand turn at an intersetion and hitting traffic waiting at a red light on the other street.

I would recommend that if you are having this issue, posting on the NHTSA Office of Defect Investigation web site may be a good idea, as this is a potentially serious safety issue.

I had an old '83 AMC Alliance that had a similar steering link setup thtat had similar corrosion issues. There was a mandatory recall. The fix was for the dealer to grease it up good, then snap a plastic cover over the U-joint to keep the salt spray off of the joint. It was probably about a $2 fix + the dealer's labor FRU for the job.
 
#20 ·
Hey Rootstown, welcome to TN. And thanks for adding your experience to this problem too. You made a very good point on reporting the problem to NHTSA. I agree that this is starting to sound like a safety issue. On that note, just a reminder to anyone (HotRod) that has had to pay to replace it...keep your receipts. If a recall happens in the future, you do get reimbursed.
 
#21 ·
Hi 05Moose,

Thanks. The easiest way to find the "NHTSA ODI" web site is to put that into a seach engine. It was the top site on the list when I did. In fact, I did file a complaint. You need your VIN, and you have supply your personal contact info.

Normally, I am not a crybaby, but I was pretty shocked because the sudden onset of the problem with little warning. Normal steering one moment, and then bad binding the next. I think if my girlfriend borrowed the truck, she'd crash making a left hand turn. I almost did! I was caught off guard by the streeing not returning to center after making a turn.

At least one of the people that filed a complaint on the ODI site said that Toyota replaced the intermediate shaft and U-joint for $880, and that the new shaft had a boot, but the old shaft did not. Toyota must know that this is an issue.

I have a feeling that soaking the U-joint with PB Blaster is only going to be a short term fix and that the U-joint is going to get torn up with corrosion and sloppy.
 
#22 ·
Hi 05Moose,

Thanks. The easiest way to find the "NHTSA ODI" web site is to put that into a seach engine. It was the top site on the list when I did. In fact, I did file a complaint. You need your VIN, and you have supply your personal contact info.

Normally, I am not a crybaby, but I was pretty shocked because the sudden onset of the problem with little warning. Normal steering one moment, and then bad binding the next. I think if my girlfriend borrowed the truck, she'd crash making a left hand turn. I almost did! I was caught off guard by the streeing not returning to center after making a turn.

At least one of the people that filed a complaint on the ODI site said that Toyota replaced the intermediate shaft and U-joint for $880, and that the new shaft had a boot, but the old shaft did not. Toyota must know that this is an issue.

I have a feeling that soaking the U-joint with PB Blaster is only going to be a short term fix and that the U-joint is going to get torn up with corrosion and sloppy.
I sprayed the u-joint multiple times for a couple days with PB Blaster which quickly freed the joint up fine. Then I soaked it a few times over a couple days with spray lithium grease and have had no more problems. I got ahold of the intermediate shaft with a pair of channel locks and there is no play in the joint. With the exception of some periodoc shots of lithium on a regular basis I think mine is resolved. Also see my post #18.
 
#23 ·
Regarding the comment about having a boot, mine has a boot up on the collapsable part of the shaft, but not on the bottom where the U joint is. My son's GMC ZR2 has a snap on plastic cover that goes over the joint.

And YES, I saved my receipt.

Don't count on PB Blaster or Lithium grease lasting forever, at least it didn't for me. IMO, I wouldn't trust it as far as safety goes.
 
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Regarding the comment about having a boot, mine has a boot up on the collapsable part of the shaft, but not on the bottom where the U joint is. My son's GMC ZR2 has a snap on plastic cover that goes over the joint.

And YES, I saved my receipt.

Don't count on PB Blaster or Lithium grease lasting forever, at least it didn't for me. IMO, I wouldn't trust it as far as safety goes.
I wonder if this plastic boot would work on our shafts?
Anyone have a part # for this GM part?
My shaft started to have this issue about 4 weeks ago. Came on very quickly too.
I sprayed it with penetrating oil several times over a few days. This seems to have loosened it up. Next I'm going to dose it with chain drive lube from work. that stuff is magic on roller chains. (Chesterton 601 chain lube)
 
#26 ·
Rootston, I followed your lead and filed a NHTSA complaint too. I really think that this is a safety hazzard.

blckgnznstuff. I don't think the GM unit would work. If I remember correctly it fits over the steering box and then covers the joint, the ZR2 does not have a steering rack, but a steering box.
 
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#28 ·
I never did replace or cover this u joint on the steering shaft.... it's still turning smooth and the joint is still tight. I'm well past 100k now, and may be trading it in soon for something a little easier on gas for a daily commuter. I knew this would be a reoccurring problem amongst tacomas. Anyone would agree just by looking at the poor design and placement. Hope they do recall this issue and get things set straight to Toyota's loyal customers, those of whom have stuck through their bad rep. with their other recalls. You would think engineers would be trained to know better from other company's flaws and failed designs, but as is all things in production today, they're built to break, and not to last anymore. I'm glad we are paying 20k + to have a temporary vehicle that will be replaced by another p.o.s in 6 years anyways. When it comes to trucks, that is one area that should not be feeling the repercussions of poor quality, but so be it. Best of luck guys!
 
#29 ·
I soaked the U-joint the best I could with PB Blaster several times for a few days in a row. The joint is not in the easiest location to reach, and I think as much PB Blaster landed on the ground as landed on the U-joint. I soaked it from underneath the truck. It seems at least some of the Blaster hit the mark becasue the steering did loosen up and I'm not afraid to drive the Taco for now. I have a suspicion that one good snow storm and road salt application may well jam up the U-joint again.

The body on my Taco looks almost show room fresh, but the frame looks like a nightmare from a 1968 Chevy pickup with 300,000 miles on it. Whatever passes for undercoating seems to all but wash off and leave a surface as red as Mars with rust.
It is almost like Toytoa only tested 2000-2012 Tacos in a dry desert somewhere and completely missed what real world condidtions in the midwest United States can do in terms of corrosion.
 
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I soaked the U-joint the best I could with PB Blaster several times for a few days in a row. The joint is not in the easiest location to reach, and I think as much PB Blaster landed on the ground as landed on the U-joint. I soaked it from underneath the truck. It seems at least some of the Blaster hit the mark becasue the steering did loosen up and I'm not afraid to drive the Taco for now. I have a suspicion that one good snow storm and road salt application may well jam up the U-joint again.

The body on my Taco looks almost show room fresh, but the frame looks like a nightmare from a 1968 Chevy pickup with 300,000 miles on it. Whatever passes for undercoating seems to all but wash off and leave a surface as red as Mars with rust.
It is almost like Toytoa only tested 2000-2012 Tacos in a dry desert somewhere and completely missed what real world condidtions in the midwest United States can do in terms of corrosion.
It's been three months of driving since I sprayed the joint pretty heavy with Blaster and lithium grease and I have had no problems. I know I shouldn't have to do this but I plan to do it on a regular basis going forward and expect that will care for this problem. The frame on my 05 Tacoma looks all rusted also. Makes me mad because it looks bad.
 
#31 ·
Thread revival time.

I have an 07 Taco at about 62K. Just had this happen to me as well.

Shop lubed it up, so it feels fine now, but I suspect it will keep degrading as the lube wears off. Friggin pricey.....
 
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