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Stuck - What is snow mode?

7.9K views 12 replies 9 participants last post by  matteopascucci75  
#1 ·
I misjudged the depth of a snowdrift today and got hung up in the front. I tried snow mode to back up but didn't move. Thinking I needed four-wheel drive (I know it's really AWD, whatever that means) I tried both mud mode and rock mode. Both showed the four wheel icon on the display but the front wheels just spun. After some attempts at rocking and more spinning, the display said only two-wheel drive available see the dealer overheated. After the tow truck, the display no longer said to see the dealer.

If the front wheels are spinning, how do I get power to the rear wheels? Or is there something wrong with my Highlander?

Thanks for any light you can shed on my situation.
 
#5 ·
Sorry, I should have said I have a 2020 Highlander LE.

I thought that Mud mode turned off traction control.

Which motor could burn out?

I'll try to be clearer this time. I misjudged the snowdrift and drove into it so far I got hung up. I tried snow mode but the vehicle didn't move. I switched to mud mode, the four-wheel drive symbol appeared but still stuck. The front wheels were spinning freely. I would like to know if there is a setting that would send power to the back wheels, if they had traction, either just the back or balanced between front and back.

I don't really know for sure, but I think a real four wheel drive system would have let me lock things up so all four wheels turned equally.

Thanks for the help, in any case.
 
#6 ·
None of the snow, mud, etc modes which affect percentage power to the axles will turn off traction control.....must be deactivated manually.

Yes, a native RWD vehicle with a real transfer case is a true 4WD vehicle that will solidly lock all 4 wheels 1:1. Once locked these vehicles cannot make a turn on dry pavement without damage because in a turn each of the front wheels has a different turning radius. But that is not what is in the Highlander which is a native FWD vehicle with a PTO inside the front transacxle and a live rear axle when operating in AWD. At best depending upon the position of the mode switches the AWD transfers a percentage of the 295 h.p.from the V6 to the rear axle. Worse situation on a hybrid because the more powerful i4 and front axle electric motor(s) cannot provide an increase of assist if necesssary to the independent rear axle which is limited by the h.p. in its built-in electric motor.

There's a difference between spinning the wheels and rocking the vehicle between FWD and REV. And operating the TC will aggravate the situation by alternately braking wheels in a vain attempt to stabilize what it detects as a skid . Excessive rocking, excessive engine rpms, and switching gears while axles are still rotating will overheat and can burnout a transmission or the "transfer case" (PTO portion) that feeds the rear wheels. If lucky the overheat was detected and the ECU directed 100% power to the front axle or something in the PTO portion of the front transaxle or clutch assembly feeding the rear axle burned out. Once cooled and on dry pavement switch to the display showing portion of power to each wheel and try a fast acceleration takeoff to verify by the lit segments on each wheel that a portion of power is being transferred to he rear axle.
 
#7 ·
Thanks for all the information.

I knew that I don't have real 4WD and the vehicle is actually FWD with a bonus. I was surprised by how quickly the FWD only warning came on.

This is the first AWD vehicle I've owned and I will take your advice about how to check for damage.

I can say from a number of personal experiences that what I did would have had no particular effects on my other vehicles that had automatic transmissions, namely 2008 Sienna, 1979 Pontiac and 1969 Chevrolet Nova. I rocked them, particularly the Pontiac and Chev, out of a fair number of drifts. Everything else I've owned had a manual transmission.

I really never thought modern technology would be so fragile. Live and learn. Thanks again.
 
#8 ·
I just read everything. What Thomcad said makes scence. I also have 2020 Highlander LE. I was up north and gor stuck in snow. I was on a road for about 10 hours prior to that, so maybe that added some heat to the transfer case, but as I was trying to get out the rear axel kept on disconnecting. I shut the car down, let it cool for a bit and put some branches under the tires. Started it again, the rear shaft connected again. I switched to Rock and Dirt and was able to come put. But I wasn't sure why it was disconnecting the rear wheels when I needed them the most, and what Thomcad said makes cense.
 
#10 ·
Snow mode does a few things:
1) reduces the throttle input
2) Reduces power
3) More traction control

But... if you're on the stock tires when you got stuck... it's shame on you. Even turning off the traction control to rock/spin your tires out... the stock tires don't grip like a proper winter tire, or even a 3PMSF all-weather tire. When you're spinning the tires while rocking the car back and forth, you're packing the snow and heating up the surface to an warm ice-like condition, which the thin water layer makes it even more slippery, which the stock tires are inadequate for. One of the tricks for this is increasing the friction of the surface... something like kitty litter will help in a pinch

But what do I know? I live by the beach.