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Temperature Gauge Help

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#1 ·
1998 Toyota Camry 4-Cylinder. 151k miles. The temperature gauge was acting up. Going straight to the top when first starting the car after it had been sitting all night. I put in a new thermostat and burped the system well (had the car uphill, got a lot of bubbles out). After this process, the thermostat went to the middle. Took it for a spin, and it maintained the reading in the middle. I let it get cold and started it again, and it went back to the top. I then replaced the temperature coolant sensor. After reinstalling and turning it on, the temp read bottom cold. I took it for a spin, and it didn't move.
So I'm not sure what's going on. I'm hoping that the cluster is just messed up and I don't have a head gasket problem. No bubbling, smoking, oil isn't milky, coolant isn't leaking anywhere.
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
 
#2 ·
A few suggestions:

Check that the coolant reservoir cap has a tube on the underside of the cap that dips into the coolant. If missing, it’ll cause the cooling system to suck in air when it cools.

Look closely at the radiator for leaks. If there are any, the system won’t be pressurized which lowers the boiling point of the coolant.

Take the radiator cap to an auto parts store that can test it to see if it’s holding the pressure it should. If it’s not, get a new OEM cap. Aftermarket caps are a crapshoot.
 
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The way you are describing the gage swings almost sounds too fast for it to be the coolant temp. Can you put an OBDI reader on and check the temp there to rule out a cluster/gage problem? You might check resistivity of your old and new temp sensors too.
 
#8 ·
I had a radiator replacement done. I can tell you if you start seeing Pink crust forming on your radiator, it's most likely on its way out. I was advised against using sealants to fix the radiator. I was told it could possibly damage the heater core.

Check out RockAuto. Order an OEM radiator, typically Denso. For the hoses, thermostat, coolant, radiator cap, etc, I ordered them from a local Toyota dealership. Their parts department website had a sale. The cost of these parts are very similar to aftermarket, and I don't recommend aftermarket parts if OEM is typically the same price. Not sure exactly what the cost may be for your car, but for my Venza, it was very similar in terms of pricing.

I commented on this thread, and a lot of users helped me in terms of fixing my coolant/radiator issue. It started on page 3 and ends on page 7, but if you want to read through all of the details on why using a sealer may not be a good idea, it should also be on page 3 as well bit towards the bottom.

Best of luck with the radiator situation

Thread link: Coolant system air pocket?! | Page 3 | Toyota Nation Forum
 
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If you don't mind me asking. I read through your original post and had a quick question. After you put in a new coolant temp sensor you gauge didn't work if you put the old sensor back does the gauge seem to be working again?

I don't know if that's the definite problem I'm just making a suggestion but I'm assuming something wrong with the sensor at this point or maybe the cluster itself. Maybe you got a bad sensor. Stick with OEM Denso.

If you got all the air bubbles out there shouldn't be any more problems at this point. Do make sure your thermostat is at the 12 o'clock position.
 
#12 ·
I finally figured it out. This camry has two sensors that are connected to the temperature gauge. I replaced the coolant sensor gauge but not the other. After further inspection, the connector was cracked and connecting on and off. After replacing it, everything works as it should. Thanks for all your help!
 
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This camry has two sensors that are connected to the temperature gauge. I replaced the coolant sensor gauge but not the other. After further inspection, the connector was cracked and connecting on and off. After replacing it, everything works as it should.
Your 5SFE Camry has only one sensor (sender) connected to the instrument cluster's temperature gauge. This sensor (sender) should have a single yellow/green wire at the connector. The service manual calls this sensor the "Water Temp. Sender." A second coolant temperature sensor sends a signal to the engine computer. It has two wires at its connector: One green/black and one brown. See Strega315's post #4 at https://www.toyotanation.com/threads/what-scanner-tool-will-show-engine-temp.1729949/.

The connectors and wiring at the locations of these two sensors do tend to get beat up. Good job figuring this out.
 
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The underhood plastic connectors on 27-year-old Toyotas are quite brittle, and tend to break when you try to remove them. Replacement plugs are available at most auto parts stores and at Amazon/Rockauto. Take a picture of the end of the plug and compare it to pictures online. They are all different shapes for different uses.