[75cruiser]

I was able to to buy mine for $500 below invoice, however, whats more important is the OTD price(out the door). When I finalized with the dealer the day of my purchase, I personally delivered him the check in the amount of the 500 below invoice. It was at this point they began to squirm, this is when they tried to add all the additional fee's which they said is standard in every sale. I told them they could take the check in the amount agreed or I'll walk way now...after they tried feverishly to convince me that these fee's had to be charged. I refused to budge and was willing to walk, they realized they had to meet my terms or lose the sale. Invoice price is important but the OTD is where you need to end up.

So the dealer paid the taxes, MV fees and waived any doc fee . You should go to jail for stealing from that dealership:lol: It must of been towards the end of the month for them to do that deal.

 

[flyman767]

Read the post again... I never said the the doc fee or the MV fee was free! What I said is I refused to pay $250.00 for something that costs the dealership significantly less. Tags and title are not normally included in the OTD because these are tangible costs incurred by the dealership. The taxes are never included in the OTD price because taxes are non-negotiable. I've yet to see any deal where the dealer pays the sales tax and the purchase is made below invoice? If they did, they wouldn't be in business very long. I don't have a problem with any dealership making a profit, but it's when you get down to the final details of the transaction and they try to nickel and dime you to death that infuriates me.

So the dealer paid the taxes, MV fees and waived any doc fee . You should go to jail for stealing from that dealership:lol: It must of been towards the end of the month for them to do that deal.

 

[jtrovato]

sometimes i think people have no idea what they really paid... i doubt you paid 1000 under invoice...not unless you were raped on your trade

I didn't trade anything in. That was the sticker price and that's what I paid. Find out what the invoice is for yourself and then see the difference if you'd like. I did the research when I bought the truck.

Now I did know someone at the dealer, a co-worker's wife works in the public relations department for the dealer so she got me a great deal. But it just goes to show you that some dealers will actually cut you a good deal.

 

[75cruiser]

Read the post again... I never said the the doc fee or the MV fee was free! What I said is I refused to pay $250.00 for something that costs the dealership significantly less. Tags and title are not normally included in the OTD because these are tangible costs incurred by the dealership. The taxes are never included in the OTD price because taxes are non-negotiable. I've yet to see any deal where the dealer pays the sales tax and the purchase is made below invoice? If they did, they wouldn't be in business very long. I don't have a problem with any dealership making a profit, but it's when you get down to the final details of the transaction and they try to nickel and dime you to death that infuriates me.

FYI. Out of the door price includes tax, mv (estimated), and dealer fees. Hence it is what you have paid total for everything once you are out of the door and driving home. Intangible as it might be it is still a cost and it is still part of the total price you have paid once you leave in your vehicle.
Some dealers will guesstimate the MV fees as they are not always sure the exact cost. It is illegal for them to make profit from MV and you will (or should) get a check back for the difference. You can see the cost of the MV on the registration.

 

[UtahTaco]

I know its a different state but, in Utah this week I bought an '07 Taco Doublecab SB for $29,000 plus taxes and licensing which was another $2,100. So it was $31,100 OTD.

My options were:
Offroad package
Towing package
Curtain Airbags
VSC

I'm not sure if it was a great deal but it was the best I could do. Good luck.

 

[Fluxaholic]

UtahTaco, it's certainly not the best deal I've heard of on here, but what most people like to ignore is that every state, region, and dealer is different. You'll pay more on average for the same truck in different places. Also, the VSC is rare on these trucks and in high demand. The dealers know this and probably look for a little more profit.

 

[UtahTaco]

UtahTaco, it's certainly not the best deal I've heard of on here, but what most people like to ignore is that every state, region, and dealer is different. You'll pay more on average for the same truck in different places. Also, the VSC is rare on these trucks and in high demand. The dealers know this and probably look for a little more profit.

That's what I basically thought. The dealer had to special order it so it wasn't as if they were dying to get rid of an on hand truck. But I'm happy with price and I did spend a month talking to dealers in Utah, Idaho, Colorado before ordering.

 

[75cruiser]

That's what I basically thought. The dealer had to special order it so it wasn't as if they were dying to get rid of an on hand truck. But I'm happy with price and I did spend a month talking to dealers in Utah, Idaho, Colorado before ordering.

As long as you are happy with the truck and they did give you some kind of a dicount you should have no regrets.

 

[Fluxaholic]

That's what I basically thought. The dealer had to special order it so it wasn't as if they were dying to get rid of an on hand truck. But I'm happy with price and I did spend a month talking to dealers in Utah, Idaho, Colorado before ordering.

The good thing is that you got exactly what you wanted for a price you're happy with. It's not a bad price at all, especially considering the extra options you got. I've just seen some crazy low prices reported on here, mostly by CA residents.

 

[skidmike]

I just do some research

I go online, do some research about the market value of the car I want to buy, get a reasonably objective assessment of the trade-in value of my car and try to drive toward that with a dealer. I find that I'm usually at or very close to those 2 numbers and I consider that a fair deal - not great for me, but not something where i'm leaving alot of money on the table for the dealer, either. Sometimes, I do better and sometimes not - it mostly depends on the popularity of the car I'm seeking.

That's really only the first battle, though - the "Finance" guy is now driving lots of hard bargains to boot, what with trying to sell add-on warranties, financing, dealer's fees for registering the car, etc. I just disallow as much of that as I can, sign a waiver that says I'm responsible for registration and any applicable taxes, then go work it out with the MVD. It's usually hundreds cheaper that way.

-- mike

 

[75cruiser]

I go online, do some research about the market value of the car I want to buy, get a reasonably objective assessment of the trade-in value of my car and try to drive toward that with a dealer. I find that I'm usually at or very close to those 2 numbers and I consider that a fair deal - not great for me, but not something where i'm leaving alot of money on the table for the dealer, either. Sometimes, I do better and sometimes not - it mostly depends on the popularity of the car I'm seeking.

That's really only the first battle, though - the "Finance" guy is now driving lots of hard bargains to boot, what with trying to sell add-on warranties, financing, dealer's fees for registering the car, etc. I just disallow as much of that as I can, sign a waiver that says I'm responsible for registration and any applicable taxes, then go work it out with the MVD. It's usually hundreds cheaper that way.

-- mike

Take the GAP Insurance. It is the one thing worth buying from the finance office. Certain Auto Insurance companies will provide it to you automaticly if you buy a new vehicle or provide it at a cheaper rate. Check with them to see. Same with warranties. I have GEICO and they provide a 7 year 100K bumper to bumper warranty for $70 for a policy period. They will match factory coverage for the stated time or mileage:thumbup:

 

[Mark03TACO]

Im starting to believe that the dealer invoice is about 3 grand lower than the sticker and thats where they have plenty of room to barter and still make money. 07 AC sports are 29500 here in spokane and i talked to a dealer in vancouver that actually said he would let one go for 27500 which astounded me cause thats the first time ive heard a price over the phone, different than the sticker that is.

 

[MINI2NUT]

Being that a Toyota dealership sits on practically every corner, competition is tight for new car buyers here in So Cal. Don't like the price? Drive 8 miles to the next dealer. I think we get better car deals because of it. I only paid $21,995 for a brand new 2006 Tacoma DC with the TRD Off-Road package. That was $4,000 under the MSRP. A local dealer was advertising brand new 2WD 2007 Tacoma Double Cabs for only $20,997 a couple of weeks ago. Add roughly 10% for sales tax and tags and that's only $23,000 out the door!!!

 

[Mark03TACO]

Well ive decided to get a new Tacoma. Im trading in my supercharged 03 DC with 18K miles for a 07 Radiant Red AC TRD sport. What can i expect from the Stealer? Should i bring my own KY:lol: Access cab sports start at $29200 here in spokane. Now it seems to me, that price is about 2k over the dealer invoice. If there gonna want that 29200 then i should demand 24K for mine right?

Update.....Well the local stealer said he would sell me the truck at 100 over invoice, which is great:thumbup: but he only wants to give me 20k for my trade:thumbdown He's not giving me shit for the SC! F that. Im going down there tomorrow so they can take a closer look at my rig. But im gonna stand firm with wanting 22k or a 5k diff between the two. I cant see them going for it but thats ok ill just walk . Im standing firm cause I just payed 24k for it in Dec. :ugh3:

 

[Mark03TACO]

Went to the Dealer again today and they will only go 20K for my trade , which is 1800 over KBB not counting the Supercharger. Looks like i may try selling it Privately. 20K for an 03 SC DC TRD offroad with 18K miles on it just doesnt float my boat. Anybody interested?

 

[cddallara]

Went to the Dealer again today and they will only go 20K for my trade , which is 1800 over KBB not counting the Supercharger. Looks like i may try selling it Privately. 20K for an 03 SC DC TRD offroad with 18K miles on it just doesnt float my boat. Anybody interested?

IMO, you'll get more from a private party regarding the SC, but I'd be leary of it...like have you been beating the piss out of it, etc...To me a SC is something I'd like to put on/have installed, just for personal comfort. Good luck!

 

[Mark03TACO]

IMO, you'll get more from a private party regarding the SC, but I'd be leary of it...like have you been beating the piss out of it, etc...To me a SC is something I'd like to put on/have installed, just for personal comfort. Good luck!

Just got back from dealer again. After an hour they offered me the same deal as the day before..20k. I said 21k and ill sign right now and started to leave and he stopped me saying he had an idea, so after talking some more with the manager he offered $200 more and i said cya. Yes, it is possible to walk out on the Stealer. Yea i think im gonna try to sell it on craigslist to start with and no it hasnt been beat the piss out of, It has 18 thousand miles on it! Its still got the new car smell. At least this dealer went as low as 100 over invoice. The other dealer i visited said 1500 over invoice:lol: Piss off salesman.

 

[xedge]

I'm sorry, but that's not a really good price. I got my 06 DC 4x4 TRD Off Road with everything except the JBL system for $25,600 including all fees, but no taxes. It was $26,880 with sales tax. The sticker on the truck was $30,030.00. My price was about $1k under invoice.

THAT is an excellent deal. Congrats fellow New Englander :thumbup: :clap:


For Mark03Taco...good luck with selling the old and buying the new :thumbup:

 

[viet2100]

Best thing I ever did was to not even mention my trade until prior the end of the sale. They get realllllly pissed off lol, but better for you.

 

[Mark03TACO]

Best thing I ever did was to not even mention my trade until prior the end of the sale. They get realllllly pissed off lol, but better for you.

Even better yet, dont mention to them that your trade has a salvage title.:lol: