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TRD Rear Sway Bars--the good and the bad

8.2K views 39 replies 20 participants last post by  2wickedtoyz  
#1 ·
Ok after doing some research the first mod I will maek to my camry will probably be a RSB.

As far as I can tell there are two choices: Whiteline and TRD.

Whiteline runs about $109, TRD runs about $150 but is adjustable.

From pics I see the TRD has 2 holes in each end. So I assume the way you adjust it is by reattaching it to the holes that are farther from the end for "race."

Now I am thinking the RSB will even out the handling a bit (Reduce understeer). But Eventually I can see myself gettign a Front sway bar, which would skew the car more towards understeer gain.

Which makes me think that the TRD bar woud be the most useful. I would buy it, install it in the street setting, and drive it around. Then when I buy the FSB (probably from whiteline) I would set the RSB to race to try to keep the balance less on the understeer side,

Does this make sense? The TRD is like having 2 sway bars in one. You can simply adjust it if you need more stiffness in the rear, for example when you install a thicker front sway bar.
 
#3 ·
that makes sense. However, keep in mind the WL RSB is thicker to begin with. I don't know how much stiffer the TRD RSB on track setting would be compared to the thicker WL RSB.

I went with both WL FSB and RSB at once and so I can't tell how each bar affected the ride independantly. Eitherway, you really can't go wrong. If you choose to WL get both at the same time and save yourself shipping costs ;)
 
#5 ·
Phi said:
that makes sense. However, keep in mind the WL RSB is thicker to begin with. I don't know how much stiffer the TRD RSB on track setting would be compared to the thicker WL RSB.

I went with both WL FSB and RSB at once and so I can't tell how each bar affected the ride independantly. Eitherway, you really can't go wrong. If you choose to WL get both at the same time and save yourself shipping costs ;)

Hi ya bud, so by having both bars how does it feel compare to no bar at all? I'm still debating whether to get both TRD FSB and RSB from the Solara or WL. Even with my TRD setup and 17" wheels in the summer I still feel quite a bit of body roll in the corner, maybe the bars would help.
 
#6 ·
I have the Whiteline bars in front and back it’s pretty stiff, but I like the extra stability especially on the freeway. It’s like driving a brick LOL. I did the rear, and then about 6 months later I did the front. The biggest change I noticed with the front was more concise steering, and a harsher ride.
 
#8 ·
T2000 said:
Hi ya bud, so by having both bars how does it feel compare to no bar at all? I'm still debating whether to get both TRD FSB and RSB from the Solara or WL. Even with my TRD setup and 17" wheels in the summer I still feel quite a bit of body roll in the corner, maybe the bars would help.
Hey man. Nice to see you pop in once in a while :cool:

It's kinda hard for me to give you a comparison report since I got EVERYTHING installed at once (Tokico struts, Eibach springs, FSB, RSB and strut brace). All I can say is my car stays planted and goes pretty much where I want it to. There's obviously more understeer than I'd like...heck, it's FF :rolleyes: With that said, I love how my car handles overall. The only ppl that complain about a harsh ride are my parents and brother. They can go screw themselves since it's my car and I'm giving them a free ride ;)
 
#9 · (Edited)
T2000 said:
Do you have suspension upgrade or just stock? If you experience harsher ride with stock suspension because of the front bar, with my stiffer suspension already I guess this would cut more into the comfort level.
I already had my Intrax / KYB setup before I got the bars. Also, I echo Phi sentiments about the control. Some people complain about the ride, but it's my car and my ride alone 95% of the time. I drive about 100 miles a day, so it's not some horrible issue, at least for me. :lol:
 
#11 ·
Whiteline makes caster bushings for the SXV20 chassis? Or is there a compatible set that are listed for another chassis? If so can I get a link, to order them? I think they would be a nice compliment to the bars! Thx Man.
 
#13 ·
I've heard the Whiteline bar's stiffness is in between the two settings of the TRD bar. Street seems to be what most people are using, Track has caused some people issues in emergency manuevers (oversteer). I have the Whitelines F&R, along with the Eibach springs and KYB GR2s, which were all put on at the same time. I have very little body roll, and the car is very neutral (i.e. doesn't have a tendency to oversteer or understeer). Remember, I've got the mightly 4cyl, so the car's not as heavy in the front to begin with (compared to the V6).

IMHO, if the adjustability is important to you, go with the TRD bar. Currently, the only option for an aftermarket front bar is Whiteline.

HTH,

DJ
 
#14 ·
TadS said:
Whiteline makes caster bushings for the SXV20 chassis? Or is there a compatible set that are listed for another chassis? If so can I get a link, to order them? I think they would be a nice compliment to the bars! Thx Man.
Don't know if it'll fit SXV20, but you can email them and ask for all the information.
 
#15 · (Edited)
Phi said:
The only ppl that complain about a harsh ride are my parents and brother. They can go screw themselves since it's my car and I'm giving them a free ride ;)

Sounds familiar. :rolleyes: Why is your car so loud? *bitch*bitch*bitch*bitch*bitch*bitch*bitch*



My response - Why don't you stfu and hold on? :lol:


EDIT: (Not about to get busted for whoring again, so I merged my posts...)

EKam said:
Whoa wait until you get tires with sidewalls that are actually STIFF *cough* Yokohama ES100 *cough* and the whiteline caster bushings.

Then you'll know what's stiff in a Camry.
Thats gotta feel SICK when you are ripping it up on the track tho, huh? :thumbup:



Lumberg said:
Looks liek I have sparked a good discussion but with no real resolution.

I'm going to go with the TRD in the back on street setting at first and let y'al know how it goes.

This is going to be with stock suspension BTW.
On a Gen 3 Camry? If so, what motor? :thumbup:
 
#16 ·
Lumberg said:
Looks liek I have sparked a good discussion but with no real resolution.

I'm going to go with the TRD in the back on street setting at first and let y'al know how it goes.

This is going to be with stock suspension BTW.
In response to your original question, I think your idea of starting with TRD RSB on Street and then going to FSB and TRACK setting later is a good one. I have tried several different combinations of FSB and RSB, and am currently using Whiteline FSB and TRD RSB on TRACK setting. My set-up gives me almost zero body roll, along with an Eibach/Tokico suspension combination. The FSB also seems to give quicker steering response. The downsides are that the ride quality is compromised somewhat (especially when only one side of the car hits a bump) and you still get pretty substantial understeer. Determining the best set-up will be based on whether your priority is reducing understeer or keeping your car firmly planted on curves.
 
#17 ·
Does anyone have a link to sites with TRD RSB information? The only one i knew about was the Whiteline off www.ctmotorsport.com

I autocross my car and am now interested in the TRD based on it's adjustability, and I'm looking for my specs.

Also, anyone that has the TRD one can help me out with this... How hard is it to switch settings? Can it be done easily at the course?
 
#20 ·
Wow great link TadS.

Looks like for a daily driver with no other mods, the TRD RSB road setting is almost worthless, and the race setting induces bad oversteer.

also sounds like a FSb will tilt the balance back to understeer wven with a RSB on race setting.

The one guys recommends agains putting a FSB on a car that is for daily driving, which is what mine is.

I think I may re-think my plan and just put a Whiltelin RSB In, and when the struts wear out to put in some of those aftermarket shocks (KYB or something) and leave it at that.

I live in an area with several snowstorms a year and pretty bumpy roads so lowering is simply not an option. I like to get up and be abel to drive in 4" of snow, which I know a stick Camry can do!
 
#26 ·
Lumberg said:
cdssolara--so you do notice an improvement with the TRD bar on street setting? cos the guys on solaraguy did not.

also isn't Gen3 the one with the already thick FSB?
I've never had only the TRD RSB on Street on my car. However, I rode in another Solara with that set-up, along with Eibach springs and Tokico struts, and I could notice that the back end was more planted to the road. It wasn't a huge difference, but it was a noticeable improvement over stock.