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DIY: GEN 3 and 4 Fuel tank removal with pics!

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Greetings! Didn't see this one on the DIY section so I figured I would take pics while changing out fuel tanks. Not really a bad job - but just like anything else, there can be unforseen obstacles to overcome like snapping off one of the strap bolts!

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First and foremost - try to drain whatever fuel is left inside the tank - it will make life much easier! I thought since I had a hole in mine that all the gas was gone, but it turns out there was between 2 -3 gallons left which made for a dangerous and *stinky* swap! I put down an old towel to try to contain the spill, which is better than letting the gas run all over the pavement. Should you have a leaky tank - this is common sense but I'll say it anyway - keep all sources of ignition away from the gas! Try to use non-sparking tools if possible and make an extra effort to watch metal-on-metal contact when removing bolts, nuts, etc.

Once you have as much gas as possible removed it's time to take out the backseat and disconnect the supply line. Press the tab on the 5-pronged plug (mine is a 1996 Gen3, others may be similar) and remove it - easy...

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Next remove the fuel supply line; the large nut is 19mm and the small one is 14mm I believe. I removed the small line *on the right* but it turns out you don't have to - it runs into the top of the tank (maybe it's a return line?)

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It never hurts to plug the line so that fuel doesn't go everywhere. I loathe nothing more than to walk into the house smelling like gasoline - maybe when I was 16 or 17 it was cool - but now I feggin' hate it! After this is done it's time to secure the car on jackstands and get down to the meat and potatoes of the job.

First task under the car is to unhinge the exhaust pipe - I have an aftermarket exhuast system (whose workmanship sucks by the way - performance is good, though). I simply cut a couple of the rubber biscuits and forced the others to come off - I need a new exhaust workup anyway...Once you get the pipe out of the way push it over to the passenger's side - be careful and don't damage an oxygen sensor or anything like that!

Next is to remove the filler neck-to-tank rubber hose and vent tube. Mine is 15 years old this year - don't expect the rubber to be very compliant and supple after 319000 miles cause it won't be! It may take some choice words and threats of violence, but it will eventually come loose. Worst case scenario you'll have to go to the parts store and either buy an OEM replacement or simply match the inside diameter of the old hose to a new piece and cut to length - again, nothing really very complicated here...

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After these have been wrestled off (mine were a bitch lemme tell ya!), next step is to remove the vent line (?) from the rear center part of the tank on top - piece of cake. Then comes the brake line on the front driver's side of the tank. Access the two 10mm nuts holding the line on underneath the rear passenger door (for a Coupe it's just forward of the rear driver's side tire)

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Once you get the two 10mm nuts off it should hang like this: Notice the puddle of aromatic hydrocarbons which made this job *SO MUCH* fun!

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There is one more line to remove while you are at that part of the car - it runs almost parallel with the brake line just removed:

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Now comes the most ardurous part of the job: Removing the fuel tank straps. You will want to place something under the tank or wedge a long shaft between the rear suspension components and the tank so it won't come tumbling down on your head! These two 14mm bolts *WILL BE RUSTY* so use PB Blaster or at least WD-40 first. That's why one of mine snapped off...radio edit...if you live in the Salt or Rust Belt God help you...this is the biggest bitch of the removal. If you break one, you will have to drill and tap a new hole or somehow extract the old bolt - either way, preparation is the best weapon for these bolts. Provided they come out without any trouble, you are then ready to drop the tank:
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Pull the tank towards the rear of the vehicle and check your work - there shouldn't be any remaining lines to disconnect but sometimes the straps will stick to the tank since they have some kind of rubber coating. Use a screwdriver and pry between the tank and the strap if this happens

If you are replacing tanks it's best to set both tanks next to each other and swap out hardware, pump, and lines while it's easiest to access everything.

Hope this helps and good luck :chug:
 
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UPDATE:

Got the new tank in today and snapped some pix of the old tank - still at a loss at why it developed a hole...

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You can see the bulge near the center of the tank exactly where the exhaust pipe runs. It bent the heat shield as well...

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The areas of bare metal are where the gasoline dissolved the coating

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Can't tell you why it happened - but there it is! This is the first major problem I have encountered while owning this car. I started driving it with 241K miles on the clock - currently it registers 319K. Have owned and slowly modded the car over the past 3 years - still can't complain!
 
#4 ·
Question

Hello, new to the forums.

I have a 95 Toyota Camry LE 2.2 4cyl, and I'm considering replacing the gas tank. Thank you for this DIY, but were there any seals or hardware that had to be purchased separately with the new gas tank? All that I find show they come "without seals and filler neck." I know what the neck is, but what seals were involved? The tank is rated at 18gl for this model, but I seem to always fill up only to 15.6. Never made much sense, so wondering if I should just do this and check everything else in the process. Thanks again!
 
#6 ·
Hello, new to the forums.

I have a 95 Toyota Camry LE 2.2 4cyl, and I'm considering replacing the gas tank. Thank you for this DIY, but were there any seals or hardware that had to be purchased separately with the new gas tank? All that I find show they come "without seals and filler neck." I know what the neck is, but what seals were involved? The tank is rated at 18gl for this model, but I seem to always fill up only to 15.6. Never made much sense, so wondering if I should just do this and check everything else in the process. Thanks again!
Mine rarely takes more than 16 gallons to fill. I suspect Toyota designed the gas gauge system that way on purpose, because it's not good for the fuel pump to run with too little fuel in the tank. The fuel actually cools the pump.

Just curious, why are you considering replacing it? Rusty?

As for the seals, I believe there's a gasket for the fuel pump access hatch. Not sure if there are more, don't think so.
 
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This exact thing happened on my Corolla. What I ran into is that no matter how tight I got the hose clamp on to the remaining bit of vent line (no easy task without breaking it completely off), there was always a dribble because the end of the lines were flared out and now there was just straight line. It never sealed 100%, and it's not like I could just silicone it - I think the gas would just eat it.

What do you do when this happens to you, Perkins?
 
#8 ·
Another place to look for leaks is at the fuel injectors. At the top where they insert into the fuel rail, and at the bottom where they insert into the intake manifold. There are O-rings at both ends that can leak.
 
#28 ·
I replaced the gas tank on my 96 camry wagon 3.0. it not difficult to remove or replace. I bought the tank from A1 Auto about 4 months ago. It came with tank straps ,sending unit gasket and bolts. I replaced sending unit pump and strainer. But ever since I installed the tank I have a humming sound coming from tank. Think the pump was defective. Went and exchanged the pump and still the humming noise. I’ll go for a drive and come back, park For about half hour. Come back and start car you can hear humming sound. Cane you let me know if you have any problems with yours. Also where are you going to buy gas tank. Would really appreciate it, thank and good luck.
 
#11 · (Edited)
I have a 1993 Camry. The pins that slip into the ends of the straps are essentially welded to the straps due to years of corrosion. This means that the strap can't be removed from its housing. Toyota apparently designed it so that the pin has to be slipped out of the strap before the strap can be removed. Anyone have this problem and a solution?
 
#13 · (Edited)
I ended up sawing off the pin using a dremel tool with a reinforced cutoff wheel (dremel #426). It's not safe to do with the fuel tank still attached. It's best to remove the fuel tank and place it in another location and ventilate the work area with one or more fans before doing any cutting. This also provides plenty of room to access the strap-pin-housing which is obstructed by the tank.

The 14 mm hex-cap bolts that secure the other ends of the straps to the unibody near the rear of the tank came off easily after using PB Blaster and an electric impact wrench. They are known to snap sometimes.

Both straps were rusted. The one on the passenger side had snapped.
 
#16 · (Edited)
Adding some corrosion protection on the fill and vent nipples that are on the rear of the tank would be useful. Perhaps a few coats of engine black or a coat of rubber undercoating. Water drains down the hoses to the nipples and corrodes them. Some of the aftermarket tanks are not galvanized and not painted. They will likely have a short life in a snow-belt or ocean coast area.

I put a few coats of rustoleum paint on a new replacement fuel filler pipe for my Camry which had a single thin cheap coating of paint. It seems to have extended the life in a snow-belt area. That was eight years ago. There is some rust on it now but not thick.
 
#19 ·
Interesting pic of the top half of the tank. What's all the tubing connected together?... Are those all part of the air venting system? I had no idea that stuff was in there.

Photos that I took of the inside of the OEM fuel tank of a 1993 Camry after I cut the tank into upper and lower halves. It was remarkably clean inside. This was the original tank that was on the car and was 23 years old when I removed it.

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#18 ·
The vent nipple outside the tank that goes to the fuel fill assembly extends straight into the tank for a couple inches and then turns 90 degrees. For those who have had the vent nipple corrode and fall off, it might be possible make a new nipple by inserting a metal or plastic tube inside the remaining vent tube into the tank an inch or two. A fuel-resistant epoxy might work to seal it. The outside end of the new tube would need to have a bubble flare or barb on it so that it completely seals to the hose that goes to the fuel fuller pipe. One has to be careful to not generate any sparks that could cause an explosion. It's probably better to simply replace the fuel tank.

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#24 ·
The vent nipple outside the tank that goes to the fuel fill assembly extends straight into the tank for a couple inches and then turns 90 degrees. For those who have had the vent nipple corrode and fall off, it might be possible make a new nipple by inserting a metal or plastic tube inside the remaining vent tube into the tank an inch or two. A fuel-resistant epoxy might work to seal it. The outside end of the new tube would need to have a bubble flare or barb on it so that it completely seals to the hose that goes to the fuel fuller pipe. One has to be careful to not generate any sparks that could cause an explosion. It's probably better to simply replace the fuel tank.

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Question, on third pic,the plastic cover inside tank, do all after market tank have this? I bought mine from a1 Auto
 
#22 ·
Photo of the three vent pickups. The lines are coupled to one another and exit the top of the tank which connects to the charcoal canister.

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Nixie's tubes (bad joke)

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#23 · (Edited)
Photo of original tank. The vent nipple at the rear of the tank was broken off due to rust.

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Photo of top of tank. There was a patch of rust and small hole about an 1/8th inch DIA (red arrow) due to the top of the tank rubbing on a ball of excess undercoating on the unibody. I removed the excess undercoating so it wouldn't damage the new tank The vapor recovery line (green arrow) that runs along the top of the tank was corroded all the way through in a couple locations and was leaking. I replaced it with quarter-inch stainless steel tube.

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#27 ·
Hi

I have a fuel leak on my 1999 Camry. Near rear wheel driver side. Seems that it might be the main fuel line from the pump, but I opened the cover under rear seat and everything seemed very dry. So Im afraid it is the tank.

I don't have access to car lift or tools at the moment, trying to investigate the potential leak source more accurately with snake camera one day. I've heard about cases that the tank rubs against the car body at the top somewhere and causes the leak 😩.

This is very nice DIY but the fuel lines are different in gen4 vs gen3. E.g. there is only the main fuel line visible at the top of the tank under rear seat. So the evaporation lines (and return line, does this even exist?) are located differently. Anyone has pics or info for gen4 that how does the procedure differ?

(And no, it its not the most common filler neck issue)