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$1.2 billion class action against GM in Canada

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#1 ·
Have you ever heard of this happening? This is nuts....

General Motors Class Action Pursued in Canada
http://www.halifaxlive.com/content/view/685/2/

Lawyers today announced the commencement of a $1.2 billion class action against General Motors of Canada Limited and General Motors Corporation. The plaintiff's claim is that General Motors designed, marketed, tested and manufactured, in the 1995-2003 model years, various Buick, Chevrolet, Oldsmobile and Pontiac motor vehicles with a 3.1, 3.4, 3.8 or 4.3 litre engine, using a defective intake manifold gasket. The vehicles include those listed below:

-1995-1997 Buick Riviera
-1995-1998/2000-2003 Buick LeSabre
-1995-1998/2000-2003 Buick Park Avenue
-1996-1998/2000-2003 Buick Regal
-2000-2003 Buick Century
-2002-2002 Buick Rendezvous
-1996/1998-2001 Chevrolet Lumina
-1998-2003 Chevrolet Monte Carlo
-1997-2003 Chevrolet Venture
-1999-2003 Chevrolet Malibu
-2000-2003 Chevrolet Impala
-1995-1998 Oldsmobile Ninety Eight
-1995-1998 Oldsmobile Eighty Eight
-1998 Oldsmobile Intrigue
-1996-2003 Oldsmobile Silhouette
-1999 Oldsmobile Cutlass
-1999-2003 Oldsmobile Alero
-1995-1998/2000-2003 Pontiac Bonneville
-1997-1998/2000-2003 Pontiac Grand Prix
-1996-1999 Pontiac Trans Sport
-1999-2003 Pontiac Grand Am
-1999-2003 Pontiac Montana
-2001-2003 Pontiac Aztec

Colin P. Stevenson, a partner with the law firm Stevensons LLP, in Toronto, Ontario, said, "The claim here is based on problems that have surfaced right across North America arising from the fact that General Motors used nylon or other plastics in the manufacture of the IMG. The plastic degrades prematurely causing coolant to leak into the engine. The trouble is the coolant can cause serious problems once it escapes. In some cases the engines overheat and seize completely. The vehicles often need complete engine replacements at considerable expense to the owners."

The statement of claim notes that General Motors introduced a new gasket in 2004 but General Motors still refuses to acknowledge the general defect in the pre-existing gaskets.

A national class is being sought in this class action. There is a coalition of lawyers working across the country to ensure Canadian owners or lessees of these vehicles are treated fairly. Kirk M. Baert of Koskie Minsky LLP stated, "The national team of lawyers is committed to ensuring the best possible result for the class."

It is too early at this stage to quantify the claims of the potential class members but it is anticipated that the amount is very significant. It is estimated that there are 400,000 vehicles in the class in Canada. An average claim of $3,000 makes the claim worth $1,200,000,000. Any Canadians concerned about their GM vehicle are encouraged to visit www.classproceedings.ca, and fill out and remit the questionnaire.
 
#3 ·
If a new car built by my company leaves Chicago traveling west at 60 miles per hour, and the rear differential locks up, and the car crashes and burns with everyone trapped inside, does my company initiate a recall?

You take the population of vehicles in the field (A) and multiply it by the probable rate of failure (B), then multiply the result by the average cost of an out-of-court settlement (C).

A times B times C equals X. This is what it will cost if we don't initiate a recall.

If X is greater than the cost of a recall, we recall the cars and no one gets hurt.

If X is less than the cost of a recall, then we don't recall.
***Yawn***
 
#7 ·
Silver Streak said:
-1995-1998/2000-2003 Pontiac Bonneville
-1997-1998/2000-2003 Pontiac Grand Prix
That's silly, the 1999 models have the same L36 (NA) motor with the same plastic upper intake manifold, and aren't included in the lawsuit. Not saying that's a good thing, but at least the lawsuit should be accurate.
 
#12 ·
nyscene911 said:
I knew of the problem being pretty prevalent with the 3.1 and 3.4. The 3.8 and 4.3 surprise me though. Totally unrelated to the 60* engines listed before. And both have always been considered to be reliable engines...
The 3800 is still rather reliable, just those select years (naturally aspirated models) have some issues with the upper intake manifold.

Supercharged models have that nice blower wedged between the "V" instead of a plastic upper manifold.

I'm also a believer that these problems are not as major as some make them out to be. If you've lost your lower intake gaskets, but fail to maintain your car (read: check fluid levels on a regular basis), I'll let out a little chuckle when your motor kills itself a slow death. Same goes for the Toyota 1MZ-FE V6 motors, their public sludge issues are mainly from owners who don't change their oil often enough - and then cry about it.